The thrill of strange cock in a public place
VANCOUVER / Park sex flourishes as internet's sheen wears thin
Martyn Dunn / Vancouver / Friday, September 25, 2009
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“I was a little bit scared, to be honest,” says cruising aficionado Walter Muller. 

Muller is telling me about one of his favourite hook-ups on the Stanley Park trails — one that stands out in his mind from a life of thousands.

“This guy had parked his car and he was Hispanic, I think, I couldn’t tell you exactly what nationality. I was nervous. You have to wonder about what could happen. But he was really hot looking, young and muscular. He wanted to fuck me and I was a bit hesitant because I’m usually a top. But sometimes something a bit rough can be more appealing than someone who’s all neatly pressed.

WHAT'S THE DRAW? David, Mike and Walter (all not pictured) each like park sex for different reasons. David likes the anonymity. Mike appreciates the easy hook-ups. Walter prefers park cruising because the connections are more personal.
(James Loewen photo)
“I ended up having to hug this tree as he fucked me from behind.

“If I play with myself at home, I don’t even have to watch a porno,” Muller says. “I just think about some of the experiences I’ve had — and that was one of the hotter ones. On the scale of one to 10, most encounters are a five or a six. But that evening it was a nine or a 10.”

Now in his 60s, Muller has been cruising since Weimar Berlin. He still makes regular trips to the Stanley Park trails at least two or three times a week.

He likes to stay active, he says; if nothing else the five-kilometre walk is invigorating.

He also likes to meet new people. “There are six billion people on this planet. There’s always someone new and interesting to talk to. The sex is just an added bonus.”

Which is not to say he doesn’t enjoy the sex. He’s had some great experiences in bathhouses too — including a 200-pound hockey player “with a dick so big I was actually scared off” — but he prefers the trails.

“In a sauna, I feel like I’m in a taxi with the meter running. As soon as you check in you’ve got eight hours and counting. They’ve got their money and it’s still up to you to find someone.”

What about the internet, the supposed New Millennium way of hooking up? Muller doesn’t even own a computer.

“It’s too impersonal,” he explains to me as he takes me on a tour of the trails. “Photos and verbal descriptions don’t ever match up to a real encounter. If you meet live, it tends to be far above and beyond. I don’t want to be looking into a computer. I want to be out there meeting people.”

For a while, the internet did affect cruising traffic, he says. It’s like having pizza delivered to your door instead of having to go out and buy it. But recently Muller says he’s noticed a move back towards real-life encounters.

“Over the last year or so, there has been a backlash,” he says. “I think people are tired of it and they’ve decided to go back to nature, to meeting people face to face.”

Walking with Muller around the trails in Stanley Park — Lees Trail is the hub but there’s a surprisingly large network of surrounding paths — I muse about whether advances in gay rights have also had an effect on cruising traffic.

Does the older generation continue to cruise out of habit from the days when it was as much a necessary means of making gay contact as a vibrant sex scene? Muller agrees that’s an aspect of it, but sees other, more mundane reasons for the trail demographics tending to skew older.

As downtown Vancouver becomes more expensive, many don’t have the means to live in the city. “For a lot of the younger people, Stanley Park is a long way away,” he notes. “They get the bus but then, by a certain time, they have to start heading back.”

So that leaves primarily the older gents who’ve lived in the West End for decades as regular park cruisers, he says.

But you don’t have to be in your 60s to enjoy a bit of public cock. David is 39, single, out and works in the sprawling Vancouver entertainment industry. He’s been cruising since he was 14.

“I was too young to go to regular places to meet guys, so I cruised the parks to hook up,” he explains. “Oddly enough, I found more sex than I could handle.”

Now that he’s an adult, what’s the continued attraction? “Basically, it’s the anonymity of the encounter,” he says — the thrill of strange cock in a public place.

These days, he too uses the internet to find encounters; in fact, I found him on a site devoted to public sex. He was one of only two members willing to break the Fight Club-like mystique and speak to me on the record about park cruising.

“Over the years, I have seen a decline in the number of guys cruising the park,” David admits. “But the types of guys, and the behaviour — that hasn’t changed. Some as young as 16, and some as old as Moses. Gay guys, supposedly straight guys, bi guys, married guys. They’re all there.”

Mike is 41 and has been married for 13 years. His wife knows he’s bisexual, but she doesn’t know that her husband cruises other men when he’s out of town in his job as a travelling salesman.

Mike cruises the trails to get something he can’t get at home, and because it’s easy and complication-free.

Unlike David, Mike says he’s observed an increase in cruising traffic. He credits the internet and the overall increase in access to information that it provides. There are either more guys cruising the trails or “more who know the signs,” he says.

David still cruises for park sex a few times a week and says his best experiences tend to occur in the early mornings. “I always find the most interesting guys to play with in the mornings. There’s less messing about, less games being played. Guys are there for action, not to waste time.”

Muller enjoys mornings too. One of his favourite stories involves a married man in the early hours of New Year’s Day morning.

“He was a very sexy young guy. Had a wife and a business that he didn’t want to lose. He said he wasn’t gay... while he had my dick in his hands,” he chuckles. 

“It’s funny,” Muller smiles, as we crisscross the trails. “You see men going round and round. They jog back and forth over the same area. Some will go to great lengths to pretend they’re just happening to be here. The justifications are fascinating.”

Stanley Park may host the most famous cruising trails in the Lower Mainland, but there are plenty of other places to find a bit of cock in the bushes.

“Almost every city in the Lower Mainland has a cruisey park or area,” David tells me. “Central Park, SFU, UBC, Queen’s Park, Ellwood Park in Abbotsford, Strathcona, Adanac... and never mind the various truck stops and rest areas.”

Mike agrees. “Are you kidding me? Swing a cat, you can find one.”

Muller prefers Stanley Park. In fact, he tells me, if it weren’t for the park and the ocean, he wouldn’t even stay in Vancouver.

“One area that I’m more interested in now is Lovers Trail and Bridal Path,” he says. “There’s a place called Seven Oaks, and you head up to the Equestrian Trail. I find that area can be challenging because you meet different people that you don’t find in the so-called traditional gay trails.

“They’ll stop and chat, they want to be friendly. You know full well your opportunity is there — you just need to make it happen.”

He drifts off with a smile as he wraps up our tour and remembers the old days. “Back in the day, the beach would be cruisey all the way from Sunset Beach and beyond, down to the Aquatic Centre. Next door there was an old boat and people would go in there and oh Jesus!

“I used to be disappointed if I didn’t get anything,” he says. “But it’s not worth getting upset — there’s always another day. It’s like going fishing or hunting: you don’t always come back with the trophy. It takes time and patience. But when you hook the big one, well, that makes it all worth it.”


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Reader Comments


 
Park sex
In my early 20s, a friend in Montreal's Gay Youth group took me to the slopes of Mont Royal. I watched in disbelief the first time but eventually became a regular because the type of guy who would not give me the time of day in a club, was now a more than willing. In the 80s, the eastern slope of Mont Royal had hundreds of sex-crazed men lurking. My university days took me to Toronto where Riverdale Park(Broadview south of Danforth) was quite active. A trip to Berlin found me going to visit the Siegesaule Tower in the centre of the Tiergarten. I easily got distracted by fluke to the wooded area that surrounded it where it became ubiquitous part of any visit to Berlin. I could never understand or get into tearoom sex(sanitary issues), but was an avid park goer in my youth.
Clifford, Vancouver BC
09/25/09 3:57 AM EST
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Time to evolve, bois
Look folks, this behavior is disgusting. And dangerous. And embarrassing to those of us who do not participate in it. And it is not fair that I, a 40 year old gay man with the decency & common sense and self-esteem to have only a small number of sexual partners (9 in my lifetime - AND I knew all of their names! Imagine that!), am judged as a sexual pervert because some gay men don't posess the self control to refrain from public sex with total strangers. Your selfish, dangerous, disgusting behavior reflects on ALL gay people, whether you like it or not. So stop being so selfish. Stop thinking with your dicks. And keep your sexual activity in your own home where it belongs. Some of us gay people are trying to live down YOUR reputations, butt heads. Grow up. Stop embarassing the gay community. How can we rise above when so many of you will drop to your kness in a public park like you were doing a handshake? Screwing or getting screwed by complete strangers in public parks makes you a sexually-compulsive addict, not a gay person. But the general public doesn't see that. They just see another f a g sucking dick in the park. And then they have that impression of EVERY gay person they meet in life. Grow up, boys. It ain't all about getting your rocks off. Try some personal and spiritual growth for a change and you might not need to be out trolling for anonymous, gross cock at 2 in the morning. You might actually meet a human being that will love you and look out for you. But before that can happen, the sexual compulsions MUST be dealt with. Love, An old man
Bill, Vancouver BC
09/25/09 3:13 PM EST
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Time for YOU to evolve, Bill
While I understand your indignation, Bill, there are a few things that you haven't completely thought out. First of all, those who actually think that ALL gays are "promiscuous perverts" will continue to think so whether we all stay home or not. Their homophobia will always find SOME reason to put us down. So save your breath, your "reputation" will never be acceptable to these guys, anyway. Also, why the double standard? There are LOTS of straight couples who have sex in public - in parks, airplane washrooms, elevators...they are usually seen as DARING and SEXY rather than "disgusting", except by the religious. Second,not everyone has a "home" to bring someone back to. As pointed out in the article, some of the cruisers are young teenagers who have neither the right to go to bars, or the money to get a hotel room;their parents are probably not gonna let them bring anyone home either. So according to YOU, these kids have to remain celibate until they can finance their own apartments? Get REAL...And then there are the "straight" or BI married men...who also can't bring people back "home". So stop judging everyone as if they ALL were your age, had your financial possibilities, and your "moral" attitudes. Finally, I also have to say something about having sex with strangers. I have had lovers, and the emotional factor made sex with them certainly far more satisfying generally. But since you DON'T go for anonymous sex, you might not realize that sometimes it is the anonymity that allows things to get really HOT! That doesn't mean that I prefer a quickie with a stranger to a love affair, but BOTH are satisfying in their own ways. In other words, don't knock it til you've tried it!
Ken, Paris France
09/26/09 9:27 AM EST
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Something to consider...
On every internet site there is usually a warning about "safe hookups" which just warns people to meet in a neutral or public place. I have heard of guys going out to these cruising areas in the middle of the night looking for sex. The sex may be great and it certainly is not for everyone. But I hope the guys who are into this scene are aware of the risks involved. Also since these areas are well known to the gay community that also means the police are aware as well.
Daniel, Vancouver British Columbia
09/26/09 11:04 AM EST
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Way to go...
I agree with Bill! I dont see straight couples as DARING or SEXY when they have, what did you say, Airplane sex!! That is against the law just as public park sex is against the law. I dont know who has taken over the Xtra West lately but it has been an embarrasment to walk by or to be even seen picking it up. I read on line to avoid the filth that has been printed on the covers. THE GAY lifestyle is not completely always just about SEX and PORN and how we can get our ROCKS Off. Its about who we are as people in the every day world. How we contribute to society, how we live with values and morals. NOT high horse values and morals, respectable ones. I know many who perpetuate the "shame" by carrying on such antics as "dirty sneaky sex" in parks because to face the truth about their sexuality is too much! Why is it not possible to show on the cover of Extra West, GLBTs in the community, carrying on as Drs Lawyers Editors VPs Realtors Authors. Make us proud to pick up the Extra West rather than walk by it disgusted with yet again another public display of what "everyone" thinks about the community as sexual addicts and perverts. I would not pick up a straight paper with that kind of cover either! Neither would my brothers and sisters, who always ask me why is SEX so much on the forefront of the Gay Community! There are those of us who say it s NOT all we all. Let s do a story on that! You can do better Xtra West.
raymond, vancouver bc
09/26/09 12:32 PM EST
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Sex is at the forefront because...
Sex is our lowest-common-denominator. How many gay people do you hear saying "I'm gay because there's this really hip little restaurant in the village" or "I decided that I was gay because I wasn't doing enough public outreach as a straight man."? Take away sex and there is no gay identity, which I suppose plenty of self-loathing & bitter queens wouldn't be opposed to. Anonymous sex is not my thing, but I can certainly see its appeal. I don't feel a need to apologize on behalf of my sexuality just because some guys decide that some hot sex is more important to them than convincing homophobic straight people that we are just like them. As much as we stamp our feet and kick and beg, there is going to be a large number of people involved in the 'big picture' who will always see us as disgusting & unnatural. A friend of mine sums up the opposing mentalities about aspects of gay culture such as anonymous cruising with the phrase: "Some gay people carry the flag, others carry a briefcase." Personally, I don't see why we can't proudly carry both.
David K, Calgary AB
09/27/09 1:59 PM EST
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Uh-uh
I feel sorry for guys who feel the need or feel they have no other choice but to go out into the bush and fuck a stranger. Geez! I'd rather be single and best friends with my right hand thanks.
Mike, Van BC
09/27/09 8:43 PM EST
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About the collective reputation concern
The concern for the one's own reputation shouldn't be a justification for judging (or prohibiting) other's behaviour. In this sense, I have to disagree with Bill's comment, who seem to express that individual members of the gay community should feel concerned by what kind of image the general public has about the gay community as a collective. When Bill says that the general public might see every gay person as a sex-addict, because some members of our gay community were not able to refrain from having sex in a park, well, he might be right. It's possible, as he says, that this behaviour will be associated, in the general public's judgement, to all gay people. But prohibiting park sex on that basis in unfair. (I am not saying it can't be prohibited for other reasons. But certainly not for the reason Bill invokes.) What about the fact that, for example, I don't approve the behaviour of Gay Christians? Let's say that I find them too "right-wing" for me. Does it allow me to tell them that they should stop acting (i.e. being christian) as they do on the basis that it reflects badly on my own reputation as a gay man? What about the fact that some gay men are effeminate? Should I tell them that they should adopt a more masculine attitude, because their feminine manners entertain some biased image of the gay people in the general public's eyes, and because I don't want to be associated with such an image? Again, I don't think the concern for one's own "reputation" should be a reason to judge or prohibit others's behaviours. If you can't think of others reasons than this one, then the behaviours in question just shouldn't be judged in the first place. I just want to show that Bill's reasons against gay sex in public places are untenable.
Gabriel Aumuld, Montreal Qc
09/28/09 4:07 PM EST
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but are we
dogs? panting dogs that like to screw in the bush? Strange!
Marc, vancouver bc
09/28/09 10:13 PM EST
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"straight-thinking and acting"
There is such a conservative backlash currently to the sexual revolution - gay OR straight - that things have really gotten out of hand. A teaching friend told me recently about showing Zefirelli's magnificent version of Romeo and Juliet to his students. They were AGHAST at the balcony scene and accused Romeo of STALKING Juliet! THAT is the context that we are dealing with today... the most famous love story of all time is now considered as a perversion! In the 70's, public sex was seen by the gay militants as a political act...today, anything that isn't vanilla , monogamous, and behind closed doors is considered "disgusting" by some of the readers here. To the person who replied that "airplane sex is against the law", I'd like to point out that if it weren't for the gay militants, gay sex ANYWHERE would be against the law; Would that stop you dead in your tracks, or would you decide to have fun with your boyfriend in the closet anyway? Get REAL! Do you also believe that there should be no gay marriage, because THAT is "against the law"? Change the laws if they are repressive and idiotic! Don't give in to them! "Public sex" is a misnomer - most of it happens in places well away from the average person's gaze, and at hours when the "public" is safely in bed. Even in planes, it is still in the washroom. Why should that be illegal? It is hurting no-one - just inconveniencing someone if they take too long to liberate the washroom... Live and let live...and stop judging so much. It is spoiling the reputation of good Christians who know that Jesus wouldn't like it.
Ken, Paris France
09/29/09 6:24 AM EST
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Don't be pigeon-holed
I understand many of the arguments people are making, that there is no reason to judge something because it is different. A judge in London Ontario, ruled on bathroom stall sex, that it's not criminal as there is "a reasonable expectation of privacy". I'm also not interested in my reputation amongst bigots who will hate me anyway because I'm gay. However. I really resent this argument that I cannot disagree with things like park sex, just because I am gay. I can support, monogamy, marriage, anything I wish, and still not betray my gay identity. I don't have to support everything sexual because I am gay. Being gay is about more than simply sex acts. To believe otherwise, is to buy into oppressive, dated stereotypes. So there may be good reasons to not judge those who have park sex, even if it isn't for me personally. Don't use the fact that I'm gay as an arugment though.
Clint Babula, Thunder Bay Ontario
09/29/09 10:58 AM EST
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In reaction..
I am not going to criticize the behaviour of which I don't partake of other gay people,be it washroom sex, bathhouse sex. S & M, drag queens or the omni presence of TNT(totally Nude Toronto) who parade in nothing but footwear down Toronto's main drag on Gay Pride nor the abundant topless lesbians during Toronto's Pride weekend. Nor am I going to criticize the gay Europeans in Berlin, Amsterdam or Barcelona where anonymous backroom sex can be found in a good percentage of their clubs I will also not comply with what the straight world sees as "normal". As for park sex, when I have participated, I do not seek to be seen by passerbys and a code of conduct and respect for safe sex practice is always adhered to. If you are not into it, don't partake just as if a movie is deemed too offensive, don't see it , but don't ban or censor it.
Clifford, Vancouver BC
10/03/09 1:06 AM EST
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By the way..
No, I'm not an ex Torontonian
Clifford, Vancouver BC
10/03/09 1:10 AM EST
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Double Standard ?
First, I must say for the record that I love sex. I love thinking about it, talking about it, and doing it. However, as I grow a little older and hopefully wiser, I find myself feeling a disconnect between myself and the Xtra newspaper. More often than not, the covers are very sexual. Sexual pictures, head-lines, and bolded words seem to be the norm. Much like others have posted on this comment thread, I don't want everyone (no matter their sexuality) in society thinking that my entire genetic profile is only sex related. There's so much more to life (and gay men) than just sex. It would be very cool to see the front page of Xtra being much more reflective of life around us and not just about various issues constantly revolving around all things sexual. A little note to Ken, after about 10 years of nights down at Vancouver's Fruit Loop, I can honestly say that I can count on one hand the number of hetro couples having sex there. On the other hand, I couldn't even begin to be able to count the number of men of all ages I've seen down there during all those years. Kinda sad when I think about it these days. One last thing, why do some gay men think it's their right to have sex in public ? The last time I checked, having sex in public is against the law - both for gay and straight people. Gays always fight for laws to include them, so why is it then ok to break the law ? Seems that's a major double standard to me.
Jeff Taylor, Toronto Ontario
10/03/09 2:32 PM EST
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Sex,sex,sex
Is it not time to move forward? Aren't we are worst enemies? Extra West continues to publish stories like this. Thank you Extra West for keeping the myth alive that we as homosexuals are some sort of deviants who hide in the shadows looking for sex at every turn. I am sorry but there comes a time when enough is enough. I have never trolled Stanley Park and neither have my gay friends. When you publish stories like this, and I truly believe you do it because you think this is what the gay community wants, I cringe. I hate that you fan the flames and give ammunition to the "straight community" to use against us. Fair or not they hold up stories like this to use against us to brand us with whatever labels they feel fits. I feel sorry for guys who have to resort to heading to the bushes for sexual release but it is a public space. If I sound like some sort of prude or self righteous homosexual I do not mean to be but I feel there is a time and a place for everything, including sex. Time to get some self control and self respect and please please please ExtraWest it is certainly time to put a different face forward. Times are changeing and it is high time that you too tired to focus on something more than the constant sex that you love to "report on". Let's not give those who love to work against us ammunition.
Brian, Victoria British Columbia
10/07/09 12:24 AM EST
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L is for...
Jeff Taylor posting on pretty much every article in Xtra. Thats whats becoming a double standard, and he leaves little to believe someone would even want to have sex with him. I guess since he's burned his bridges in Vancouver and had to move to Toronto (destinational cure) he hasn't made any friends yet, let alone found a job. So Xtra is his only friend. Ah, so sad, too bad. Let weep.
Jeff Taylor, Toronto Ontario
10/08/09 3:52 AM EST
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