Queers turn up the volume on Proud FM ire
TORONTO NEWS / Manager, fired employees break their silence
Scott Dagostino / Toronto / Wednesday, May 12, 2010
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Shaun Proulx
(photo by Scott Dagostino)
“What kind of bird-brained business decides to fire the majority of their on-air staff in one day and not expect a massive public backlash?” asks party promoter Matt Sims, one of over a thousand people who’ve signed on to the Facebook page, “Proud FM: The Shame of Toronto.”

The queer-themed radio station abruptly fired on-air hosts Shaun Proulx, Deb Pearce, Mark Wigmore and Patrick Marano on May 5th and now faces an uprising from angry fans who feel the straight-owned station has betrayed the queer community.

One fan on Twitter linked to Proud FM’s sponsor page, pointedly noting, “radio lives and dies by advertisers.”

Lesbian dance performer Nancy Rancourt sent a letter sent to the station, which she also posted online.

“Proud 103.9 FM abruptly fired our Fantastic Four and I strongly feel it is my personal, professional, and social responsibility to take a stand as a person, an artist, and community member.”

Calling her campaign “Loyalties OUTweigh Royalties,” Rancourt has pulled all her present and future singles from the station and urges other musicians to do the same.

As the disapproval at Proud FM’s decision has increased in volume this past week, both the “Fantastic Four” and the Proud FM management have remained relatively silent — the first group consulting with employment lawyers, the second bound by human resources ethical and legal rules — but now, both camps are beginning to speak.

Shaun Proulx issued a statement to Xtra on behalf of the former employees.

“Many of the practices at the station have been a growing concern for us, and we have not been happy with certain requests that were being made as the voices of Proud FM and the lesbian, gay, bi and trans community. As a group, we are very concerned with the direction the station is headed on many levels. After seeking a standard meeting with management about these issues, our employment was unexpectedly terminated with what Proud FM is calling ‘cause.'”

Operations manager Bruce Campbell won’t reveal what was said in that meeting but says the firings “came about as the result of significant differences between management and the affected individuals as to how the business and administration of the station — both on-air and commercially — should be conducted. When it became apparent that these differences could not be resolved and would continue to adversely affect the station — both the on-air product and its administration on a day-to-day basis — we had to make a business decision.”

Campbell is well aware of how controversial that decision has been. 

“Oh, I’ve received some email,” he says, “but frankly, I’d be disturbed if I wasn't getting any email — would mean nobody cared. People are upset and I appreciate why they’re upset. Nobody here, especially me, takes any joy in this. Every chance I got, I repeatedly told these people — all four of them — that I respected their talent and their abilities on air. They connected with our audience, they reflected our community, they were entertaining. This decision was not taken lightly.”

That said, however, Campbell points out that such firings are commonplace in radio. 

“There are stations that have changed entire formats, the entire staff, in one day,” he says but, after a heavy sigh, he concedes the point that this is actually the third multiple firing in the station’s history, following dismissals in 2007 that included popular hosts Maggie Casella, Lisa Marshall and Richard Ryder.

“What’s the choice here?” Campbell says, “Let this thing continue to deteriorate completely or move forward? As difficult as it is, Proud FM will continue to move forward and hopefully be better. The people who remain here today are just as talented as the people who just left.”

Richard Ryder is in the unique position of having been fired from Proud FM in 2007 and then rehired about a year later. At the time, he says, “the people who fired me were all the straight people who were certainly giving the impression that Proud FM was not going to remain a gay station for long. They had a straight guy from Woodbridge and a straight guy from Italy who didn’t speak English making the calls. We’re still untying knots from that time.”

Now hosting the mid-day show, Ryder says he’s mystified by what happened, especially given his relationship with the current management.

“I really respect Bruce Campbell and [program director] Bob Willette. They’ve been very good to me and really supportive of my stand-up career but I told them to their faces that they made a huge mistake in firing Shaun and Mark. I think they have.”

Ryder says “certain requests” drove his fellow hosts to confront the management, but it's a mystery to him, though he thinks their different workloads were the cause.

“‘The Shaun Proulx Show’ and the breakfast show are both live. They have far different concerns than my show and Miss Conception’s show which are pre-taped.” Coming in for only a couple hours a day to tape his show, Ryder says, insulated him from “office bullshit” and he didn’t see the dispute coming. “Shaun and Patrick and I are friends and I was over at their house the Saturday before and they said nothing to me and I later thanked him for it. It wasn’t that I didn’t want to know but this is the environment we work in.”

Pearse Murray also hosts a pre-taped show on the station and, like Ryder, didn’t see the firings coming. After retiring from a real-estate career at 65, Murray became “the world’s oldest intern” at the station, he laughs, and, “Shaun and Deb were extremely helpful to me when I started.” 

Whatever concerns Proulx and the others had with management, Murray says, are unknown to him but he hazards a guess.

“I’m not privy to all the information,” says Murray, “but there were a lot of emails back and forth from Deb and Shaun and I’d heard that they wanted more money. Most places these days, not just Proud FM, aren’t giving anyone raises because they’re trying to recover.”

Campbell, again, won’t comment on this but Ryder says of course money is an issue. Currently subbing for Pearce and Marano in the breakfast slot, Ryder says finding a new host will take a while.

“They can’t afford it. Even people without experience in radio hear what they’re offering and say, ‘Are you kidding?’” With his other gigs at OUTtv and hosting a Wednesday night show at Zelda’s, Ryder says, “I make more money outside of Proud FM than I do here.”

Also, Ryder says, “A morning show is a different beast and ours has plagued from the get-go. Mary-Jo Eustace left, then Ken Kostick left, then Deb Pearce came in and they couldn’t keep a producer with her. With Shaun, he’s such a professional and for him to request to meet with people and for them not to, I still have a problem with that and I don’t understand why they wouldn’t.”

As the leader of an artist protest against the station, Nancy Rancourt insists, “If the station had let go of one host, I might buy into the story of professional differences but to fire all of them, without notice? That is cutthroat disrespect. It’s like bullies kicking kids out of the playground and it leaves the masses with no alternative but to say, ‘what the fuck?’”

Proud FM, Rancourt says, has “taken us all out to dinner and left us with the bill.”

But Rancourt’s narrative of a queer community rising up against an evil, corporate, straight-owned station frustrates Murray.

“All these people on Facebook forget that there’s eight or nine other people working at that station who make their livelihood there and only a couple of them are straight,” he says.

Ryder agrees.

“We got comments on that Facebook page about [interim weekday hosts] Sabrina and Bob being straight people but they’ve always been here, hosting on weekends. NOW you have a problem with them?” he laughs, “No one mentions that me and Miss Conception are still employees here because it nullifies this idea that [the station is] gay-bashing,” says Ryder. “No, they’re not!”

“Damage control,” says Rancourt, “The station is realizing it needs to keep massaging that angle, using our community to validate their goal of a stronger signal. Once the station has all its ducks in a row, I totally foresee them abandoning the community.”

Not true, says Campbell.

“This station is vibrant and unique and will continue to be,” he insists, “There’s no change in the orientation of the station, there’s no change in the committment to the community.”

If anything, Campbell says, the firings “allow us to restructure and to allow other tremendously talented people to come forward. I’ve already had inquiries from people wanting to work on the air.”

Reiterating his respect for Proulx, Pearce, Wigmore and Marano, Campbell says, “Each and every one of us is indispensible, it’s true, but none of us are irreplaceable. That’s just a fact of life. So we’re going to move forward.”

In these interviews, both Campbell and Proulx have each said, “When one door closes, another door opens,” but it’s the unemployed man who sounds more relieved.

“There’s a level of sleaze that has been part of the station since we’ve all worked there and it feels really nice to have that gone, even though we obviously loved doing the show,” says Proulx.

“I don’t consider myself to be sleazy,” says Campbell, “I can’t control how they characterize our relationship but I’m pretty transparent. They are no secrets. Everybody here gets to see the sales numbers.”

The station, he says, has been running a deficit for three years now but in 2009, ”we doubled our revenue and this year, in a fairly daunting economy, Proud FM is right on track to achieve a 25 percent revenue increase on top of that. We need to continue that arc towards profitability.”

“I think Bruce has always been very fair and forthcoming,” says Murray,

Ultimately, Ryder says, “I’m willing to maintain the listenership that we worked so hard to get, but I won’t work here forever either. People move on, people change. The anger people are feeling is justified and understandable but it hasn’t changed anything here behind the scenes. We’re still a gay station, we’re still playing the music we’ve been playing, the same people who worked behind the scenes are all still here.”

The firings, he says, were “a horrible thing but I think by Pride, it’ll all be smoothed out and people will be fabulously happy again. 

Ryder’s prediction, however, is undercut by the final line of Proulx’s statement, “A lawsuit is imminent and more extensive details will be released in the coming days.”

All Proud FM is concerned with now, Campbell insists, is their rocky present and brighter future.

“We’re in scramble mode here,” he says, noting all the hosting duties Bob Willette has taken on the interim.

“The station on air should certainly reflect the various elements of our community so absolutely, anyone who’s interested in working in broadcasting should apply....this an opportunity for something fresh and new.”


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Reader Comments


 
Trusting management? NOT!
About eight years ago, while still being employed by some of the major broadcasting corporations in this country, I began carrying an mp3 recorder in my pocket. I recorded every meeting with my "superiors" and then downloaded them on my computer at home, In one instance, this resulted in a much better termination settlement than was offered. In Canada, only one person needs to give consent to make a recording. That person is you. Then there is no argument about what was said. EVILNOV wants to make this station an embedded repeater for one of it's other properties. It's up to the CRTC to hold them to their Promise of Performance, a community station serving the GLBT community.
Mike Cleaver, Vancouver BC
05/12/10 5:01 PM EST
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Who are you kidding????
My take on this.....The twit who is left is oblivious to the fact once the signal is increased he to will be out on his ass....and from where i sit rightfully so. You stick together buddy..and if you say your not there for the money..then you should of left as well. We have long memories...and to dis us as a community is to bring our ire..and yes...you will not be above it now as you have so obviously put your cards on the table..To think your station will survive is well..poppycock!!!!
Glenn Thompson, Barrie On
05/12/10 7:55 PM EST
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Bye Bye Proud FM
An other example of yet an other business treating our community like a bank machine. They talk the talk and walk the walk for a while. Then, once they get our support, they turn and just do what ever they like, and hide behind the rainbow flag… with the idea that we will follow regardless. Talking to friends, many of us have had enough. Based on some basic math and the concept of 10%, there are roughly 670,000 GLBT people who work and live in the Golden Horseshoe area. With that number comes power and with increasing pressure on our community from many different angles, it’s time we make it work for us. We can do business, shop, eat, listen and vote for those people and companies who not only appear to support us, but who really have our back. Well Proud FM, it’s been nice, but I will not be back. To the magic four, will miss you and may this just be a blip in your fabulous careers. I know you all “have our backs” and always will!
David Thompson, Toronto Ontario
05/12/10 9:26 PM EST
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Is this thing on?
I have been in the radio business for over 25 years, the past number of years working for one of this countries largest broadcasting companies. Trust me, even the big guys are going for the "recorded show" thing. That is pay someone peanuts to come in for an hour to voice track their show and make it sound like they might even be there. Hell this can be done from four provinces over even. The suits are all worried about the pennies coming in , people are just a distraction and quite frankly a nuisance. Very sad the state of broadcasting today. I would venture to guess that those let go weren't even making 40k so it's not like we are talking huge dollars for staff here. Evanov, like many broadcasters, want to operate their stations with the least amount of people possible. I would bet that there are more sales people at Proud FM than anything else. I also believe Evanov had alterior motives when they applied for their gay station. Take a hit the first few years then increase the power and flip the station to something else.
VT, Vancouver British Columbia
05/12/10 11:10 PM EST
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there's no time like the present
i don't think it's too late for evinov to put into writing a commitment to either pink triangle press or some other appropriate group or agency that commits the station to staying gay, despite their initial refusal. i think it would greatly help reduce the talk of a format switch down the road, which otherwise i can't ever see going away.
kv, toronto ontario
05/13/10 7:03 AM EST
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It's the nature of the beast!
I'm not taking sides of here nor there, however it’s kind of funny that the opening to the article highlighted a quote from a armature party promoter regarding his opinion on "sound business practice". I'm sure he's a nice guy but seriously what does a party promoter know about good business practice???? All in all putting aside the un-credible quotes of facebook and twitter junkies I think the article depicted both sides fairly. As a current employee of the media industry locally and internationally the reaction to this has been but a drop in the water compared to most. Drama like this is all a part of the nature of the “media beast” and comes and goes as quickly as tomorrow’s weather forecast. If the statistical data regarding the LBGT population in Toronto are accurate, and if the station can integrate some exciting “new” personalities on air I’m confident they have a bright future and will be worth keeping our eye on!!
Carly Rea, Toronto ON
05/13/10 10:39 AM EST
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I will no longer be listening
Because of Proud FM's poor signal, when I could hear it, I would only listen long enough to hear news or if a host was talking because frankly, the music sucks. Especially on the weekend in the morning, it's the equivalent of an oldies station. Due to what's happened now, I will not even be tuning in at all anymore unless the management changes. This is the 3rd time and I have had enough. Frankly, at this point they could go bankrupt for all I care. I will not support a company that treats their employees in this fashion and I know many people feel the same way. Sayonara Proud FM. You are as of now, only a tainted memory.
Darlene, Toronto Ontario
05/13/10 10:45 AM EST
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