Lesbians denied service in Kelowna
HOMOPHOBIA / Hotel manager says they were drunk and disorderly
Nathaniel Christopher / Vancouver / Wednesday, January 25, 2012
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A Kelowna lesbian says a local hotel discriminated against her after she kissed her girlfriend in the lounge and was immediately denied further service on Jan 20. The hotel manager agrees that Sue Hillock was denied service but says it’s because she was acting drunk and disorderly.

“We’re four middle-aged professional women who are all lesbian,” says Hillock, an associate professor at UBC Okanagan. “We decided on Friday evening after the hockey game to go to the Vine Lounge at the Delta Grand, where we sat down and ordered some appies and drinks.”

Hillock clams that she and her partner had consumed three drinks over the span of five hours before they entered the bar and were not intoxicated. This statement is corroborated by the other two women, Yvonne Chaperon and her wife, Carla Lundman. Chaperon points out that she had only one drink that evening, and Lundman, the designated driver, hasn’t consumed alcohol for 18 years.

“We were quietly laughing and talking,” says Hillock. “My partner said something funny so I leaned in and gave her a kiss, and because it’s Kelowna and they are very homophobic, I gave her a very chaste kiss.”

Lundman says she observed the kiss — as well as the bar manager’s reaction to the kiss.

"My partner said something funny, so I leaned in and gave her a kiss, and because it's Kelowna and they are very homophobic, I gave her a very chaste kiss," says Sue Hillock, who believes the Delta Grand Hotel kicked her out because of the kiss.
(Sue Hillock)
“The bar manager basically came by the table and Sue turned and kissed her partner and he had this look of disgust on his face, then he sort of disappeared,” says Lundman.

Hillock says the bar manager then walked over to the bar, spoke with their server and the server came over and began clearing their unfinished food and drinks away.

“I asked for another drink and she said, ‘No, because the manager says we cannot serve you any more alcohol,’” Hillock says.

Lundman says the server was very apologetic.

“She said, ‘I am gay-friendly, I have gay friends and I’m so sorry this is happening to you.’ She apologized to me, but she said it was out of her hands.”

Daniel Bibby, the general manager of the Delta Grand Hotel, says that Hillock was exhibiting visible signs of intoxication that were disruptive to other guests and staff members.

“It started out more kind of loud and boisterous, and that was okay. They just came from a hockey game; they seemed like they were having fun,” says Bibby, who did not witness any of the events himself but says he later received reports from four hotel guests and five staff people who were in the bar that evening.

Bibby says that it was the women’s server who made the decision to stop serving them.

“Our server served a round of drinks to everyone and there was one particular lady in this group was quite over the top. She was swearing, going over to other tables and interacting with them, and not in a positive way.”

At that point, he says, the server approached the bar manager and advised him that she believed Hillock was visibly intoxicated and that they should discontinue serving her more alcohol.

“The manager supported her in that decision, and that’s when it got kind of out of hand,” he says.

Hillock says she asked the bar manager to explain why they were being cut off, but he failed to provide a specific reason. “He couldn’t explain to us or give us any example of there being any problem in our group,” she says. “We weren’t loud or disrupting anyone. The only thing that happened, just two minutes after I kissed her, the server came over and started clearing the plates.” Hillock says she then stood up, approached the surrounding tables and told them what was going on.

“I said, ‘They are kicking us out because we are lesbian women, and you need to know this. You should boycott the Delta, you should know that we were refused service, you should leave without paying.’ Then my partner and I left.”

Bibby claims that one of the women assaulted two employees on her way out.

“One of the ladies actually pushed one of our servers and a manager came to figure out what was going on, and one of them pinned him against the wall,” he says.

Chaperon says the bar manager was standing near the door and that when she passed him she told him, “What goes around comes around.”

“He gave me this really dirty look and grabbed above my hand,” she says. “I grabbed him back and that’s when I heard the shorter server say, ‘I saw that,’ and I said, ‘Did you see him grab me first?’ and she shut up.”

Hillock says she has retained barbara findlay as her lawyer and will proceed with a plan in the coming days.

Elisha Vooys, a server at the restaurant in the hockey arena, says she served Hillock and her partner that night and believed that they had already had a few alcoholic beverages before coming in.

“It was between periods when the bar is super busy,” she said by email. “They felt that they didn’t have to wait in line like everyone else, so they were bothering our well bartender, who told them that they needed to have a server put in a drink order for them. They then turned to me while I was on the computer, busy with a different table, and they just told me their order. I put it in and waited for it to come up because the woman in the Habs jersey [Sue Hillock] kept trying to grab other drinks that were for other servers. They were very affectionate, which did not bother me in the least, but by verbal and physical cues I could tell that they had had a few drinks. So after I gave them their two double drinks, I decided if they returned I would not continue to serve them.”

Vooys says her father is a “proud gay man” and that she grew up with him and his partner in her life. “When my father first came out in 1991, he lost his job due to his sexual orientation. That is real discrimination; this case is just a few women’s inability to take responsibility for their drunken actions,” she alleges.



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Homophobic Kelowna
My fiance and I hold hands everywhere and the worst place has been in Kelowna with people yelling from cars and trucks and even one pedestrian threatening us under the guise of "advice". ... Last year, even the Kelowna judge who presided over a homophobic assault case allowed my partner's assailant to have a homophobic diatribe in court after he had ruled against us. ... I hope somebody had the sense to start recording on their iPhone. And I hope the police have secured the security camera footage, but then the police didn't bother securing video footage when my partner was assaulted on the steps of the court house after losing his aforementioned case. ... This story is getting old and repetitive. And with the new "old" mayor, it would seem that Kelowna is regressing, and that's why we decided to go west to south Vancouver Island.
Roger C, North Cowichan BC
01/25/12 8:47 PM EST
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Typical
This is why lesbian bars went extinct. Bunch of fat drunken dykes acting like total slobs in a bar. Not hard to imagine. I've seen it so many times.
ron, Vancouver Bc
01/26/12 11:04 AM EST
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Sounds To Me Like
they are playing the "gay card". This is another one of those "he said/she said" situations and won't likely ever find out the real story. By the sounds of it some in the grouup were drunk and obnoxious. Get over yourselves and behave in a public place.
Dave, Vancouver BC
01/26/12 12:35 PM EST
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I can't comment on this incident but...
...I lived in Kelowna for some time and still visit the city on a regular basis. As a transsexual woman, I started transiton in Kelowna. Yes, there are lots of fundies, some of whom I am happy to call my friends. You respect them (and perhaps not ask them to go further than they are able to go) and they will respect you. Sure, they may think I am going to hell but here on earth we can be civil. Could this have happened? Certainly. Did it happen? I can't beleive the hotel, which recently had a gangland killing on its doorstep, does not have cameras everywhere, especially the bar. Let's see those.
Willow Arune, Prince George, BC BC
01/26/12 3:27 PM EST
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For real?
I commented on this "story" (elsewhere) a week ago when it first broke and am shocked to see that it remains to be considered news. What's more astounding is that someone as respected as Barbara Findlay would attach her name to this side-show. I've only known her to do purposeful work. Cases with substance, as opposed to this balderdash. I will not defame Hillock with my own personal opinions, but will suggest that Miss Findlay's first question to her client should be: "Has anything like this ever happened before?" You only have to read the blogs to see that history will not be kind to Hillock, and just as she is encouraging people to support her by writing to the Delta Grand, advising a boycott - I am encouraging people who have had past dealings with Hillock to take to the blogs. To shine an alternate light on this event and her character, other than Hillock being the poor, little victim of discrimination. Perhaps asking about a well witnessed incident at the curling rink would be a good place to start. If Miss Findlay is seriously entertaining representing Hillock - it is her responsibility to examine past incidents that mirror this one. As for Hillock - how many times have her and her accompanying duo changed their story since it first came to light? Too many holes ladies! And what of the news agencies who have declined to report on this? I'm glad that they have made that choice, not to mention that it portrays Hillock as little more than a media hound. Sort of like when Lindsay Lohan stole the necklace. The only difference being that Lohan's incident was laughable. Burdening the already overwhelmed Human Rights Commission with this nonsense is not. Not at all!
Kenny, Vancouver British Columbia
01/27/12 11:52 AM EST
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sketchy
If you're going to make a drunken spectacle of yourself please don't drag gay rights into it - gay rights is about being treated the same as everyone else - not getting a free pass to pull all the shit you want and expect people to see you as a victim in the end.
Raoul, Montreal Qc
01/28/12 11:07 AM EST
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Rooting for Team Lesbian
As a former resident of Kelowna I have to say that Kelowna, as whole, is NOT a Gay-Friendly place to live or visit whatsoever! The Grand Hotel and their staff, in my experience and opinion, are completely homophobic and feel they right to judge customers and travellers on how they look and act. This kind of harassment and illegal act against the rights of ALL Canadians in all too familar in cities and communities across Canada and it has to stop! This is why my partner and I don't hold hands or even dare try to kiss one another in public. It seems that places, like Kelowna, are all for Gay Rights, Gay Pride Marches, and Equality. This is, infact, a hypocritical move on their part. When it comes down to the real deal, they are just as judgemental as the KKK and Neo-Nazi's! Until you've lived with homophobic actions against you and you have been treated like pond scum by a business such as The Grand Hotel and their staff, shut the hell up and keep your trailer trash comments to yourself. The only person who looks like the idiot is YOU! Discrimanation hurts and doesn't belong in Canada. I think it's funny how homophobes and racists claim they TOLERATE anyone who is not like them. It's not people like us that need to be tolerated, it's people like YOU that HAVE to be tolerated!
Kane Blacque, Edmonton Alberta
02/03/12 3:13 PM EST
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