UPDATE: Councillor invites community suggestions for Church-Alexander space
COMMUNITY / New Bixi stand will replace benches through the winter
By Rob Salerno / Toronto / Thursday, November 24, 2011
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The city councillor responsible for the Church-Wellesley Village is inviting residents to contribute to a new plan for the popular hangout at the corner of Church and Alexander streets following outcry over the removal of four benches from the sidewalk there.

The benches belonged to the condo at 70 Alexander St, although they were on the public right-of-way. They were removed by Greenwin Property Management, which manages the retail properties along the Church St side of the building, following complaints by residents of criminal activity and violence on the corner. 

Greenwin refused to comment for this story.
Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam wants a revitalization of the Church-Alexander corner to be part of a grander makeover of the Church St strip.
(Rob Salerno)

For the winter, the corner will become home to one of eight Bixi locations that are being moved from city streets to accommodate snowplowing. The Bixi station will be moved out again at the end of the season.

The condo building is also adding wall sconces facing Alexander St on Nov 25 to improve lighting near its entrance.

Ward 27 Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam says she wants the corner to be inviting and welcoming and is asking residents and community members to contribute ideas for what they’d like in the space. A working group will be formally launched in early 2012 to discuss ideas, and it will be open to community members to join. Wong-Tam wants the corner to be incorporated into a larger Church St beautification plan.

Wong-Tam has already heard some suggestions for the space, including a community garden, more lights, bringing back the benches, and adding tables that pedestrians can gather around.

“If a space is beautiful, that’s something that would hopefully deter illegal activity,” Wong-Tam says. “I’m not against the cruising; that’s always welcome on Church St.”

One idea Wong-Tam is floating is to ask the Bank of Montreal to open its windows that face onto the street to bring more light and eyes to the corner.

“When BodyBodyWear and American Apparel were there, they had window displays there and they had opened up their windows to the street. When Bank of Montreal moved in, they turned their back to the street with screening on the windows,” she says. “I really think that’s when we started to see an additional escalation of problems.”

A spokesperson for Bank of Montreal confirmed that the branch is working on ways to improve its exterior lighting but couldn’t comment on what specific changes it would make.

Any further changes to the street are not budgeted for by the city, the local BIA, or any of the private businesses or condo corporations, Wong-Tam says.

“No one has identified that there should be money to improve that corner. That’s also something that I as a local councillor have to find the money and allocate that to the space,” she says.

Wong-Tam says that once she has a plan from the community, she’s confident she’ll be able to raise interest from private stakeholders and the city to pay for it. She cites private involvement in the redevelopment of the Bay-Davenport intersection and money she’s raised for pedestrian improvements to downtown Yonge St as examples of securing money for business-led public-space improvements.

Since launching her vision of widened sidewalks and reduced auto traffic on Yonge St between Dundas and Gerrard in June, Wong-Tam says she’s raised $1.8 million in commitments from businesses toward the project.

“We can’t put in something that’s just generic,” she says. “We have to incorporate history and make it green and welcoming. Wouldn’t that have more value than just four benches or a Bixi station? That’s the challenge, and it’s actually a very exciting challenge.”


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Reader Comments


 
lifelessness on display
The people who occupy public benches the most tend to scare off the rest of the general public (Cawthra Square comes to mind). That said, I liked the benches better than an empty cement square. I hope whatever fills its place is accessible to the public, and there is the option to sit down (say, if you're outside waiting for someone). I hate the thought of Church and Alexander being used as winter storage for BiXi racks. Can we at least get a Christmas tree in there for the interim? I'd donate a toonie for that.
Ryan, Toronto ON
11/25/11 4:26 PM EST
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False accusations are not fair to our community
HI, I live on Alexander and work on Church street. Having said that, I have a unique perspective of this area every day and night. I have seen it used more often than not, as a meeting place, filled with smiles,laughter and a sense of community. I have also seen it used for not so desirable activity, excessive noise after the bars close. These 2 observations can be applied to all small sitting areas across the city with a concentration of night activity. Although the condo does have a valid complaint if noise is the real issue, what I don't appreciate is the suspected false accusation of criminal activity by the condo board as being the reason for the removal of the benches. It simply isn't fair to blame this on the community unless there are hard facts to backup the accusations of criminal activity and if there are then the condo board should provide this information to the community in an open meeting. Then and only then can a fair resolution to the issues at hand be resolved. The condos ownership of the benches and their right to remove them is their right. It seems reasonable to assume if the benches were replaced by the community or the city everyone would be happy, except the condo residents. If there is criminal activity happening or excessive noise, then the police should be called, end of story. These same rules apply for all disturbances around the city. To be fair to the residents of the Alexis condo, I do realize the residents, like all residents living downtown have the right to sleep in peace but, you new what this community and this city was all about when you moved here, benches or no benches!
Michael, Toronto Ontario
11/25/11 8:54 PM EST
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Most crimes are not investigated by the police
Michael, in response to your post, if you call the Toronto police about a crime, you will find out that they are not interested in investigating most crimes. For example, if you call the police about a stolen bike, the police will tell you there is nothing they can do. Similarly, if you live in a rough neigbhourhood and call the police after your front window was smashed by vandals, the police will tell you there is nothing they can do. If you call the police because you were threatened by a homophobic street person (without actually being bashed), the police will tell you there is nothing they can do. If a car almost runs over you at an intersection and you call the police with the car's license plate number, the police will tell you that there is nothing they can do. The police are only really interested in investigating crimes like murder and sexual assault. So, the condo board had to act since the police would probably not.
Jake, Toronto Ontario
11/25/11 9:07 PM EST
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A lack of a police presence is the real issue.
Hi Jake, in response to your message. So, the real issue is the lack of a police presence in our community? I don't doubt this, but the police are there to serve and protect. So, if the condo board had taken their concerns to the police and their city Councillor and did not get a favorable response, this would be news worthy and the community would be behind the board to end the violence or criminal activity in the community by adding their support and putting pressure on the City councilor to act accordingly on these matters with the police. These are reasonable actions to be expected by a board that would like to keep their credibility with this community intact. The boards actions are a quick fix but unfortunately for them, them have opened a Pandora's box of unnecessary accusations, blowing issues out of proportion and drawing negative media attention to our community and the condo residents. The boards actions are an unwelcome resolution to on going problem with no end in sight,if true. Working and communicating with your community, not against it, is how you form a good relationship with positive results and a positive community.
Michael, Toronto Ontario
11/25/11 9:45 PM EST
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First they came for the
transgendered on Homewood, but I didn't say anything because I'm not transgendered, then they came for the street people on Alexander but I didn't say anything because I'm not a street person.......................... Whatever they do they don't create long term secure living wage employment (ie:Timothy's). Do not under any circumstances create enough services for the vulnerable. No, let's not do that because that would mean making tough decisions, taking tough political positions and creating unpopular dialogue......no, can't do that, it's much too hard. But we can ban shark fin soup and get rid of bike lanes! Next, they came for the HIV+ but I didn't say anything because.........
Chris, Toronto ON
11/26/11 9:03 AM EST
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18” diameter blood stains in front of the benches
There were several huge 18 inch diameter blood stains and splatters in front of the benches after someone's head was smashed in by drug dealers. The victim was too afraid to make a complaint. It went nowhere. I investigated who the major drug dealers were on the benches and noted how they controlled the area with violent thugs who they paid. I took the info to the police. I called the police whenever I saw those characters on the benches. Apparently other neighbours have been doing the same. Several of my neighbours have been robbed passing through that corner on their way home. When drug dealers, thugs, rowdies and crackheads are around, the local residents either leave or sit uncomfortably and for less time. These are not only my observations, but also those of my neighbours for 20 years who used to like sitting on the benches on Alexander St. The angling of benches to increase eye-contact, adding plants in large pots to create a mini garden, increased lighting, also might make a difference.
Neighbour, Tor Ont
11/26/11 3:00 PM EST
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FAIL!
Bikes Lanes gone...Check...TTC increase in fares and huge decrease in services....Check.....support for removal of Occupy Toronto ....Check...support for THIRD WORLD wage-slave / working poor businesses/banksters that cause ALL of our problems .... Check ....Attack against the Gay Poor (created by support for THIRD WORLD business and banksters)....Check....Ban of Shark Fin soup....Check....Attack against the Tranny's on Homewood ....Check....Councillor Wong-Tam FAIL!....Check.
Chokedup, Toronto Ontario
11/27/11 8:40 AM EST
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Not sure
why but your articles Rob Salerno are always well written and better edited than almost all others. Some of the writers on Xtra with respect are embarrassing. For Kristyn Wong-Tam perhaps a rethink in visioning is required. One can't remove a cruising spot then be in support of cruising. I'm thinking the real issue here is the cruising by the gays. I'm just sayin is all.
tim, toronto on
11/27/11 8:54 AM EST
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Thank you Kristyn!
I live near the former benches area. What used to be a friendly community space has changed dramatically in the last two years. I have witnessed daily drug dealings, regular disturbances at night and two violent attacks against my neighbours. The Police had to be called almost every night but the problem persisted. I care about public spaces and believe it’s important to keep our Village vibrant and welcoming. This is exactly why something had to be done. Nobody likes to feel unsafe. The bench removal was a community decision. All stakeholders were consulted: the bank, the coffeeshop, the local condo and co-op residents, the business improvement association, the police, the Church and Wellesley neighbourhood association and the Streets to Home program. Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam brought the community together around that issue. She did an amazing job. The corner has a landmark statue, sidewalk art, trees, and is getting more light and a Bixi station. It’s a safe space again. We can now reclaim Church and Alexander as a community space. I'm looking forward to see the next improvements.
Joseph, Toronto Ontario
11/28/11 10:04 PM EST
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The world is ending
They took away my benches! My benches that didn't belong to me on a corner everyone abused but no one took care of! Where people would sip lattes and do banking while homeless people slept on the pavement. Who saw that coming? Hey Chokedup can I can come sit/sleep/do drugs/vomit/scream/drink/urinate/throw garbage solicit sex for money/feed vermin/party with my friends on your front doorstep until 2 AM night after night now? No? Why not? I mean, your security and sleep habits are a small price to pay for my sense of entitlement, after all. Oh, woe is me. Looks like I might just end up in the ovens with Chris.
Loquacious Snee, Toronto ON
11/29/11 1:26 AM EST
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I'm with Joseph (above)
The expansive corner and benches were a wonderful idea and it was always nice to see an attractive spot where friends and new-found friends could meet. Many of us appreciated the same at The Steps (the old location of Second Cup, now Gingers) until it was over-run by drug dealers and the homeless and desperate byproducts of human reproduction. Likewise, and foreseeable, the C/A corner was abused and shut down, and I couldn't be happier.
David Turner, Toronto ON
11/30/11 3:16 AM EST
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Police can't help those who won't help themselves
This is now the 2nd Gay fun place that was infested by the trash of society and taken away from us in just a few years. The 2nd Cup and now Alexander/Church Benches. And the Gays just obediently move on... a few natter comments. Where is our rage, where are the baseball bats to get rid of the drug dealers and crackheads and straight street trash. Of course if the Gays didn't support the drug dealers with money they would move elsewhere. If the Gays didn't pay the straight street trash for meaningless quick fantasy sex, they would move on. There is more than one disease in the bowels of our desperate community. The police can't help those who won't help themselves.
Joe, Tor Ont
12/02/11 6:26 PM EST
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