UPDATE: Murray 'not giving up' on 11 Wellesley green space
NEIGHBOURHOOD / Community members continue to push for a public park
Andrea Houston / Toronto / Tuesday, March 05, 2013
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MPP Glen Murray is staying silent about details surrounding the future of a vacant site at 11 Wellesley St W, declining to provide an update or offer comment on the confirmed development deal and ongoing fight for a green space at the site.

On March 2, Ward 27 Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam confirmed that the province had closed a deal with Lanterra Developments. She says legislators have refused to come to the table to work with the city to ensure a park is included in the deal.

After repeated efforts to get a comment from Murray, he contacted Xtra March 15 to ask for more time before giving a full interview about the issue. “If you can wait two weeks, two and a half weeks, I can talk to you more about it. I can’t say anything for the next little while,” he said.

When pressed as to why he was unable to comment, Murray said,  “Just because.”

While Murray has been involved with the project for some time, he maintained he needs more time to evaluate recent developments around the site.

MPP Glen Murray.
(Xtra file photo)

“I just got into the ministry and I am reviewing the file, and I will be able to talk to you in two to three weeks.

“Sometimes the government needs a bit of room to look at stuff,” he said. “I thought Kristyn understood that. Apparently, she did not. I’m fine with her continuing to talk about it. Look, I’ve been in the job only a few weeks. Just give me a few weeks, and I’ll be glad to chat once I get a handle on these files.”

Xtra reminded Murray that the fight for a park at 11 Wellesley is not new. He agreed. “I started this campaign. I ran on it, and it’s very important to me. We are trying to work in partnership with the city. We were hoping the city would buy the land. They were not interested in buying the land, so that limited our options. So it has become a difficult file, but I am not giving up on it.”


Development deal confirmed for 11 Wellesley St

Despite the fact that a condo deal has been confirmed for the derelict lot at 11 Wellesley St, Ward 27's councillor says the fight for a public park in the space is far from over.

Kristyn Wong-Tam says the province closed a deal with Lanterra Developments on March 1. Lanterra, which was one of 12 companies to bid on the land, did not respond to Xtra's request for comment.

“We are most likely going to see a multi-tower plan for about 1,000 units, which doesn’t leave a lot of land for the park,” Wong-Tam says, noting she's still working to acquire some public green space. “The discussions are still preliminary, but I’m hopeful we can secure the best results for the community.”

The 2.1-acre lot just west of Yonge Street was owned by the province and has been vacant for two decades after several failed attempts to develop it.

The tall hoarding that surrounds 11 Wellesley has been painted over with colourful murals of what some local residents hope a park might look like. Others have painted messages, including, “We want a public park.”
The wooden fence that surrounds 11 Wellesley St has been painted over with colourful murals. The community hopes a deal can be reached with Lanterra Developments, which closed a deal March 1.
(Andrea Houston)


Kathryn Holden is the spokesperson for the Community Committee for the Procurement of 11 Wellesley Street West for a Public Park, which is actively fighting for a park. 

“As a community we will not stop working towards the maximum amount of green space for the site,” Holden says. “We never give up hope.”

A deal with the developer is still a possibility, she says. “Let’s just say the file is not closed. There is still a lot of negotiating to be done. There are possibilities that have not been explored yet.”

Ward 27, an area with some of the highest population density in Toronto, rates low on the city's scale of green-space sufficiency, a need that will increase as more condos are built.

Wong-Tam says the province has failed to come to the table to work with the community. Instead, she says, the province sent the message that the city should compete in the bidding process in the open market.
Ward 27 Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam.
(Xtra file photo)


“The province has not been helpful, unfortunately, despite many attempts by the community to get the province to work with the city,” she says.

MPP Glen Murray did not respond to Xtra's repeated requests for comment.

In November, Toronto city council voted in favour of using parkland reserve funds to negotiate with a condo developer to carve out a park. But, Wong-Tam says, the city is not in the business of land purchasing, nor is it a condominium developer.

“We would come to the table with a fraction of the money,” she says. “I know how much was paid for this piece of land by the developer, and we would not have been able to compete . . . It’s ludicrous to expect the city to compete with private developers.”

Wong-Tam, who confirms that the land sold for $65 million, asked the province to halt the sale, which, she says, legislators could have done. “So, it’s rather disingenuous for the province to say that the city did not make an offer.”

The province also had the power to stipulate that the successful developer must work with the city to provide park space, she says.

“We were promised that by Minister Murray,” she says. “So if there’s any green space we end up securing with the developer, it will be solely because the developer was willing to cooperate.”

Wong-Tam plans to begin a negotiating process with Lanterra as soon as possible.
The 2.1-acre lot just west of Yonge Street was owned by the province and has been vacant for two decades, after multiple failed proposals.
(Andrea Houston)


“This is a developer that I have a good working relationship with, and one which already has several projects in the neighbourhood,” she says. “The discussions are encouraging.”

Meanwhile, the community is continuing to press for a green space. Holden says there are 800 names on the electronic petition, which adds to the 3,000 names on the hard-copy petition that has already been delivered to Queen’s Park.

“It reminds our councillors, our MPP, our mayor and our premier,” she says. “Every person who signs that petition gets their name sent to those people. We have to keep reminding everyone that we still need that park. If the development has to be there, we want it to be as small as possible and the park to be as big as possible.”

Toronto is growing rapidly, she says, and more condos are being built in Ward 27 than in most other neighbourhoods in the city. “The communities that are being intensified have to be complete communities. There has to be green space designated. All the elements of community infrastructure need to be there . . . All we see happening is developments.”

Wong-Tam says the residents of Ward 27 have been patient. She thinks that even a small park would help overcome the area's deficit of green space.
 


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Great... more condos...
Just what we need! Another "multi-tower plan for about 1,000 units." As usual I see politicians have the community's needs at heart and are not at all in bed with big money developers. Note the sarcasm. :/
Maggie, Toronto Ontario
03/06/13 11:17 AM EST
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so much for density being better than sprawl
Sorry but Toronto is not a rural area you can't just create a park randomly it is completely nonsensical.
unknown man, toronto ontario
03/06/13 12:28 PM EST
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Cawthra Square?
A park at 11 Wellesley would be lovely, but what's going on with one of the community's key existing parks: Cawthra Square Park? Xtra last reported on the park's redevelopment in February 2011, but apparently a final design has now been chosen, according to the Church Wellesley Neighbourhood Association FB page: http://on.fb.me/Yyhj8A Councillor Wong-Tam and community association seem to be strangely guarded/quiet about the plans.
What about Cawthra?, Toronto Ontario
03/06/13 6:58 PM EST
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Re: Cawthra Square?
Sorry, make that February 2012: http://www.xtra.ca/public/Toronto/City_proposes_major_renovations_to_Cawthra_Park-11487.aspx
What about Cawthra?, Toronto Ontario
03/06/13 7:03 PM EST
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Proposed site density is absurd
One thousand units is overkill for this site. One single 12 to 15 storey building with 3 storey townhomes along Breadalbane and low retail along Wellesley would work best for this site. A good working model for this site is the original Polo 1 project Tridel built in the late eighties. The building Tridel built on Bay St. is a modest 22 floors and the townhomes along St.Nicholas St., Irwin Ave and Inkerman St. fit both perfectlt on the site and in the sorrounding neighbourhood. Perhaps the city wants the 1000 units for the tax revenue it will generate.
Francis, Toronto Ontario
03/06/13 10:34 PM EST
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Dog Toilet....
Seriously are there not more important things going on int he city, like affordable housing for working people? Must she spend so much time in making sure there is a dog toilet for the rich folk? She is a complete disappointment.
Karen, Toronto ON
03/07/13 10:31 AM EST
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Disappointing
Can't say I'm surprised by this decision. Premier Kathleen Wynne, Glen Murray, and the Ontario Liberal Party talk a good game about greenspace, but here they are approving yet another irresponsibly massive development against the wishes of the community. Good for Councillor Wong-Tam for trying to salvage something good out of this. Shame on the Ontario Government.
Daniel, Toronto Ontario
03/08/13 1:23 PM EST
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Murray has disappointed us...
I was at a meeting of the CWNA last year with Glen Murray who advised that the provincial government under no circumstances would sell the land to a developer. He advised at the time that the province wanted to give the land to the City of Toronto for a park but was concerned that under the Ford regime it would be sold for condos. So he said that if push came to shove it would be transferred to Ryerson University as a common area to ensure that this became a park. Looks like Murray was asleep at the wheel, or was making pie in the sky promises. Apparently he didn't respond to repeated requests...hmmmmm. I hate to say it, but I'm starting to see Murray as an opportunist. This is terrible news indeed, especially since it has been sold to one of the worst, most unethical developers in Toronto. It is interested to know that New York developers opposed Central Park's creation in the 1800s. Imagine if they had their way the way that developers get their way here. But here we get another throw away floor to ceiling glass building with windows that will go in 10 years.
Jeff, Toronto Ontario
03/11/13 10:28 AM EST
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Murray has been a disappointment?...
XTRA is the biggest disappointment, fawning over that nasty Kathleen Wynne. It was pointed out in the posts that one of her big campaign people, ns Islamist was a threat, and then she appointed him the Cabinet Post of Minister of Labour and oh look today, surprise surprise her freind, her "allie" is wrapped up supporting some religious wife-beating SHARIA LAW BS. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/03/12/yasir-naqvi-islam-book_n_2859694.html..............Islam and the WEST are completely incompatible. This is Kathleen Wynne, Get if folks, this is who SHE IS!. And remember too she had DARCY SHEPPARD killer, Michael Bryant on her transition team. The Gays better get it together really fast, especially XTRA.
rupert, Hamilton ON
03/12/13 12:18 PM EST
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Wong-Tam is a FRAUD
I did not really see the need for a public park at this location (a new park is in the works just 2 block North at Bay & St Joseph) but I find it strange that after making a big fuss over this and getting approval to use Section 37 funds to make on offer on the site - the city DID NOT BID on this property! Why? The answer is this was a big show by Wong-Tam. Just like her fellow idiot downtown Councillor - Adumb Vaughan - Wong-Tam thinks that Section 37 money is all hers ! It's her war chest and obviously she had better uses for it than buying up a vacant lot! WAKE UP PEOPLE - WONG-TAM IS A FRAUD! Another example of what a two-faced phony she is - is when the Heritage Home was torn on Wellesley just east of Church. She claimed to have been caught by surprise. If find this hard to believe that she did not know the demolition was imminent. She had been emailed by concerned citizens prior to the demolition.
Kevin, Toronto Ontario
03/12/13 8:46 PM EST
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@Rupert - good comment re: Wynne
The book that Wynne's Muslim Minister of Labor endorsed not only condones beating wives - this is what the author Suhail Kapoor had to say about homosexuals QUOTE: "17. Disapprove Homosexuality: ....”If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination (to’evah); they shall surely be put to death, their blood shall be upon them” UNQUOTE ...Why is Wynne silent on this subject? Why isn't she condemning this hate-filled book that calls for the KILLING OF GAYS in the strongest terms possible? Is she afraid she will lose Muslim votes?
Kevin, Toronto Ontario
03/12/13 9:35 PM EST
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Seriously? A DOG TOILET.
THIS is THE issue that gets the Fat White Man out of his rocker? An urban DOG TOILET?
Fatman, Hogtown diversity
03/18/13 11:34 AM EST
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ed10001@rocketmail.com
Thank you provincial legislators for giving our neighbourhood a more hostile urban landscape by approving a deal that works for the benefit of the very rich. You have contributed greatly to the gentrification of Toronto and the enshrining of the sacred-cow-status of greedy developers. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I hope you can sleep at night, which I am sure you can do very well.
Ed, Toronto Ontario
03/20/13 10:49 PM EST
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