The Barn's gay cowboys ride off into the sunset
TORONTO NEWS / New owner of former gay nightclub paints over historic Village mural
Andrea Houston / Toronto / Thursday, March 21, 2013
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The iconic gay cowboys mural on the south wall of the old Barn nightclub on Church Street -- what many have long seen as the gaybourhood's southern gateway marker -- is gone forever.

The painting, featuring the backside of two cowboys lovingly holding hands, was also an advertisement for Molson Canadian. The cowboys have now been covered over by a layer of black paint.

“This was a beautiful mural . . . I don’t like that it was destroyed,” says community member Joshua Hromek. Hromek assumed the painting was defaced as an act of homophobic vandalism because only half is now covered -- the gay half.

But the truth is not quite as violent.

Since the club closed in August, the future of the 19th-century building, and its campy mural, has been up in the air.
The mural on March 20.
(Andrea Houston)


Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam says the building has been sold to a new owner, who recently decided to paint over the mural in preparation to reopen as a pub/restaurant -- similar to O’Grady’s up the street.

Wong-Tam says she found out via Twitter on March 11 that the mural was being painted over. She asked the new owner to immediately stop painting, but it was too late. Xtra could not reach the owner for comment at press time.

At the end of the day, says Wong-Tam, painting over the mural was a mistake.

“It’s a heritage property. You should not be altering a heritage-designated property without advising the city,” she says. “Unfortunately, it all happened very quickly.

“[The new owners] were a little surprised that they needed our permission, or at least inform the city.”

Still, she says, heritage-preservation staff view murals as temporary applications. “So they can go up and be removed. And a building owner is within his right to remove the mural.”

Wong-Tam says the owner asked about donating the wall to the Church Street Mural Project, a large-scale outdoor art project currently in the works for the Village.

James Fowler, co-curator of the project, says the Barn’s wall is now one of more than 10 Church Street walls that will soon be canvasses.

The Barn in 2006.
(Jon Lidolt)


Fowler says that sometimes change is good. “That mural is a part of our history, but it’s a very male-centric image. Right now, I see more diversity in the area. And I think a cowboy image is a little dated . . . Maybe now it can become a female-centric wall or a trans-centric wall.”

The mural certainly predates Brokeback Mountain, but Fowler does not know when it first went up, or who painted it.

“Don’t forget, this was an advertisement, designed around branding and product placement,” he says. “Ultimately, I think this is reflective of a change in the community, something that was part of a bar that is no longer there. Preserving history is very important. How we do that may change over time.”

The Barn first opened its doors in 1975 with a restaurant and bar called Les Cavaliers downstairs, says local crime writer James Dubro. He says the mural went up at some point during the management tenure of the Barn’s original owner, Janko Naglic.

“He was very proud of it. I remember that,” he says. “I imagine there was some revenue coming in for that from Molson.”

Dubro says that the mural was a big, splashy and very public expression of homosexuality painted at a time when visibility was not as common, even in the Church Wellesley Village. “It does have a lot of very positive qualities to it. It’s an ad, yes, but compare that to Dundas Square.”

“Was it an eyesore or a great piece of history? It’s probably both,” he says. “But at the time it was also a political statement.”

Much of the history of the mural was likely lost when Naglic was found murdered in his Davisville-area home on Oct 27, 2004, and the Barn was forced to close. The Barn later reopened on Halloween in 2007.

If any local historians know more about the mural, please leave a comment below, or email andrea.houston@xtra.ca.
 


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useless
It's incredibly convenient just how little Wong-Tam seems to "allegedly" know about what's happening in the former gay village until after the fact.
Christopher King, Toronto ON
03/21/13 11:09 AM EST
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Shorter James Fowler
“As a gay man, I’m pleased that a painting of gay men was erased from history. I can only hope any new mural represents our betters.”
Joe Clark, Toronto ON
03/21/13 1:48 PM EST
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Precisely, Mr. Clark
Great summary.
fakey, Toronto ON
03/21/13 2:50 PM EST
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Clarification on a few points!
As former GM of The Barn I'd like to clarify a few points in this article. My sense of nostalgia makes me a bit sad to see the mural go but the new owners had no choice to paint as its the City of Toronto who ordered it removed. No permit was ever issued for the mural and in 2009 the City ordered it removed. We then attempted to procure a permit, the city refused and in turn threatened legal action multiple times! The heritage designation is ONLY on the north and east walls of the building not the entire building itself. The new owner does not need permission from Heritage to paint any other walls or areas and ironically had no choice but to paint the south wall because of the city! I felt compelled to post this response as it is unfair that the new owner bear the brunt of negative comments for circumstances not within his control. It is certainly sad to see it gone but hopefully something new and more reflective of our current culture will go in its place.
Russell Palloo, Toronto Ontario
03/21/13 3:00 PM EST
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Appreciated, Russell, but...
are you saying you would be perfectly fine with the mural from a gay men’s bar depicting gay men in turn being replaced by one featuring dykes, trannies, “queers,” or whatever else masquerades as “more reflective of our current culture”?
Joe Clark, Toronto ON
03/21/13 3:04 PM EST
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all gay men off queer earth now
Thank you, James Fouler, for being this year's winner of the queer who stabbed gay men in the eyes the bestest award. You win a replica of Orwell's rat facemask to use on any gay men you know who continue to use that outdated, transphobic, heteronormative, queer-cringemaking, one spirited label. How many fingers, gay men. However many you tell us, Queers. The new queer Toronto. A charnel house of quisling apparatchiks. Gay men should be made to wear a cloth badge sewn to their garments to identify their lowness to High Queers and their atendant panpolys. Perhaps a mural showing the history of the ethnic cleansing in Toronto of all bio born male genitalia by Queer could go on the former Barn -- a perfect name for a nest of gay rat beings.
coelacanth, Toronto ON
03/21/13 5:26 PM EST
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Does anyone believe anything Wong-Tam says?
Does anyone believe Wong-Tam when she says that she new nothing about this and by the time she found out it was too late? She probably wanted that wall to use as a canvas for her own pet mural project. She probably wants to see (as does her curator) a mural that is not "male-centric". She probably wants something that is "inclusive" and reflects "diversity" and lets not forget "family friendly".
Kevin, Toronto Ontario
03/22/13 2:21 AM EST
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James Fowler's comments
I agree that James Fowler's commments about removing gay male images in favour of female or trans images, are outrageous. Since James Fowler is the co-curator of Wong-Tam's upcoming mural project, it shows how ideologically caustic that mural project will be. Between QuAIA's harmful antics and the business closures on Church Street in recent years, hasn't the Toronto LGBT community had enough disruption?
Daniel, Toronto ON
03/22/13 6:33 AM EST
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LBGT Queer is not gay men indeed hates gay men
Daniel, it is LBGT that is the problem. It is an ideology of forced inclusivity with a hierarchy of oppression. In the LBGT thinking, gay men have had all the breaks and wins and now bask in their power and privilege while the lesser groups remain oppressed by the larger society but moreso by gay men. The LBGT queer men like Fowler are like white liberals in the 60s trying so hard to show blacks how much they are not racist; in this case queer men have to prove to the trans and women and other queer peoples (like hetero panpoly people who call themselves queer) so they self-flagellate in a contest to see who can shove reparations farthest up his own asshole. And it works. These men will not go to anything that is all men. It must be mixed. All brag about being totally open to tranman vag indeed some of them now worship it and have relabelled as bi (one queer male in particular is sickening on this topic). So that is the reason why the cowboys had to go. Fowler and the new queer males must bow to their LBGT queered sistren. And any non-queer gay males left (most of whom go to cocktail partied and smart restos and think all of this amusing and progressive) are oblivious, complicit or dead. Just as the Chinese Cultural Revolution used to white out people from photos and pretend they did not exist -- history can be rewritten by those in power, so too do the LBGT Queers seek to erase gay men from the LBGT history and this is one of the first times in Toronto a major public project has actually admitted that this is precisely their purpose. This Fowler is the Madame Mao of the Toronto LBGTQ gay male history revisionism. Be careful what you wish for -- the queer children of the gay revolution are now killing off those gay males with PC rhetoric and paint cans.
coelacanth, Toronto ON
03/22/13 7:55 AM EST
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not correct to change Janko's mural for politcal
While it might be politically correct to put women in the cowboy mural of Janko's ad/painting, it should not & cannot be done. (BTW Jank employed many women and once ran a lesbian bar cum restaurant on Church St. He was not mysonginist in the least but saw this ad/mural as His ideal for the Barn--a men's bar if ever there was one, lol )If the mural committee wants. Russell above is correct--I looked into the historical plaque arrangement and it was just for 19th C architechture and the front of the building on Granby. There was nothing about "gay" let alone LGBT in the designation. Nothing. So stopping the painting couldn't have happened. But since there is a mutal project, why not take the original (photographed well by Jon Lidolt in article) and reproduce it--perhaps toning down the Molson Canadian ad just a bit (that was Janko being commerical, lol, he was a businessman and the mural brought in money). The Barn complex started in the mid to late 70's (and we are now in the 2nd decade of the 21st century) --but thanks for the memories! We cannot retroactively invent a lesbian presence where there was none (the Janko mural/ad). That is re-writing history. (BTW the manager of the BArn during most of its history were straight women --even so at the time of Janko's murder. Janko had a thing for straight women, but also owned a dyke bar=Tanks. lol)
james dubro, toronto Ontario
03/22/13 8:26 AM EST
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mural painting was representative of Janko's ideal
I meant to say also the mural/ad painting was representative of Janko's ideal of an S& M light,male cowboy-themed bar which the Barn was for most of its tenure under Jank (70-2004). You cannot change that for politically correct reasons & make it inclusive of dykes or trans people retroactively. That is not history but the opposite=air brushing history like the Communists do in places like Cuba or the old Soviet Union. I am sure fowler is being well-intentioned, but you cannot air brush or create a new "history."
james dubro, toronto onyario
03/22/13 8:32 AM EST
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Another Wong-Tam
Anti-Gay Men convenient FAIL! With those Gay Male street posters gone, and now the Gay Men holding hands painting on the "heritage building" the Cultural/Ethnic CLEANSING of the GAY MAN is almost complete in the "village". UN Definition...."...At the most general level, however, ethnic cleansing can be understood as the expulsion of a population from a given territory." This includes removal of physical cultural landmarks and so forth. A little hyperbolic I concede but it's worth noting what's going on.
Jeff, Toronto ON
03/22/13 8:47 AM EST
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White Washing the Gay Man Away
from the Village. Or in this case the blackwashing/cleansing the Gay Man away. You people do know that a Mural, any Mural can be painted over? Any mural at all. At any time. .
Jules, heirarchal Diversity
03/22/13 9:00 AM EST
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where is this Fowler guy now
OK. Where is this Fowler jerk now? Someone from Xtra should get his ass on this site and respond to these condemnations of his hate-filled words. If he is to curate the history of gay and others in Toronto all over buildings and the world will see it for World Pride, then he better be willing to explain his contempt for gay men to the gay men reading this and to Toronto gay men who created the pampered queer world he lives in. Well, Fowler. Who made you Emperor and what do you have to say about it? In keeping with the Fowler revisionism how about a mural all over the old Club Toronto on Mutual St. showing the oppression of heterosexual sexuality in Toronto and how finally some rich bitch kicked out the dirty old fags and made a Platos retreat for swinger hets who are such an oppressed sexual group here. This is fucking insanity. Only in Toronto, you say. You bet.
david, Toronto ON
03/22/13 9:48 AM EST
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Pussy Palace raid(s) good LGBT incl ev to muralize
I think co-curator James Fowler (& the mural project in-group) for inclusivity (instead of changing history as implied in his comments on "gay cowboys" at Barn) might look at the raid on the Pussy Palace by Toronto cops (more than once) and maybe a mural of the great 519 meeting in which 10G was raised in 20 minutes by Olivia Chow in the Chair doing a splendid job of persuading many to part with their money for the Pussy Palace cause. Then we all--gay men, women & bi/trans marched down Church street cop HQ's in protest. The LGBT marched together for dyke/trans bathhouse night! There are many inclusive moments including the 1981 bathhhouse raids where the late & wonderful Chris Bearchill, a very prominent lesbian leader (and Body Poitic collective member) came up with the slogan "No More Shit"as a protest against the coppers. But as I said above the "gay cowboy" theme of Janko's mural is a gay male thing which might also be celebrated in the mural project which might include the raid of Remingtons and the Bijou and their fallout--all again mostly gay male raids & protests (As were the bathhouse raids of 1981). Much diversity to celebrate in mural form, and some of it can easily be just gay men under the cop guns or in action--as was often the case in history. BTW let's not demonize Fowler just yet as he may have a lot more to offer & say than this quote.
james dubro, toronto ontario
03/22/13 11:23 AM EST
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wow -- you get it now you double back and quisling
The pussy thing was an inside set up job designed by the organizers so that woman could say that they were sexually repressed by the police like men were. It was a minor blip compared to the insanity of the men's bathhouse raids (there were many). James Dubro, you are rewriting history in your typically Toronto quisling terror of leaving out any woman or trans to adhere to LBGT inclusivity ideology. Why the phoney bull that has plagued and ruined Toronto's gay "community". Why do gay men like you feel compelled to include include include while the groups you are including are busy excluding you! Pussy P was a footnote and rumours had it a set up for PR. Why reify it. What about a police raid on trans spaces -- can you please find an example or make one up so they can be included also. And a queer panpoly het example should also be invented. Thanks.
david, Toronto ON
03/22/13 12:07 PM EST
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pusy palace raids real not a set-up
The Pussy Palace was not set-up except by a very nasty guy on the Morality squad then. Rae got into a lot of trouble over it. The women & men fighting the cops "panty raid" as Rae called it to his regret later, did a great job fundraising & protesting the raids for many years. And they should be applauded. They actually won a settlement from the police force which they did not keep but redistributed to the LGBT community. I am anything but a quisling if you read my comments above re gay cowboys mural. But I have lived in the gay ghetto for over 40 years & have seen much change--more diversity being one of them. I am far from turning my backs on gay men, may of whom had led the way in the fight for gay rights & freedoms going back to dear George Hislop. There is no need to ditch lesbians & trans(&bi's) in order to celebrate gay life (the original term "gay"was a 20's word used by Gertrude Stein, a lesbian, for male & female queers. You are now re-writing history David by saying that the Pussy Palace raid(s) was a fake or set-up by inside. Shame on you! History is not to be invented, re-imagined or air-brushed by anyone. It simply is.
james dubro, toronto Ontario
03/22/13 12:22 PM EST
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you cannot ditch something that has erased you
See how touchy you get when you think someone is rewriting your history. THAT is how many of us feel about James Fowlers comments and the entire Queering of gay in its 1970-1989 meaning of gay men (lesbians being called lesbians and the rest whatever they chose). Again, you must belittle gay men by removing even the chosen label as meaning women and trans. Homosexual bio male born with penis cocksuckers man lover-fuckers who were united briefly in the 70s through AIDS until 1990 when Queer emerged and placed these men as oppressors, the outcomes of which we are still living with and talking about vis a vis this mural issue. You wear your rose coloured glasses well.
david, Toronto ON
03/22/13 1:55 PM EST
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More of the same
The village is over folks and Wong Tam has way too much to do with it. Lord, who is this person and how on earth did she get into office? Anyway, the other day I noticed that the mural was painted over. Not surprise but damn sad that the one place, the only place in the city (being the GAY Village) where gay men and woman could be themselves, in spite of all these groovy human rights and gay marriages, is all but gone. Try and be opening gay in Scarborough or anywhere north of Eglinton...may God have mercy on your sorry ass. So it is more of the same. Little by little our village is being handed over to those who largely are not gay and couldn't care less about the gay community. It is a matter of dollars and cents. Which Ms Wong Number knows all about. She could do more, we could do more...but what the hell, like swimming against the tide. Can do it for a bit but finally it is done. So much of what we took for granted is gone and forgotten. Ie: masculinity, open communication, sexuality,an opportunity to connect in an atmosphere of inclusion rather than exclusion and the opportunity to meet new like minded people when going out for the evening. Having a vibrant gay village made that possible. Mural? What mural?
Zach, Toronto Ontario
03/22/13 4:15 PM EST
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I really don’t think Dubro is doing what you claim
I don’t think James Dubro is in any way attempting to rewrite history here. And there is no homosexualist in Toronto with better sources inside the police department.
Joe Clark, Toronto ON
03/22/13 5:10 PM EST
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Fowler is Fool
That's all.
Todd, Toronto ON
03/22/13 8:55 PM EST
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This Is Outrageous
Wong-Tam claims she didn't know about the cowboy mural being removed until after the fact...and yet she is directly involved in a highly publicized street mural project. I don't buy it...and she will NEVER EVER get another vote from this constituent. Shame on her...Shame on the new owners of the The Barn....and Shame on all those who destroy art and history in the name of political correctness. I am pissed and so very saddened.
Ken, Toronto Ontario
03/22/13 10:43 PM EST
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Mistakes can be corrected
I'm surprised that no one, including Wong-Tam has taken the steps to look at properly restoring the work. If the paint is fresh enough; removal, while costly, is the least that could be done to preserve the iconic imagery beneath the current coat. This aside the current owners choice to crudely apply black paint over the mural rather than hire another artist to modify any branding by Molson shows a distinct lack of concern for the work or the community. It wouldn't have been impossible or unreasonable to match the paint colours and modify the work rather than deface it entirely. That he didn't consult the city or the community prior is also a statement for which he deserves some ire, ownership or not. But back to Wong-Tam as a city official who seems to be concerned over the look and appeal of the community I'm shocked that she hasn't consulted new owners earlier when taking over leases to discuss the appearance and choices such as this. Had she taken time to discuss with the BIA or personally met with new owners this could have been avoided. It's rather offensive for her to suggest that the work can be replaced with another "centric" image, and to imply that this is in any way a good thing. It was simply negligent, let's not sugarcoat it.
Jay, Vancouver BC
03/22/13 11:06 PM EST
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Mural project of Wong-Tam/QuAIA
I wonder if the mural project of Wong-Tam/QuAIA is going to end up like the product of the crazy lady in Italy who painted over a historical work of art in an Italian church. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4n2TsvMASY
Tim, Toronto ON
03/22/13 11:18 PM EST
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A little of the truth
I am incensed by Andrea Houston’s article regarding The Barn and the cowboy mural on the south façade of the building. If your reporter had done any proper in-depth investigation, as a responsible journalist, into the content of the piece she would have told a very different story. I purchased The Barn in mid 2007 with the hope of giving back to the community, as well as, of course, as a businessman, to perhaps profit from the venture. The community was ‘crying out’ for a return of the venue, yet they never really came back. Instead, our GM, Russell Palloo, dealt, for 5 years, with attacks from our neighbours, constant barrages from the City (including a constant request for the cowboy mural to be removed since there was never a ‘permit’ issued for it), and derision from the community and the press regarding the business we were attempting to operate. We tried very hard, and at great expense, to run a very clean, secure and responsible business for five years, with little or no support from the community, the neighbouring residents or the press. I have been a proud gay man for over 4 decades, and am disgusted that Xtra could print the mistruths and negative innuendo without proper investigation from the people who may know the whole, true story. Councilor Wong’Tam was, I believe, misquoted several times. As well, Ms. Houston was given the opportunity to contact me directly for any information I may have been willing to pass on, but she chose not to take that route. Instead she elected to print misquotes, gossip, and comments made by individuals who know not what of they speak. It is reprehensible and irresponsible for a publication to not fact-check properly before an article goes to press. To call ‘the owners homophobic’ is libelous at the very least, and an insult to me in particular. Inept journalism, for sensationalism, or to create a negative impact on any business, straight or gay, is reprehensible and an act of pure irresponsibility on the p
Michael Batterbee, Toronto Ontario
03/23/13 1:55 AM EST
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In conclusion...
...an act of pure irresponsibility on the publication's part. FYI. The Barn was never, and could never be a member of the Church Street BIA. We are not located in the catch basin. The south wall also requires a great deal of brick and pointing repair in order to maintain the integrity of the building which would have marred the mural in any event. I would expect a retracted at the very least, and believe me, should Xtra wish to print any further negatives or mistruths regarding our business, me, or anyone involved in our business, you will have our attorneys to deal with. Promise.
MICHAEL BATTERBEE, TORONTO Ontario
03/23/13 2:27 AM EST
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I see a red door
What does the alleged derision of The Barn by the community and press before it closed have to do with the appalling act of destroying this mural with no warning or remorse? Just like that it's painted black eh, history erased. This was a dick move by the way it was executed. Had the mural even been properly archived - is there a good digital print out there? I doubt it, it's probably gone forever. Painting over the mural like that was a dark and rotten thing to do. To quote the Rolling Stones: "I look inside myself and see my heart is black. I see my red door and it has been painted black. Maybe then I'll fade away and not have to face the facts. It's not easy facing up when your whole world is black."
Ryan, Toronto ON
03/23/13 8:55 AM EST
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Xtra covered Barn a lot & fairly fr 2004-7
Michael B--Over the years (ca 10 years) I've written many articles in Xtra (& "NOW") on Janko, The Barn, the historical designation (not of course covering mural or anything LGBT), the legal battles, Ivan's trial (about 20 articles online & 4/5 in Xtra(& his eventual aquittal, the-reopening. You were never made available as "a proud gay man" to me when the ownership changes happened--I tried many times & in fact I was told by RP not even to use your name or any of your partners! BTW I think you & your partners did an heroic job in fixing it up, re-opening & keeping it going for 5 yrs--and said so online when it closed in reference to Russell Palloo=the only public name associated with the Barn in print. I knew Janko for over 40 yrs as an aquaintance,a customer, a one-time client (for an ad),and a close freind of one of my longtime friends=Bob Grimson, and I patronized the Barn for over 30 yrs, and I can say that Janko worked with the community when he could or felt like it (don't forget for a time he owned property on Church street too--& ran at least 2 businesses there-the old Tanks and a restaurant near the current Eagle). The ad/mural BTW is of course re-doable or salvagable (hopefully as I said with out the large Molson ad). As an artifact of a gay male legendary western-themed bar that has been there since the mid 70's in one form or another (Cavaliers, JoJo's, Barn, and your wonderful re-opening with Russell as Manager who did the best he could & valiantly kept it going for 5 yrs). And emphasis on gay male (only women involved were Janko's managers for years & some staff). No need to add female icons to Janko's mural. That can be done with other events to be commemorated. The complaints from neighbours was always one of Janko's problems over the yrs & he did his best--as I am sure you did Michael and other owners (still secret) to appeaase them & answer their concerns (Janko added a lot of s
james dubro, toronto ontario
03/23/13 8:55 AM EST
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what article are you reading Mr B?
After re-reading this article I don't see where it ever even mentions Mr Batterbee at all so I don't understand his rant but I do agree that the Mural needed a lot of work. It was faded probably chipping and needed some serious touchups which would cost big dollars. Just painting over the lower part leaves some questions but nothing surprises me these days.
jaydub, hammertown ont
03/23/13 8:56 AM EST
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there is NO libel of Barn's owner, Xtra has been
sound absorbers for noise at Neighbourhood association request & worked with the McGill/Granby Resident's association for years. There is no rrason the threaten & try to intimafde Xtra or Houston as there is no libel or malice in the article here (or in previous articles I did or Houston did that I can see) and no malice. as to the new owners I simply don't know except they covered the mural with paint which of course was within their rights with or without approval from anyone including Wong-Tam for as you stated correctly the ad/mural was NOT protected in any way by any historical or other designation. I comes down to sentiment, nostalgia & taste. It can be re-produced if necessary in some way. I think Xtra, at least in what I wrote, tried to be very supportive of the Barn business in it many incarnations since Janko's tragic murder (esp before your hush-hush,not to be named group bought it in 2007), & it is simply wrong to dump all over it for never being supportive. BTW I am a freelancer & not an Xtra employee but a fairly well known writer & journalist in Toronto (mostly re crime) , proudly & openly gay for over 35 yrs. Michael pls don't look for fall guys (Xtra, neighbours, community) for the B's demise-it had a v. good run for almost 40 yrs (unprecedented). Calm down re Houston's article-it can be updated & modified as need be I am sure.
james dubro, toronto ontario
03/23/13 9:14 AM EST
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Intimidation doesn't work & is NOT nice
As someone who has been a longtime journalist dealing with many controversial subjects I think I can say to you Mr MB to not threaten lawsuits or try to intimidate the press. The reaction is usually the opposite from what you intend as intimidation & threats do not work. Xtra did not kill the Barn or the mural (nor the community or the neighbours) but is merely trying to report things as the reporter sees it. No malice at all btw. If you were available to talk with Houston I am more than sure she would have been delighted for the input as she is a hard-working reporter who likes as much input as possible. I answered what I could from what I know. I cannot speak to Fowler's odd point about the mural being too male homocentric except that you cannot whitewash or brush out history and recreate it in your new constructed image & get away with it. There are too many of us around who were there in the 70's--90's(and before. (BTW Wong-Tam & Xtra should have known there was nothing re the mural or that wall or even anything gay mentioned in historical designation as I wrote 2 articles in Xtra on that designation in 2005-6 I think). It is all there.
james dubro, toronto Ontario
03/23/13 9:30 AM EST
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OMG, what a fuss!
That beer ad was an eyesore. I must have walked by it thousands of times and never found anything remotely inspiring about those two fat-assed cowboys. Even after reading the foregoing comments, this old queen still can't understand the concern over that ad being painted over. I say, good riddance.
Michael, Toronto Ontario
03/23/13 12:53 PM EST
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eyesore/historical significance
lol Michael I think you more or less right except for the historical reality of the ad/mural done way before Brokeback Mountain"--it is the male gay western cowboy image made public & up there in big size that was the reason it might be considered for one of the historical murals. Neighbours complained more about the ad than anything else as I recall (not homphobic but anti such in your face commercialism for Molson Canadian). And women should not be added to the mural if it is reproduced as that would change the historical reality--that's all. But it was never covered by "historical designation". That was for only the front part on Granby for its distinctive 19th century architechture (also a little dubious for preservation but it was used to keep the building so a new bar could open there without tearing down the old one). As it is buildings will remain with new businesses in them (including a restaurant) which is great after 40 yrs. I will not write anymore online on this, but let Andrea update the fuller picture as the city has wanted the mural down for years for non homophobic reasons, mostly. RIP Janko Naglic!!
james dubro, toronto ontario
03/23/13 1:15 PM EST
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Mural Destruction
It's also interesting to consider that this mural has been eradicated approximately the same time that the developers who are building an ugly condo tower directly across the street at Church/McGill (365 Church)have begun a major sales push for their units. Are developers now dictating the "cleaning up" (read "de-gayification") of our neighbourhood in order to entice potential buyers and investors?? Just wonderin'...
Ken, Toronto Ontario
03/23/13 2:26 PM EST
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@ Michael Batterbee
I am curious. Are you still the owner of the Barn? The story implies that there is a new owner? If you are still the owner is it true that Wong-Tam contacted you and asked that the painting over of the mural be halted? You say Wong-Tam was misquoted. Where are the misquotes?
Kevin, Toronto Ontario
03/25/13 2:22 AM EST
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