The Barn closes for good
TORONTO NEWS / Popular nightclub may reopen under new ownership
Andrea Houston / Toronto / Saturday, August 11, 2012
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After more than 20 years, Toronto gay club The Barn/Stables has cleared its dancefloor for good.

General manager Russell Palloo, who has worked at the bar for five years, says it’s time for The Barn to take a bow. The bar hosted a farewell party on Aug 8.

“The Barn is closed for good,” he says. “It has come to a point where it has had its run. Unfortunately, it’s not something we can actually market anymore. The places where people go out have changed, their desires have changed, and unfortunately, The Barn is not something that can keep up with those desires anymore."

Toronto has many choices for gay folks looking for a night out, and Palloo says The Barn had a difficult time competing for partiers.

College Night on Wednesdays has always been a moneymaker, but the weekends just were not profitable, he says. “This is not the environment people want to go out in . . . It would need significant, significant, renovation in order to keep up.”
The Barn closed on Aug 8.
(Andrea Houston)


Palloo would not say what the cost would be to update and renovate The Barn.

Although the bar is closed, the property has not yet been sold, Palloo says, noting a local person is currently negotiating a deal to take over the business.

The prospective buyer is interested in reopening the space as a nightclub.

Palloo, who has been at the reins since The Barn reopened in 2007 under its current owners, expects the deal to be finalized in the fall. He also hopes to stay on and manage the business when it opens under new ownership.

“I was a patron of The Barn for years,” he says. “I am sad to see it come to an end because it is a landmark in our community, but at the same time, as a business person and a patron, I’m happy to see it go out with dignity.”

Palloo says he is heartened knowing a future hotspot will replace The Barn. The new club will not bear the same name.

“There’s been strong reaction already from the community,” he says. “People are sad to see it go, but it’s not the end for the actual space. People are happy to hear there will be something in its place.”

The Barn first opened in the 1980s, Palloo says. The nightclub then closed in 2004 after its original owner, Janko Naglic, was found dead in his Davisville-area home on Oct 27, 2004

The death led to a homicide investigation and, eventually, a murder trial.

The Barn reopened on Halloween in 2007.

Inside The Barn, staff added a moving tribute to Naglic; his black-and-white portrait now graces the mantel of the first-floor fireplace.

In 2008, after a month-long trial, a jury acquitted Ivan Mendez-Romero, Naglic’s longtime lover.
 


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Reader Comments


 
at this rate
There won't be anything left of the gay village for World Pride 2014 Chances are good some corporation offered big money for the site, because back when I used to be there on Saturday nights the whole place was packed.
Christopher King, Toronto ON
08/11/12 5:26 PM EST
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RIP
It's hard to imagine Toronto's gay life without The Barn. For many of us it was a part of our world for many years.
Jim, Toronto Ontario
08/12/12 11:28 AM EST
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Here's Why The Barn Bit The Dust...
Here's why The Barn went broke. Mr. Palloo had no interest or abilities to make the older crowd feel welcome at all (you know that established demographic that paid the rent at the Barn for over 30 years) Instead everything was modified exclusively and stupidly for the younger crowd, "Chicken" that acted rich but never had any money (outside that of which they tricked through the OLDER employed and affluent crowd of gay people which now makes up a majority of the population of the village.) If Russell wasn't such a Chicken Hawk putting his own interests aside and concentrating on where the real profit (could have) come from, the place might have had a chance.
Daniel Menardino, Toronto Ontario
08/13/12 1:23 AM EST
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nothing lasts forever; Barn a legendary gay instit
The Barn was started by the late Janko Naglic as Jo-Jo's in 1975 (with a restaurant/bar called Les Cavaliers downstairs). It was re-named the Barn and the Stables in the late 70's, over 30 years ago (not 20 years ago as reported above). No matter who buys the building the outside of the building has to be preserved as it has a historical designation because of its unique late 19th century architecture. So if a new owner does not re-open as a bar, it cannot be torn down to make way for a condo without incorporating the original structure. I think Palloo did much to revive it five years ago after Naglic's estate sold the building and the business to three investors and keep it going as a gay bar for so long. for that Palloo should be applauded. It was very much a 70's, 80's and 90's dance bar and its re-invention by its post Janko Naglic owners and Paloo to a 21st century bar was a valiant effort to keep a legendary gay institution going. But nothing lasts forever and the Barn has had a very good run of well over 30 years. RIP Janko and the old Barn--you shall always be remembered. (BTW Janko's 2004 murder is still "officially" unsolved.)
james dubro, Toronto ontario
08/13/12 5:43 PM EST
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Reply to Daniel Menardino
Its very easy for someone to sit back and pass judgment when they make assumptions and feel they know what the situation is. Firstly, no one has said The Barn went broke. Our decision to close is quite simple the product is no longer marketable in 2012 going forward. When we opened in 2007 it was with the hope and intention of giving The Barn back to the community circa the years of Janko Naglic. We very quickly realized that we fell into the same challenges he was facing before his passing which was extremely reduced attendance. We brought the old barn talent back in to try and appease the old Barn crowd and it was clearly evident that the old Barn crowd was no longer going out and attending as often. It was no longer viable to keep our business plan in this direction as we had poor attendance. After almost 2 years of trying to encourage the old Barn crowd back we had no choice but to then switch gears and target the audience that was in fact now supporting the bars and clubs in the village and that's the younger demographic. If doing so makes me a "Chicken Hawk" then I guess I am. The problem with people such as yourself Mr Menardino is that you all feel that everything should stay as is and be there when YOU are ready for it! The Barn should be as it was in the 80s and 90s and should stay that way while you stay at home and on the odd occasion that you decide to venture out on a Saturday night it should be there waiting for you as you remember it. I as a club Operator am faced with the same challenges as all of the other establishments in the village. That challenge being to keep things alive while going through the transition of an aging gay population in the area who DO NOT go out often enough to support the economic dynamic of the business in the CW Village. That sir is a fact. We have all had to re-tool our thinking and cater to those who though having less disposable income support what is theirs. I can't say the s
Russell Palloo, Toronto Ontario
08/13/12 9:39 PM EST
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Reply to Daniel Menardino
the same of your demographic. You also do not have the right to defame my good name and character on a public profile because you think you can. I sir have been going out in this community for 20 years. I've been involved in it just as long and have been providing a source of entertainment to people in various establishments around for over 8 years. I have been unselfish in my motivations and have done whatever I can to help and support various organizations and individuals in the community as the General Manager of The Barn and as Russell Palloo. So don't you dare pass judgement on me, pass judgement on yourself for being a judgemental and ignorant ass for writing such garbage!
Russell Palloo, Toronto Ontario
08/13/12 9:53 PM EST
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BARN- was a lengend
I would like to say thanks to the Pallo for his attempt at keeping one of the most wonderful places alive. I could not imagine what went wrong. That does not matter now. I want to talk about the great times I had there, some of the best friendships, experiences, and it was place I always felt I could be myself. The drunk nights at the BARN; and all the fun I will miss. I think the demographic has changed significantly. - Maybe new DJS; or a new lighting system could have made this place survive? - who knows- I think it could have. When I look at Zippers, a place that is so run down, it could have snatched the crowds over to the BARN. Regardless the BARN played a big role on my Saturday nights, and I will miss it. I think of the Barn and former Club Toronto; both of which had a huge role in our community, and regardless of what happened; I look forward to see what will now happen at that location. I remember so many fun times, at the BARN and will miss it allot.
Matt, toronto ont
08/14/12 12:27 PM EST
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BARN RIP
The Barn was the first gay bar I ever stepped foot in, and the first I ever picked up in (not on the same night!). That was 12 years ago. After they reopened following Janko's death, the new owners forced people into long lineups every time they wanted to move from floor to floor. Nobody in their right mind would put up with that, and ultimately I think that's what killed the space for many of the former clientele. Still, it's a shame to see it go -- hopefully the loss is temporary, and the new owners don't screw it up. Let's hope they keep the back room too :)
Paul, Toronto ON
08/14/12 1:45 PM EST
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Sayonara Barn
Like many people, I was delighted when The Barn re-opened a few years ago. But my delight turned to shit when I was told by staff I HAD to check my leather jacket before entering the dance area. I took a hike instead - and never went back, preferring to spend my $$$ elsewhere. Never EVER tell a leatherman to shed his hide. I'll be sad to see the cowboy/beer mural go however. Another condo - here we come.
Ken, Toronto Ontario
08/14/12 4:42 PM EST
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What did you expect
Russel practically chased all the male over 30's crowd away. Making the Barn, once the best place to cruse and party, a place for boys and straight girls. Who by the way have no damn money. Honestly what an idiot. I contacted him many times trying to convince him to get the crowd who made the Barn a success back. Nope he wouldn't change a thing. He wanted twinks. No leather or denim, non of that. Over lit dance floor, trans music. brutal security, unfriendly staff, mandatory this and that. Oh and Russel, don't try and claim you tried to get the old crowd back. You could not have tried harder to make sure the venue was completely unwelcoming for the old Barn patrons. We did try and come back. The place could not have been more different. So shove it. You tried to pull that justification crap on me as well. It didn't fly then and it won't fly now.
Zach, Toronto Ontario
08/14/12 4:51 PM EST
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A note to the new owners
If the place is indeed sold, then the new owners should note that the old Barn patrons have not gone away and would love a place where they could hang, Make the place friendly to the leather denim crowd. Make the venue accessible without Airport like security being shoved up your ass. Turn the lights down and make the music fun not tribal. Get rid of that mandatory coat check and let the party begin. If you need examples look at Zipperz no hassle environment. The Black Eagle is another example. Let the men of our community have a place they can just relax in and be themselves. The village needs it. Older guys are stable and loyal customers. If the place is yet again turned over to the younger crowd, the same thing will happen. That demographic rhetoric that Russell uses is crap but sounds good on paper. So listen up!
Zach, Toronto Ontario
08/14/12 5:50 PM EST
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I didn't feel welcome at the new Barn either
I didn't feel welcome at the Barn either after it changed management. One night some retarded doorman asked me for ID, when I looked clearly older than him. I told I don't need to show him ID because we live in a democratic country not in the USA. Then he accused me of being drunk to prevent me from going in. A barman on break told him to shove and took me in as his guest. The atmosphere changed with new management.
George, Toronto Ont
08/15/12 12:42 AM EST
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Reply to George and Menardino
So true on all counts. Hopefully an owner who knows what they are doing will take over.
Dave, Toronto Ont.
08/15/12 5:23 PM EST
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Curious
George, Dave, Dante, Ken.... Out of genuine curiosity, how does one market a bar to an "older" demographic? Specifically speaking. i.e. decor, music, events...?
DJC, Toronto Ontario
08/16/12 9:06 AM EST
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Why is Zippers full?
The real question is why is Zippers packed? WHY? We know its not the decor, but the question you need to ask is why.- 1. They have good music 2. They have a no BS door entry. NO cover guys. I am not sure why in hell The Barn refused to stop doing this is beyond me.- While the FLY charges a cover, you have a totally different environment; but you are paying for the light show- something the barn clearly does not have.- not sure why this was never upgraded. Even Zippers BTW has better lighting; with the laser lights. 3. Ask yourself why Sundays at Zippers with retro 80's- BTW is a great hit- why is it packed? Bottom line, I loved the Barn - but I stopped going because the door charge was outrageous ; and security always shut down floors.- The music sucked, and there was no lights on the dance floor. Do not tell me its because we dont want to go. The barn is HUGE< and it use to be the place to go outside of the FLY. but when you charge a door charge, and have no lights; horrible tribal music, - not dance music, horrible lighting, and you charge a door charge, and have the worst security ever -thats the reason. Ask WHY zippers is full every weekend? WHY is that? i just stated above. - Hopefully the new owners can reverse this.
matt, toronto ont
08/16/12 11:11 AM EST
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how does one market a bar to older demographic?
“how does one market a bar to an "older" demographic?" 1. No BullShit at the door --no power-trips by doormen 2. No entry fee unless it's a special event 3. No ID hassles unless you really look underage. HELPUL, FRIENDLY -GAY- STAFF and FRIENDLY GAY SECURITY. Music one can dance to. Some interesting lighting on the dance-floor. Some quiet spaces for conversation. General easy going atmosphere.
Joe, TO ON
08/16/12 1:08 PM EST
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And HISTORY is reminded
As the Barn closes it's doors, I remember when the QUEST was on young street, and Bemelmens was on Bloor Street ... all these legends are passing onto history ... I can never forget how much of those places shaped some of my views, and how also they also made me pause and ask the important questions such as IS this really right for me ... WITH OUT SHAME ... I am happy that the BARN was a part of my formitive years of growing up as a Gay guy ! I did make some real friends along the way from the BARN days. Maybe from the far shores of Europe today, I wave my hat with THANK YOU ! for being a part of my history!
Johanness-Poul, used to be in Toronto Ontario
08/24/12 3:22 PM EST
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The Barn, just a building
I don’t agree with those who think the Barn should be kept the way it is or “incorporated into a future condo project”. The building has been on the verge of collapsing for years, has no real historical or architectural value and frankly, it’s not even THAT good looking. There are two things we have to stop doing: 1-Be all mushy and overly sentimental every time a so-called old building is demolished, UNLESS it has some architectural merit. 2-Stop incorporating old building facades into glass towers, like was done at the north-east corner of Yonge and Queen and more recently to the newly-completed Murano Condos on Bay street. It’s an idiotic way to approach architecture and it only preserves buildings that are not even worth keeping. While we’re on the subject, I would add that the adjacent buildings should always be taken into consideration. I cringe every time I look at what was done to the 519, when the built that ultramodern addition. Who the heck approves such monstrosities at City Hall?
Chris, Toronto On
08/31/12 1:14 PM EST
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NO
I will miss it. Back in the day I sucked so much cock in that building. Good times.
Rocky, toronto on
10/29/12 3:05 PM EST
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