Should the Pride parade move off Yonge to Jarvis?
TORONTO NEWS / Pride Toronto says the change would provide more space
Andrea Houston / Toronto / Tuesday, December 11, 2012
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Pride Toronto (PT) is considering taking its annual parade down Jarvis Street instead of Yonge Street next year, says executive director Kevin Beaulieu.

Beaulieu says the idea has been suggested in the past and now the board is giving it serious consideration.

“It’s possible,” he says. “It would mean a number of changes to the length of the route. There are some pros and some cons. It’s a more open and wide street. It’s less busy, less commercial . . . Some people like the idea.”

It would be a significant change, Beaulieu says, and consultation with the community would need to happen before any change takes effect. “We would do that early to explain to the community why and give people a chance to express their support or objections.”

The main benefit in moving to Jarvis would be the increase in street size, he says.
Pride Toronto executive director Kevin Beaulieu.
(Andrea Houston (file photo))


“Jarvis is a more open street. It’s less confined. Pride has grown quite big. It’s very large and it takes quite a long time to walk down Yonge Street,” he says. “It would just open things up a little bit more and make it less of a compressed atmosphere.”

Pride first used Yonge Street for the parade in 1991. Previously, the parade route followed Church Street. Prior to that, Lesbian and Gay Pride Day was held in Grange Park in 1982, King's College Circle in 1983 and Cawthra Park from 1984 to 1986.

“The parade moved around the city a number of times before finding a home on Yonge Street,” says activist and journalist James Dubro, who remembers attending a gay march at Hanlan’s Point in 1971, organized by Toronto Gay Action, which is now considered the first Toronto Pride event.

“Are we [considering a move to Jarvis] for the gay community or the straight community?” Dubro asks.

Gerald Hannon, another long-time queer activist and journalist, says moving the parade to Jarvis takes the march off Toronto’s main street.
Toronto Pride has been marching down Yonge Street since 1991. The board is now considering a move to Jarvis Street.
(Adam Coish (file photo))


“That would certainly take it out of sight,” he says. “We’d be much less visible on Jarvis.”

Scott Dagostino, manager at Glad Day Bookshop on Yonge Street, says there is something symbolic and powerful about marching on Yonge.

“Obviously, Glad Day Bookshop enjoys its long-time perch at the nexus of Toronto Pride,” he says. “But more importantly, watching the queer community take over the city's longest, most central and arguably most important street has always felt like a victory. Moving to Jarvis would dilute that.

“Then again, given the recent debacle with removing the bike lanes, perhaps Jarvis is more essential than I thought,” he jokes.

Dubro also worries that Yonge Street businesses would object to the loss of tourism dollars that Pride brings in every year.

“I love that it’s on Yonge Street and that there’s all these thousands of people filling the street, because that’s the point,” he says. “Moving it doesn’t grab me as necessary. If something’s not broke, you don’t have to fix it.”
 


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No
Keep Pride on Yonge. To take it to Jarvis from Yonge feels like you are taking it off main street and putting it in suburbia.
Jeff, Toronto On
12/11/12 7:40 PM EST
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Bad Move
Moving to Jarvis means less visibility. The whole point of the parade is to occupy space, en masse, that normally is not occupied and queer positive. Leave what works and don't mess with a good thing.
JP, Toronto Ontario
12/11/12 7:47 PM EST
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Keep Mainstream
Keep this very important part of the Toronto fabric in the mainstream. The world's longest street. There is something to be said about the intimacy of the narrow street when walking in the parade. I've walked it for 3 years running and love it!
Kirk, Toronto Ontario
12/11/12 8:09 PM EST
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Jarvis? Really?
Worst. Idea. Ever.
Russel Seyfried, Toronto Ontario
12/12/12 8:48 AM EST
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Bad idea
Leaving Yonge would mean hiding the parade. Is this what the gay community wants to do? We should be proud! We shouldn't hide our community. We should be on Yonge.
John Dunbar, Toronto Ontario
12/12/12 9:31 AM EST
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Why!?!
Hey PT! If you find the route too long, don't start the parade at Bloor. Going down Younge or Jarvis is the same distance, HELLO!!! Do the math,oh boy! Jarvis is BOOOOORING !
Max Gibbons, Toronto Ontario
12/12/12 10:16 AM EST
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if you're going to move the parade
Put it back on Church Street
Christopher King, Toronto ON
12/12/12 11:20 AM EST
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Move the Gay Village
Actually it is the gay village which needs to be moved. The present gay village is simply much too small to fully accommodate the GLB community in Toronto and especially it in no way reflects the non-Anglo ethnic diversity of Toronto. Increasingly it is ethnic energy which drives this city and that pathetic little excuse for a gay village at Church and Wellesley simply no longer reflects that ethnic energy except on Pride weekend. All those people that show up normally stay away from the gay village because there is nothing for them there and they get turned off by the informal Anglo-Torontonian apartheid system which usually prevails on Church St but they do show up for the Pride weekend and then it becomes rather obvious that the place is much too small to accommodate the full GLB community in Toronto. Montreal has a much smaller population and a much smaller and ethnically more homogenous GLB community but it manages to support Le Village Gai which runs 2km along both sides of rue St Catherine Est so Toronto really needs something similar. However the old gay greybeards of Church St and Pride Toronto certainly will never be the ones to make that happen.
Cinderella, Toronto Ontario
12/12/12 6:34 PM EST
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@ Cinderella
Gay and Lesbian Torontonians no longer require a ghetto to feel at home in this city. They've spread their wings to various other diverse neighbourhoods. Church St. is the first vibrant gay/lesbian neighbourhood in the city. The direction of a thriving community is not in the hands of Gay Pride or any "greybeards". Good business attracts good customers. Customers come and go and the demographics of neighbourhoods change as well.
Peter, Toronto ON
12/12/12 11:05 PM EST
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What does QuAIA want?
The Pride board will do whatever QuAIA wants. They serve QuAIA.
Jay, Toronto ON
12/13/12 12:02 AM EST
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Congrats on diversity of sources quoted
I gather Ken Popert was out at lunch and could not be reached for comment?
Joe Clark, Toronto ON
12/13/12 4:04 PM EST
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NOOOOO
NOOOO LEAVE THE PARADE ON YONGE...
Joe, Toronto Ontario
12/13/12 7:21 PM EST
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We are the Big Time now
We are so big now that Yonge can't realy accomodate us any more.Pride in Toronto is also very expensive for those on a budget. The poor miss out on most of the activities. Those on OW should be getting discounts. Yonge and Wellsley is positively dangerous at parade. We need a place where adults can sit for the day. We can't stand all day anymore like the kids. The hotels are all booked up. The grocery store is a definite plus. What about renting maple leaf gardens now? We also need a five dollar admission charge. There is really no accomodating the elderly either. There should be a lot more bathrooms and seating along Church Street. We need to invite more prominent politicians (exept the scum Ford Brothers) and have a special place for them at the events.
Bryan charlebois, Toronto Ontario
12/14/12 12:34 PM EST
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Bad Idea
Leave it on Yonge...
Anon, Toronto Ontario
12/21/12 12:12 AM EST
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Pride should leave Canada
Pride left Canada when you criminalized HIV. Literally, millions of men are rolling in their graves. This community is a sham when it stigmatizes and discriminates. The Canadian justice system and the Supreme Court are a complete human rights disgrace. You should skip being proud this year. Proud of what that you persecute people with HIV.
No Justice, York Ontario
12/22/12 10:54 PM EST
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