UPDATE: Gay suicide toll rises with death of New West man
SUICIDE / Family says they loved him unconditionally
Jeff Lawrence / Vancouver / Thursday, October 14, 2010
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It wasn't the way Tamara Donkersgoed wanted to remember her friend: looking for his discarded belongings in the bottom of a dumpster.

But there she was, in early October, sifting through garbage to find Brent Astle's books, photos, DVDs and paintings that were thrown out by his family apparently for containing gay content.

Donkersgoed and her wife, Dawn, had gone to Astle's New Westminster home to meet his family, strict Mormons from Kamloops whom they had never met, to tell them what a giving and caring son they had recently lost.

The women were shocked when they arrived. The family was gone, and "anything of value that was not gay was boxed up and taken," while the rest was thrown in the dumpster, Donkersgoed alleges.

"After some time, we just became numb.... They had taken the time to separate the recycling but not enough time to do the right thing with his belongings."

Astle, 39, killed himself on Sept 30, presumably unable to cope with years of familial alienation due to his homosexuality.

According to Dawn Donkersgoed, when she met Astle in June 2008 he was still struggling and coming to terms with being gay and what that meant to his family.

"The family pushed him out of their lives. They only tried to contact him to send him religious things and spiritual things," she alleges. "His sister said to him at one point, 'You can be gay but you can never have sex with a man.'"

Astle's parents say they had a good relationship with their son.

"We accepted Brent and we gave him unconditional love," says his mother Sheila.

"The family loved him and we always reached out to him," she adds. "We never pushed religion on him."

"He was a good son and we loved him dearly and we miss him," says his father Rodney. "We always had contact with him... He was always good to us."

Donkersgoed says Astle reached out to her earlier this year after he tried but failed to commit suicide. "I tried to do some things to get him connected - and I guess it just wasn't enough."

To the people he worked with, Astle was a high achiever, Donkersgoed says. One month into his first semester of a master's degree in social work at UBC, Astle also worked in the Vancouver Addictions Matrix Program at Three Bridges Community Health Centre.

"I remember he said to me: most people who get into social work get into it to solve their own problems," Donkersgoed recalls.

Brent Astle at Lake Garibaldi in August. He killed himself a month later. His family threw out all his gay books, photos, DVDs and paintings.
(Photo courtesy of Tamara Donkersgoed)
"We were really close. We were pretty much soul mates, in a sense."

The number of reported suicides by gays, particularly gay youth, has risen noticeably in the past several weeks. Since Sept 9, almost a dozen have been widely reported by North American media.

The apparent surge in suicides has inspired some well-known figures to share their own coming-out stories and words of support. Dan Savage's It Gets Better campaign exceeded YouTube's channel capacity in its effort to convince gay youth that life improves after high school.

Though it was as an adult that Astle committed suicide, Tamara Donkersgoed says she hopes her friend's story will encourage others in similar situations to reach out for help.

"It's so important to know that your bio family is not the only family, and not always the family that supports you," she says.

Ryan Clayton, a 22-year-old gay activist in Vancouver, wants to highlight the support that already exists and create more.

"Qmunity offers a range of programs including free counselling," he notes.

Clayton, who volunteers as a facilitator with Out In Schools and sits on the city's gay advisory committee, is organizing a candlelight vigil for Oct 20 to remember those who have committed suicide and discuss services available to those who may be struggling.

The vigil was slated to be held at the Davie Village Community Garden but had to relocate due to more than 350 confirmed attendees on Facebook. It will now be held in Emery Barnes Park at Davie and Richards St.

Clayton says he organized the event because "it seemed like there wasn't anything happening in response to [the suicides]."

He wants to send a message of hope to the community.

"What they're looking for is not a get-together to light candles and feel sad. They're looking to get together and do something about this," he says.

"Why don't we give them an opportunity, sort of like a networking event, where speakers talk about the seriousness of suicide, here's what we're doing about it, and here's how to get involved."

Oct 20 coincides with Wear Purple Day, where some 20,000 people across North America have committed to wearing the rainbow flag's "spirit" shade in memory of those who committed suicide.

 

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Who murdered this boy...........
Just anther victim of the church of Adoph hitler still not excommunicated. From the murder of 40 to 50 million Muslims during the crusades, the million or so women burned at the stake as witches, to the pogroms against the Jews, and now the hatred of the gays, the catholic church has been in many ways the curse of western Humanity. And the German pope - saying gays would destroy humanity, shows his mettle. He licenses the murder and driving to suicide of gay people. While out the other side of his mouth he talks about protecting life. The smokescreen to hide his hate Someone once said "give me a child by the age of 7 and I'll make him a good christian for life" Didn't define what good meant. But if you replace the word christian with Nazi, you'll understand the pope - who was born in 1928 and grew up in Nazi germany. Where gays,as well as Jews etc went into the ovens. All you good catholics there - not one more cent for the church.. Until they or God takes this 10th century monster and solve his problems. BTW - it took a couple years, but almost my whole extended family -44 people, have left the church for the United church of Christ. And we couldn't be happier.
stan James, Baltimore MD USA
10/14/10 9:07 PM EST
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Very Sad
Wouldn't the world be just a wonderful place without religion?
Dave, Vancouver BC
10/14/10 10:31 PM EST
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don't just hate back
I find it ironic that this story about the result of prejudice makes people feel they can then make prejudiced comments about other groups. Bashing religion is an emotional, knee-jerk response to the sadness of this story. There are plenty of wonderful people out there who subscribe to some kind of organized religion without being as hateful and narrow-minded as this Mormon family was. (And as an aside to Stan James, two comments ago: the church in question here is not the Catholic church, it is the Mormon church...not that I'm defending either in this case.)
Andrew, Vancouver BC
10/15/10 3:38 AM EST
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Martin Buber
who was no slouch as a moral thinker, once said: “I don’t like religion much, and I am glad that in the Bible the word is not to be found.” Amen to that.
Douglass St.Christian, Stratford Ontario
10/15/10 8:49 AM EST
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This story
makes my heart sad. I despise religion, especially the one I was brought up in.
Marc, Vancouver BC
10/15/10 11:05 AM EST
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Imagaine - John Lennon
Soooooo sad, that anyone would be made to feel so bad about loving another human being...... Shame on all groups that teach HATE.. Religious and Otherwise. Take a listen to Imagine.. and really try to imagine what a better world we would live in if we all stopped judging and hating one another...
Dean, Surrey B.C.
10/15/10 3:57 PM EST
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Ignorance
I think it is unfair to blame this tragedy on religion. Ignorance is ignorance in any form. Granted, I believe many people mask their fears and intolerance behind the guise of religion but if they didn't hide behind their faith, they would simply blame politics or something else for their inability to be just and kind. I am very sorry this happened and can only hope that it will assist someone else to ask for help before suicide becomes the only option.
Rebecca, Edmonton AB
10/15/10 9:20 PM EST
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No Rebecca
I was brought up in the Catholic faith, and like most who have, I can attest at the constant GUILT and SHAME with regards to anything and everything! ...even chewing gum for Christ's sake! These holier than thou types are the first to turn into a serpent's head and spew venom when things don't appear to be going their way. Just look at my mother, she is BAT-SHIT crazy! Strange that her 3 children all have turned away from the "light" and now we all live productive, guilt and shame-free lives. (happy ones too)!
Marc, Vancouver BC
10/15/10 9:31 PM EST
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Don't blame religion
Ignorance is still ignorance whether the person believes in religion or not. Don't blame any institution for a single persons ability to hate
Justin, Vancouver British Columbia
10/15/10 9:33 PM EST
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why?
believe in yours friends, If your family is not cool. They are your chosen family, and that is a luxury. You chose your family.. They do not choose you. Believe in yourself. IT GETS BETTER.. ;)
tom knapp, Toronto Ontario
10/15/10 10:31 PM EST
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New Location
Thanks to incredible work from the Vancouver Parks Board, Qmunity and the amazing community we live in we have been offered Emery Barnes Park (Davie and Richards) for the vigil. I'm proud to be in this park, named after a great civil rights advocate, and also think it'll be much more spacious. I look forward to seeing everyone there! It's right on two major streets near to transit. We'll be very visible. Please remember to be courteous and respectful of the neighbors, many who I hope will join us. 5:30-6:30 Emery Barnes Park Wednesday, October 20th Wear Purple and Bring Candles! Ryan Clayton Vigil Organizer
Ryan Clayton, Vancouver BC
10/15/10 10:50 PM EST
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In Response
We struggled with coming out with Brent's story as we did not ever intend to hurt anyone by telling it, including Brent, his friends, or his family. Brent shared his struggles with us and the thing he struggled with on a daily basis was being born in to a family whom he said had a belief system that did not allow them to accept him for who he was, which was a gay man. This is not to say whether or not he was "loved" by his family, but instead was to highlight that Brent had a continued struggle with this up until the day he died. Brent shared that he did not feel loved or accepted by his family as a reult of coming out as a gay man. Brent wrestled with his own self acceptance as a result, which he directly related to his religious upbringing. Everything we shared to contribute to this story was directly from Brent or from our own experience while attempting to retrieve his belongings from the dumpster. The intention behind sharing was not to bring shame or hatred toward his family or their religion, but instead to highlight the struggle that Brent went through prior to taking his own life in and in attempt to prevent this type of situation from repeating itself in the future.
Tamara Donkersgoed, Vancouver BC
10/16/10 12:45 PM EST
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Tamara
...but it wont' prevent this in the future when their religion dictates how they behave towards a family member...pushing them right to the edge, and then finally suicide! Telling your story will indeed help other gay folk in this type of situation, but will most certainly not change one tiniest bit of anything with this so-called religion. Sorry.
Marc, vancouver bc
10/16/10 5:07 PM EST
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Is this the proper way or time?
I'm shocked at Donkersgoed's allegations made by way of accusations, personal comments and defamatory statements made against Brent's family and posted on this website for the whole world to see. I am struggling with understanding your motives to "prevent this from happening again" while you look for blame and have totally disparaged this family in your attempts. I have known some of these family members for close to 25 years and have never known them to be other than loving, accepting and caring. I find your statements directed at this family to be offensive. Your lack of compassion at this time of grieving and mourning the loss of their son and brother is unconscionable to say the least. The pain of losing a loved one in this fashion must be insurmountable and for you to blatantly publicize YOUR accusations and untruths is cruel. I have my way of life as well as you; the only difference between you and me is that I don't disgrace and dishonour a mourning family to prove that my way of life is more significant. Likewise, the intention of sharing this is not to bring shame or hatred toward you, but instead to highlight the added pain and suffering you personally have inflicted on this family!
Shelly, Cranbrook BC
10/17/10 10:51 AM EST
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No sympathy
Actions speak louder than words. The fact that they threw out the belongings of a son who JUST KILLED HIMSELF because these items had gay content speaks volumes. Normal, loving parents hold onto each and every reminder of their deceased children, including stuff that may not have been originally compatible with their beliefs. They compromise and question and adapt. These guys seem to be doing exactly what they were doing before, which is trying to deny and reject a fundamental part of their son - the gay part. No sympathy. And no objection to bringing this story out into the open. More parents need to realize that they have a responsibility to provide comfort and support to their LGBT kids and that failure to do so is morally repulsive.
Pyotr Stolypin, Halifax Nova Scotia
10/17/10 2:22 PM EST
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I agree
With Pyotr 1million percent! Shame on this family and a little bit on Shelley too.
Marc, vancouver bc
10/17/10 3:52 PM EST
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It's not like this was unforeseeable
Shelly, I get that it's a time of mourning and I don't doubt the family's grief in the least bit. My point was that this wasn't unforeseeable. Brent Astle didn't kill himself when he was 13 because he was being bullied at school and his parents didn't know what was going on. This man was 22 years old. Based on the article, we know that he'd been out for at least several years. Several years is plenty of time in which to think through one's beliefs and come to terms with the reality that a member of the family is gay. They knew how much anguish lack of acceptance was causing Brent. And yet it didn't change until it was too late. It's time we stop making excuses for these kinds of attitudes. It's not 1952 anymore and it's not unreasonable to expect people to re-assess their beliefs about gay people when it concerns a member of the family. This was entirely avoidable. I also have to question the "unconditional love," if that refers to the Christian "love the sinner hate the sin" kind of love that's oftentimes extended to gay people, which is clearly insufficient.
Pyotr Stolypin, Halifax Nova Scotia
10/17/10 4:37 PM EST
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2 sides
I find it unbelievable from those who want acceptance and to not be judged...to be so judgemental of people they do not know or have never met. There is always 2 sides to every story. To publicly accuse a family of killing their loved one is perposterous! What if the gay community was accused of the same crime? When you have ALL the facts, then a fair judgement can be made. Practice what you preach...acceptance for all & fairness!
Lyn, Kelowna B.C.
10/18/10 3:06 AM EST
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Lyn in Kelowna
THEN GIVE US THE FACTS PLEASE!
Marc, Vancouver BC
10/18/10 10:42 AM EST
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Benefit of the doubt
My position is softening a bit. It must be very hard for the family. However, I don't see how the author of this story could have proceeded any differently. Should Brent's story not be told because some think it may be incriminating? That's not fair to Brent. He's no longer with us to tell his story, which is why someone else has to. And when a story of a suicide appears in the paper, people naturally want to know what could have driven someone to kill themselves. In this case, Brent said what caused him such anguish. Being driven to consider suicide because your family can't accept the fact that you're gay, that's not something people usually lie about. We're giving the benefit of the doubt to the victim. I'm sorry this is painful, but if members of our community are killing themselves because their families wont accept them, then we have a right to talk about that in the hopes of making sure it doesn't happen again.
Pyotr Stolypin, Halifax Nova Scotia
10/18/10 10:57 AM EST
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Need for Role Models
I think Dan Savage's "It Gets Better" campaign was a brilliant response to the lack of support and love that LGBT teens are receiving from their communities. Gay teens need strong, loud and proud role models and I really respect people like Savage and Kristanna Loken for being so open and proud of who they are. Loken supposedly did a great job in Attack on Darfur, and the film will hopefully boost her popularity and strengthen her voice as a figurehead for the gay community.popularity and strengthen her voice as a figurehead for the gay community.
Anna, Orlando Florida
10/18/10 4:58 PM EST
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To Me. Love Me.
Dear Brent, We met many years ago in Kamloops. We met though friends of friends and after a dance, I even slept on your couch. You lent me a book and over the years we lost touch. Between moving, the book travelled with me in boxes and I always meant to give the book back. It was a Queer Astrology Book. Today, I am at work and I happened to read Xtra West on the internet. There you are and it says you are gone. Inside the front page of the book that I borrowed, you wrote, "To me. Love me". I always wondered why you wrote that simple phrase. Now I know why.
MS, Vancouver BC
10/19/10 6:42 AM EST
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You will be miss
Brent, You will be miss by many
Ken, Surrey bc
10/19/10 6:00 PM EST
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I knew Brent when he was a volunteer for Safe Spaces (gay youth group) 10 years ago. I was 20 and coming out of the closet and he was so engaged with us. He'd talk about different newsletters or publications we could read. He was a very positive influence on us. One day I wore all black and the next week he brought me a book of poetry and said "maybe you like poems?" I read them and did. I gave Brent my only copy of "The Girl from Nutbush" a documentary about Tina Turner. He was a nice man and I will remember him always. Joey
Joey Jack, Kamloops BC
10/20/10 3:49 PM EST
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Sad
I went to University with Brent in 2002 and although I didn't know Brent well, he always had a warm and welcoming way about him. It's sad for me to think he left us feeling isolated and alone when clearly so many of us are saddened by his passing. My heart goes out to his family and friends. You will be missed Brent.
dairn kwok, vancouver bc
10/20/10 5:37 PM EST
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Brent's Own Comments on HIS Family
Specifically, I became aware of my anger and hopelessness - first felt as a child. This projection, otherwise known as transference, stemmed from not being supported or ‘heard’ by my father as a child. My father always suspected that I was homosexual and, in turn, discriminated against me by giving preferential treatment to my heterosexual brother. (My family subscribed to a fundamentalist, hence patriarchal and homophobic/heterosexist, religion.) My brother, in turn, was given special status, hence power, in the family buttressed by the fact that my brother was the oldest son. The anger and hopelessness I experienced as a child resulted in a defense mechanism... A quote from an email Brent sent me.
Tuula Helin, Kamloops BC
10/20/10 11:23 PM EST
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I miss Brent
Brent was a kind, considerate human being. The warmth of his personality and wry sense of humour lingers every place he has been, with all the people he has met in his life. He made a gift out of his life experiences to help others. He was truly talented at being loving to people and helping them find their own self acceptance and self worth. He was a stand up man. I miss his face.
Oona, Vancouver BC
10/26/10 12:30 AM EST
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