How would you reinvigorate Vancouver's gay village?
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Natasha Barsotti / Vancouver / Thursday, October 07, 2010
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The West End Business Improvement Association’s (WEBIA) AGM, scheduled for Sept 29, had to be postponed for a week because only 13 of its 800 members showed up.

The AGM will now be held on Wed, Oct 6 in the BIA’s boardroom and will proceed regardless of how many members turn out.

During the summer, WEBIA executive director Lyn Hellyar indicated to Xtra that the organization is planning to do a survey of the West End but remained tightlipped about what kind of information it is seeking.

Hellyar told Xtra on Sept 29 that the survey is still being fine-tuned.

“The marketing committee, when we meet next, we’re going to set a date” for its rollout, Hellyar said.

“I’ll let you know,” she promised, adding, “we’re still looking at the draft and we’re tweaking it.”

Rather than wait, Xtra decided to ask a few community movers and shakers and allies to weigh in on how they would revitalize the gay village now.

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DAVE DEVEAU
Eastside party promoter

Dave Deveau.
(Chris Howey)
The trend I have noticed is that a lot of queers are starting to create more of a queer presence on the Eastside.

I think what’s happening on the Eastside is that we’ve stopped taking ourselves seriously. At the East End parties, we dress up in silly costumes and something sort of magical happens, in that we really feel a sense of community, that we’re all in it together because we’re not there to necessarily be the sexiest person in the room, or to put on airs. We’re there having fun and we look really ridiculous, and there’s something really lovely and confident and empowering about laughing at ourselves.

So I wonder if that’s the key to reinvigorating the Village. I think what we need to do is really encourage a sense of culture. We have a lot of it at Pride, Pride in Art, at certain times of the year, but the idea of fostering an ongoing cultural theatre, be it gallery-space presence in the West End, will help re-entrench our community.

I think the next wave of what needs to happen in the Village is for us to have a space that all of us can occupy and use as a community together — the arts goers, the community leaders who are doing human rights work and support groups, and all of the health work that goes hand in hand.

To me, the reinvigoration of the Village is culture and shared space that we can all occupy together as a community.

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SYMONE
Drag Sensation

Symone.
(Chris Howey)
I would change the bus stops, that pink colour. I don’t know why somebody decided to paint [them] in that shade of pink. It had to have been a straight person or a Dutch person.

Standing bars. You stand, you have a beer and you move on. That would be great to have in the Village as well. We have 1181. We need more of those. I’m probably going to be shot for saying this, but I’m not a fan of the PumpJack. But it has its place. Picture a place that was opposite to that. It’s cute and hip and small, where you went for just a standup cocktail.

Certainly having some affordable housing so the artists can come back into the downtown core. Fifteen years ago, it was vibrant. People were out because people could afford to live here. It was not a big deal going out, say, on a Wednesday night.

We need more festivals. Closing off Davie St, for instance, when we did the street party. The energy that it puts into the area is quite something. We may need to do that quarterly. It would have queer in the title: queer in art, queer comedy. And we block off a street, put a big stage up. It doesn’t even need to be Davie St. Why not use Bute, so the cars can still go up and down?

And we need an arcade. I love pinball. Or a pool hall. They might be retro but they would be great. You need these little interesting character spots.

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DAVID CLARK-WILSON
pHresh Spa

David Clark-Wilson.
(Natasha Barsotti)
Part of the challenges are that there’s been very little movement forward in terms of the 21st century. It’s a little rundown, and there’s slow thinking.

The businesses have to work together. The fact that the [WEBIA AGM] couldn’t [bring out] 15 people out of 800 businesses is not a good sign.

We need to work way more closely with events that take place. The OutGames and Pride are the classic ones to get involved in. We need to be doing something that is innovative and brings people together and basically gives loyalty to the people within one’s community.

Here at the BIA, we have a $600,000 budget. If we can work in harmony and leverage it: pitch the stakeholders from the tourism industry, English Bay, the Pride organizers, the merchant association leaders, and have a strategy in harmony with activities from the merchants — very community-driven.

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AMY NUGENT
WISE Hall

Amy Nugent.
(Chris Howey)
One thing I would do is reinvigorate [the rainbow banners] with a street-running series of all the variations of Pride flags: the leather Pride flag, the bear Pride flag, the boi, the lesbian...

Maybe we can rethink pink. One thing that came to mind was white, this kind of gorgeous new fresh colour — a departure from pink being our totem colour and the Pride flag being this one monolithic [thing]. It tells a story of the evolution and the inclusivity of the Village.

It’s obvious that the West End is catering to gay men from the ’90s. All cutting-edge stuff is happening outside of the West End now.

One of the glaring omissions is there’s a lack of culture, a lack of arts space, and one thing I think would be incredible is a non-commercial arts space, possibly artist-run.

All the events that are happening — Queer Bash, Prance, Iron Rod, Spit — those are really mixed and they’re pushing boundaries because they go into different spaces. They move around the city, they’re flexible, whereas the West End seems dormant.

I don’t think we should lose that Village. At the same time, how does it become more flexible and how does it engage the new thinkers within the community, and the new identities within the community?

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JIM DEVA
Little Sister’s

Jim Deva.
(Chris Howey)
Davie Village has not had the kind of focus and attention that it deserves since the amalgamation of the Davie Village BIA with the larger West End BIA.

The Village is indeed the very heart and soul of the LGBT community in Vancouver. This does not take away from the vibrant communities in the East End or Gastown or Yaletown or Surrey. But without a vibrant, happening heart, the rest will dwindle into the giant miasma of a very diverse and accepting city.

[I’d like to see] an iconic Pride Gate that spans Davie St at its very heart. I envision an arch using the rainbow, probably transparent and illuminated. The Village is unique and different and should be branded as such.

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DREW DENNIS
Out On Screen

Drew Dennis.
(Chris Howey)
As Chinatown has been revitalized and held onto as a neighbourhood that marks the history of Chinese immigrants coming into Vancouver and Chinese community, I feel similarly that we should be doing something with Davie Village. That should be the future of Davie Village.

One of the things we’re excited about at Out On Screen is in July 2011, when Vancouver will be host city to the OutGames, we will be commemorating some of Vancouver’s queer histories in Davie Village. We’re excited about creating something that will be a history aspect, an installation in Davie Village.

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SEÁN CUMMINGS
Queer Arts Festival

Seán Cummings.
(Chris Howey)
What I would do is I would open a studio theatre in the gay village. It could be something along the lines of Havana’s, something where there’s always live theatre on, there’s always queer art in a small visual arts space outside the theatre.

For me, culture is an invaluable part of life, and I think that’s what the queer culture in the Village is missing.

Queer culture is not just drag. Queer culture is not just a leather show. There’s a whole spectrum of the arts. And the arts bring in tourists, theatres bring a sense of beauty, bring a sense of excitement.

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ALAN HERBERT
Former city planner

Alan Herbert.
(Chris Howey)
What’s not being done is for the gay community to be made aware [of] the very important achievements of our community that have stemmed directly from the Village itself.

These are in areas of health, of civil rights, social issues and other items that are part of the fun. [Something like a] Yellow Brick Road to run along the three blocks of Davie between Jervis and Burrard. We’ll want to, at the very outset, take photographs of some of the people who are truly the animators behind it: the original five AIDS doctors to see if they’d be willing to be photographed; Janine Fuller and Jim Deva, who fought to preserve our right to read our own literature; Rob Atkinson, the very first elected president of the Pride Society…


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I love
Herbert's idea!!!! ...bring it!
Marc, vancouver bc
10/07/10 3:47 PM EST
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Symone
Who the hell is Symone to make comments on what bars that thing likes and post them.Pumpmjack is the only bar seems to make it and it seems as soon as the drag queens get involved in the bars they go belly up! What bar besides Pumpjack offers dinners for Xmas,Thanksgiving and Easter? Xtra-West has just become rag and I would not line bird cage with it now.
Jake Bell, Vancouver BC
10/07/10 6:43 PM EST
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Replace the Shoppers building
I have to agree about re-painting those damn pink bus shelters! I'd love to see a new building replace Shoppers Drug Mart and its fugly parking lot. How about a 2 or 3 floor building with some decent sized patios on the main & 2nd floor for restaurants and clubs? Shoppers could still be an anchor tenant. It could house the new home for the gay & lesbian centre with an art space and a small theatre for live acts and film. Could be a vibrant focus for the Village.
Tim Bits, Vancouver BC
10/08/10 12:13 PM EST
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AGREED
Shoppers is a blight on the street.
Marc, vancouver bc
10/08/10 1:41 PM EST
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You can't afford it.
Like it or not, MONEY will dictate what happens on Davie Street. Not the drag queens, dj's or try hards. Davie Street is really only a destination for those prairie boys that have been sheltered. And for those prairie boys that move here thinking they are going to be the next big star but then a month later can't pay their rent. No, really! And I love prairie boys! We live in a city where everyone thinks they are a VIP and aren't willing to pay for anything (just can't afford it), good luck revitalizing what really isn't there.
Pizza Slice, Vancouver BC
10/09/10 5:00 PM EST
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Davis Street - bleh
If I was a 16 year old coming out of the closet, and I took a look at what's walking down the street on Davie, I would run back into the closet permanently. Davie Street is a magnet for the those with one foot in the grave, and no amount of paint can cover up the endless parade of cripples, elderly, meth-heads, gaunt sickly middle aged men in bad fitting ball caps..etc. Best advice to young gays...stay far away from Davie Street...it will kill you.
GAY VILLAGES ARE DEAD, Vancouver BC
10/09/10 5:43 PM EST
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Re : Symone
As usual another comment made without much thought in advance of those lips moving. However, I certainly do defend you're right to voice your opinion and thank Xtra for providing a place for all of us to share them. I personally don't go PJ's (been there 3 times since it opened) but judging by the guys spilling out of it on 4 to 5 days / nights a week, I'd say it's a pretty successful business. As for an arcade on Davie, I guess if people throw away their smartphones, computers, flat screen TV's and all hand held electronic devices, there might be a market for quarter arcades once again - What a dumb suggestion - but thanks for making it.
JT, Vancouver BC
10/10/10 3:52 PM EST
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Best Place On Earth
Davie Street is dead. There are about three people who think they run it and even they are doing a shit job. It is the same people doing the same shit who continue to enable the overwhelming amount of drunks and druggies in town. Besides all that, it is one ugly street. Good luck.
Charlie Jago, Vancouver British Columbia
10/13/10 5:59 PM EST
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Not Much To Be Proud Of
Like probably every other homo I have been to the major "gayhoods" of Canada and the only one's really doing it right is Montreal. In the summertime it is vibrant and interesting with some great shops and restaurants. Davie has become one big dump. It looks and feels grungy. Cheapo burger joints and coffee shops. How do you spruce it up, good question. How do you entice people to open quality shops and restaurants? In my view Davie has become diluted with straight people, not that there is anything wrong with that. In the Fountainhead last week looked like nothing but straight seniors from an old age home. Maybe we don't need our own "gaybourhood" anymore, perhaps it is time to move on.
Dave, Vancouver BC
10/13/10 9:51 PM EST
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Hello?
I find it funny that Robin Perell instead of lauding the gay scene that is forming in the east side is whining about the lack of a scene on Davie Street. The gay scene when it WAS downtown was never on Davie Street. The only bar of consequence there historically was Celebrities. The rest of the good bars were on Granville and Seymour:the Castle, Faces, The Central, The Shaggy, The Dufferin, The Ambassador, The Royal, The Gandy!!!! so how we are bemoaning that Davie has no scene is pretty stupid. Hello!?! There was never a scene there. Or much of one! Meanwhile the scene in the east end is interesting, Friendlier, edgier, very mixed. Im not sure why this is a tragedy? A friend told me a funny story about Pumpjacks. He said hello to someone and got picked up. The guy had been there three times and my friend was the first person to talk to him. He was so excited he went home with him! The west end is a closed system. Its great if your a part of it or know someone but for visitors for out of town it can be very alienating. Like being in someone's living room without knowing the host. Some cultural institutions there would help though. A theatre or an art gallery. Something to actually anchor the scene there. I love little sisters and Jim Deva but do we need him to comment on every development in the west end. Its like he is Mr Gay for Xtra West. Yeah the west end is A heart and soul of the gay community but surely not the only one. Commercial Drive has also always been a gay mecca here for the lesbian community, for a gay mens community who wasnt interested in being in an entirely gay scene. The way gay history gets told in Vancouver and the way it actually developed seem less and less attached. The west end was NEVER a gay village in the sense of Toronto or Montreal. Gays were never a majority there. Now its so expensive not many can afford it. Meanwhile a scene has started in the east end. Lets celebrate that instead of whining about a scene that never really was!!!!
Glenn, Vancouver BC
10/16/10 2:13 AM EST
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Equality vs ghetto
To seek equality in society and also demand a ghetto does not make sense. We are increasingly integrated into society. A gay village in Vancouver now is an anachronism. Legally and sociologically, we have moved on. I see queer couples holding hands all over the the downtown area and beyond just as queer spaces used to be all over the downtown area. It was never just Davie (John Barley's, The Shaggy, Club Vancouver, Ms. T's). Chanting the opposite endlessly will not change fact. Colonial rules of inequality no longer apply so why are we being colonial about this street?
Biff, Burnaby BC
10/16/10 10:47 AM EST
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Horrible comments
"Davie Street is a magnet for the those with one foot in the grave, and no amount of paint can cover up the endless parade of cripples, elderly, meth-heads, gaunt sickly middle aged men in bad fitting ball caps." What kind of a person says something like this? Have you no shame?
Eddy Elmer, Vancouver bc
10/16/10 11:30 PM EST
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What kind of person?
I'm thinkin' some young hipster homo probably around 20, maybe 21 who thinks they are all that and that life revolves around them and all the cock they can suck in a day. Someone with little regard for anyone else but rather self centered, wears all the right clothes and fits right into all of the stereotypes that one could think of. Little do they know, with any luck, they may too become older some day. Of course they will still go to the gym daily , not for the fitness and to be healthy , but for the looks. They will probably have a surgery or two , probably face , perhaps a hair replacement etc etc etc. They will become a tired old queen but think still after all of these years they are still hot and desirable. It's very predictable really. This sort of young queen is a snobby , self centred , arrogant bitch. I hope that helps?
I'm Thinkin', Vancouver BC
10/17/10 1:32 AM EST
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make it "OUT & PROUD"
We need to take back the spirit of The Village and create places where we can be "out & proud" and not hide behind dark blinds and closed doors. Display new rainbow flags on each business supporting the gay and lesbian community. Have speakers out on the street playing great music, create a Davie Street customer loyalty card with discounts at participating retailers, restaurants, bars, etc. Close down Davie Street once a month (to start off with) to allow a pedestrian community to roam free on a Saturday afternoon and evening. Come on people - let's all come up with great ideas to not only save the village but to build the spirit and atmosphere that we all want to be able to enjoy years from now - why can other cities do it and not us? LET'S DO IT!!!!
JC, Vancouver BC
10/18/10 7:04 PM EST
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