QuAIA likely to march in Toronto Pride parade
PRIDE NEWS / 'We have as much right to be in the parade as anyone else:" McCaskell
Andrea Houston / Toronto / Sunday, May 13, 2012
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Tim McCaskell says the group Queers Against Israeli Apartheid (QuAIA) will likely march in the 2012 Toronto Pride parade. No application has been submitted yet to Pride Toronto (PT), but, he says, plans to participate in the parade are being developed.

“Unless something extraordinary happens, our default will be to march,” McCaskell says. “We have as much right to be in the parade as anyone else.”

Last year, McCaskell says, Toronto Mayor Rob Ford and Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti cited QuAIA as one reason the city should refuse to participate in Pride. QuAIA's presence was also cited in the attempt to withhold city funding and in-kind services for PT. Ford, Mammoliti, the Jewish Defense League and others argued that QuAIA, which advocates for a boycott, divestment and sanctions against the state of Isreal, is a hate group.
Queers Against Israeli Apartheid (QuAIA) marching in Toronto Pride 2010.
(Courtesy psnedmonton.ca)


McCaskell says some members of city council argued that the mayor could be in physical danger if QuAIA marched. Mammoliti was seen video taping last year's Dyke March in a stated effort to capture marchers “using hate speech.”

But in April last year, a report from the city manager's office concluded that QuAIA's presence in the parade did not violate the city's anti-discrimination policy. Even after that report was released, the city tried to compel PT to "guarantee a QuAIA-free week."

Vindicated by the decision, QuAIA bowed out from participating in the parade last year. The group did not even submit an application. Instead, on the day of the parade, group members dropped a 40-foot banner from the roof of the Wellesley subway station.
On the day of the 2011 Pride parade, QuAIA dropped a 40-foot banner off the roof of the Wellesley subway station.
(Marcus McCann (Xtra file photo))

QuAIA confirms the group will most likely march in the 2012 Pride parade.
(Courtesy of QuAIA)

“Rob Ford wants to use us as an excuse to cut Pride funding, even though he has always opposed funding the parade, long before we showed up,” said QuAIA's Elle Flanders at the time. “By holding our Pride events outside of the parade, we are forcing him to make a choice: fund Pride or have your real homophobic, rightwing agenda exposed.”

This year, McCaskell says he sees no reason the group wouldn’t participate in the parade. Plans will be discussed and finalized following the Town Hall for Political Queers at the 519 Church St Community Centre at 2pm on May 27.

“It has been such a fucking roller coaster for the past two years. We just want to attend Pride, carry our messages and have a great weekend,” McCaskell says. “That’s what Pride should be about, not these kind of entrenched battles around people’s right to self-expression, and whether or not people have the right to be there, which is hoisted on the community from the outside.”
Long-time queer activist Tim McCaskell.
(Xtra file photo)


The deadline to submit applications to march in the parade is June 1, at which time PT will post the list publicly, says PT co-chair Francisco Alvarez.

Alvarez points to the dispute-resolution committee, which was created following a recommendation in the Community Advisory Panel report, the result of a series of community meetings held last year. The committee would act as an arms-length arbitration body, made up of mostly lawyers, which would handle any complaints. The decision of the panel would be final, he says.

“The process is in place to handle any complaint about any type of group. That could be a religious group, environmental group or political group,” he says. “This takes the decision-making out of our hands because we’re not experts in human rights arbitration.”

So far, says Alvarez, that process has not been invoked. Since it hasn't been tested, there’s no way to know how long the dispute-resolution process will be, so there may not be a verdict before Pride, he says.

“Given the complexity of different issues, we may not be able to resolve it before the parade,” he says. “If a complaint is received, but the resolution is not made before the parade, the group will be allowed to march . . . Obviously, QuAIA has the biggest profile,” he says.

Alvarez says he is somewhat concerned that QuAIA's appearance at the parade could spark a new battle with the city. “I’m hoping it won't. I feel the issue has kind of played itself out.

“I hope we are past those disagreements and we can all work together rather than against one another. I hope everyone accepts everyone else’s right to be there and express their opinions.”


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So what?
Let them march. They only do it to gain attention. Deny it to them. Treat them just like any other entry. Yawn.
Tom, Toronto ON
05/14/12 6:06 PM EST
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Where is Pride Toronto's Leadership?
Says Pride Toronto Co-Chair Fransisco Alvarez of the tensions that have clouded the Pride Parade these past couple of years: “I hope we are past those disagreements and we can all work together rather than against one another. I hope everyone accepts everyone else’s right to be there and express their opinions.” This is a wonderful thought and all, but such a reality will never be possible so long as the Dispute Resolution Process continues to exist. That is to say: if Francisco Alvarez is *actually* committed to such a future, then he would stop deferring to the DRP's supposed "expert[ise] in human rights arbitration" and get Pride Toronto to step forward and *officially* recognize QuAIA a legitimate human rights group within Toronto's LGBTQ* community -- proudly, publicly, and unequivocally. Only THEN will the question surrounding QuAIA's right to participate in Pride be put to rest, and the antagonism he complains about be dissipated sooner, rather than later. Start representing your constituent communities and organizations, Pride Toronto, regardless of their politics, manner of expression, or profitability. Start living up to your festival's motto -- CELEBRATE [the diversity of Toronto's LGBTQ* communities, tensions and all] and DEMONSTRATE [your unfaltering pride in them, regardless of these tensions].
Martin O., Toronto Ontario
05/14/12 9:19 PM EST
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QuAIA and the False Nature of Pride, Part 1
It doesn’t surprise me that QuAIA has announced that they intend to march at Pride 2012. I suspect they’ve been planning to do so ever since Pride’s near brush with City council de-funding last year. QuAIA’s ultimate goal is probably a spectacle at World Pride 2014 against gay-friendly Israel and in favour of Israel’s homophobic enemies. After all, when you consider the people who are members of QuAIA, you can see that it’s in their nature to cause controversy and division and to offend. For example, a person like QuAIA’s Tim McCaskell will likely be angrily chanting against his perceived enemies at protest marches until the last breath finally leaves his old, wizened body. Still, QuAIA will probably succeed in marching at Pride this year. Rob Ford and his allies on City council are in a weaker position this year than last year and left-wing City councilors like Kristyn Wong-Tam (the former owner of QuAIA’s website) will probably delight in defeating lobbying efforts by pro-Israel Jewish groups in Toronto. If any misguided opponent of QuAIA (or, alternatively, a QuAIA agent looking to stage a victory) tries to use the so-called dispute resolution process established by the pro-QuAIA board of directors of Pride Toronto, they will find that any dispute resolution panel will be stacked with pro-QuAIA lawyers.
Jeff, Toronto ON
05/14/12 9:42 PM EST
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QuAIA and the False Nature of Pride, Part 2
Nevertheless, QuAIA may have helped us all see the false nature of Pride. Before QuAIA started marching in Pride and causing so much division, people in the LGBT community idealistically saw the Pride parade as one day in which we could all come together. Even if there were tensions the rest of the year between gay men and lesbians, rich and poor, young and old, beautiful and ugly, etc., we could all be united at Pride and be nice to each other on that one day. But, QuAIA has definitively shown us that it was a false unity and a false niceness (as can be attested by the many stories of unkind and hurtful behavior at Pride events). Even though many people inside and outside the LGBT community find QuAIA’s name, signs, chanting and message at Pride to be defamatory, inappropriate, hurtful and deeply offensive, the LGBT establishment in Toronto have repeatedly supported QuAIA’s desire to offend and to hurt (e.g., Xtra, The 519, Pride Free Speech Coalition, PWA Foundation, Black Coalition for AIDS Prevention, Inside Out, Egale, MCC, etc.).
Jeff, Toronto ON
05/14/12 9:44 PM EST
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QuAIA and the False Nature of Pride, Part 3
But, perhaps this is the way it should be. Perhaps we should recognize that when QuAIA hurts and offends others at Pride, it’s no different than how many groups in the LGBT community behave the rest of the year. Other than a common sexual orientation and a shared experience of discrimination, most groups in the LGBT community have very little in common with each other and don’t naturally socialize with each other (e.g., gay men vs. lesbians; cis vs. trans). Some groups in the gay male community view others with deep disdain (e.g., young vs. old; muscular and fit vs. fat and unfit; beautiful vs. ugly). Some groups in the LGBT community even hate, distrust or deeply resent each other as a result of their upbringing (e.g., Muslims vs. Jews, left-wing vs. right-wing). On a personal level, other than a common sexual orientation, I have nothing in common with Tim McCaskell and Elle Flanders of QuAIA. If you put us in a room together, you would see that we would not get along. QuAIA has shown us that perhaps rather than be hypocrites and pretend to like each other at Pride, it’s better for each group to stay separate and apart. It’s better for a distinct group of like-minded people with shared values to keep to themselves. As the saying goes, fences make good neighbours. Most LGBT people desire, above all, to find and maintain a nurturing relationship with another human being who cares about them, rather than a false adherence to any downtown ghetto, lifestyle or value system favoured by Queer activists. A person is most likely to find and maintain such a nurturing relationship with like-minded people - outside of the Church Street ghetto and outside of Pride. There is no love, mutual respect, caring or unity listening to the hateful, defamatory chants of a group like QuAIA at Pride.
Jeff, Toronto ON
05/14/12 9:45 PM EST
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World Pride
If the QuAIA or Xtra tries to ban Israel from World Pride in 2014 then it will be clear they do support censorship or attacking people for who they are then free speech and freedom of expression will be joke. Also, it is not much of a secret they do attack other LGBT organizations for wanted to either highlight LGBT rights in Israel or even organizations who want to held conferences there. They have a clear example of this on their webpage.
Ben Johnson, Toronto Ontario
05/14/12 10:05 PM EST
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QUEERS AGAINST ISLAMIC ATROCITIES (QuAIA)
THERE IS AN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM WEARING A BURKA... MUSLIM TREATMENT OF GAYS IS THE MOST ATROCIOUS OF ALL... LGBT in Muslim countries live in fear of losing their job and/or being beaten and/or going to jail and/or being executed or murdered by their own family --even in Palestinian areas. Why is no one protesting that !!??? ***There should be a group at Pride such as QUEERS AGAINST ISLAMIC ATROCITIES (QuAIA). Big hairy bearded guys marching in the parade with nothing on but black boots, pink thongs and pink chiffon Niqabs (face veils) --ululating loudly all the way down Yonge Street-- dragging Korans chained to their ankles. *** How many Gays/Lesbians have a sense of social justice and the balls to do this ??!! ***Queer Middle Easterns having escaped with their lives from their dictatorial regimes should be willing to do this !! ***Get off your sissy fat asses and put on your Pink chiffon Niqabs and march in the Pride Parade to save Islamic Queers from torture !! Yes YOU !!! I mean YOU who is reading this !!!
Joe, Tor ON
05/15/12 1:50 AM EST
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Martin O on Pride's Leadership
Well put Martin O! Clear, concise and to the point, on Pride's Leadership.
Michael F. Pare', Toronto ON
05/15/12 2:56 AM EST
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Call your Mammoliti
Pride, some of you suggest, should be controlled to prevent "hate", and yet, this act of censorship creates an apartheid in our own community- the precarious leap from tolerating free expression to outright exclusion? How does the presence of anti-Israeli apartheid protesters at Pride exclude anyone else? Isn't Pride fundamentally connected to challenging norms that work to exclude people? As for the actual conflict, both sides cling to their victimization narratives, but given overwhelming western favoritism, Israeli right-wing governments have the deck stacked. No water, no schools, no infrastructure- what is there in such a bleak injustice for so many Palestinians? Queer anti-Israeli apartheid activists will never launch a nuke upon a people, or phosphorous, nor will they declare a state on an undeclared land partially claimed for use by others, nor will they lock people up indefinitely without trial.
M, Toronto Ontario
05/15/12 5:06 AM EST
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cherry picking trendy selfishness
M, if you are going to micro hand pick particular international struggles (that have nothing to do with homosexuality but with "challenging norms to exclude people", why cherry pick the Palestinian issue as a "queer" one when there are dozens of other issues more relevant to homosexuality such as Queers Against Russian Homohate, Queers Against Islamic Homophobia, Queers Against African Christian Atrocities Against Gays. And so on. Some of us (who are not backing Israel in that micro struggle so have no bias) wonder if the international concern of these "Queers Against" is about our cause of homosexual rights or if their own selfish left-wing (an anachronism) bullshit is bullying its single issue into the place in sun of so many other issues. The trendiness and oh so precious self-riteousness of the QUAI people make me want to support other groups where the adherants may be less self-centred, vain, obnoxious and superciliously self-pious.
Oddrey Hipburn, Toronto Ontario
05/15/12 8:12 AM EST
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YAWN
No one cares, other then the 4 or 5 who vocally and regularly put on a hate for Pride. Don't complain that there are other issues more urgent unless you are willing to get your as off the chair and form a group. I would say shut the fuck up and quit your whining, but that would be the C word. Besides complaining seems to be the only way many of you can celebrate Pride. and I reiterate - YAWN
Fred, Toronto ON
05/15/12 9:04 AM EST
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QuAIA is apart of the BDS cult anyway
M, the goal of anti Israel activists is not peace but destroying Israel as a country and they are not even interested in Israel's right to a Jewish country or to exist anyway, just destroying it and making another Yugoslavia. Like other Anti Israel organizations they do not want a two state solution but want Israel to committed national suicide. As a result QuAIA like other Anti Israel Organizations are a cult just preaching to their members the news they want to hear. Even Norman Finkelstein points this out in a interview known as "Arguing the Boycott Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Campaign". He points out the errors groups like the QuAIA do and shows how BDS is a failure from what they do. (https://vimeo.com/36854424) and the QuAIA is a example of this. Also M. Please tell us when Israel has ever used a nuke on another country? I bet when Iran pushes the button on Israel the QuAIA will be celebrating and cheering Iran. Phosphorous is used by all armies and is not illegal for use in war. Hamas also has been known to use it on Israelis on rockets but of course they are cheered by the Anti Israel organizations. Also I wonder why QuAIA says nothing on Assad when he has murdered more then Israel has ever had and Assad in the process of killing his own people has killed Palestinians but nothing of course.
Will, Toronto Ontario
05/15/12 10:21 AM EST
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Here we go again..
Personally, I am sick of hearing about this group... QuAIA has absolutely nothing to do with Pride.. we are talking about a completely different cause...and a group out to exploit free speech for sensationalism.... How about putting your energy into supporting the equality struggle currently unfolding in the U.S. and giving your queer american brothers and sisters some support.. you know.. the ones who come here in droves to celebrate with us and spend money !! Get out of our Pride...
Chris, Toronto ONT
05/15/12 2:57 PM EST
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Restrict Pride 2012 to LGBT related issues only
Israel is the only country in the Middle East where Homosexuality is legal and non-punishable by state laws. YET, IRONICALLY, the racist rabbis who advocate the refusal of services to Arabs in Israel and who advocate the stealing of Palestinian land for settlements --are also deeply Homophobic. Religious Israelis are deeply Homophobic --it is only state laws which keep these religious nuts in check. Ultra Orthodox rabbis in Israel or even in Toronto are as Homophobic as the Muslim Clerics/Mullahs who preach hate in Islamic countries. As well the Christian Evangelists in the U.S. who have exported their hatred of Homosexuals to African countries are equally despicable. It is only in democratic countries that Gays/Lesbians are no longer tortured for being Gay. So the cherry-picking of protest may be more relevant for Pride if the issue was about something LGBT related. Otherwise the Parade is already too long. Let QuAIA march in the Santa Claus Parade or in Caribana.
Chas, Toronto ON
05/15/12 5:50 PM EST
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Not them again
Why protest a country that supports gays when Uganda is killing them. They should protest at the Israeli embassy and let the gays have their celebration. QAIA only springs into action to fuck with the gays. Leave the hate at home.
Stephen, Toronto ON
05/17/12 7:43 PM EST
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Political high jacking
The irony and absurdity of a pro-Palestinian group of queers high jacking a parade is too much. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts. QuAIA needs to be shamed for the hateful idiots they are.
Nick, Toronto Ontario
05/19/12 2:34 AM EST
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Again?
Does anyone have the balls to protect our gay pride from this and other hate groups? Now that Ford has discredited himself in the gay community we are completely helpless to their attack. If the mayor does anything to stop these ass holes it will just help their false narrative that it is gays against "The outsiders". By the "outsiders", they mean,of course, the Jews. When this fight is actually between hateful gays who want to enforce their despicable agenda on us and the rest of the gay community. We're screwed this year!
Queero, Toronto ontario
05/19/12 12:59 PM EST
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Against Israeli Apartheid movement mostly Jewish
Many members of the QuAIA are Jewish. Many of the “Against Israeli Apartheid” -AIA- movement around the world are Jewish. The QuAIA are just a tiny portion of the larger AIA movement. They do NOT want to end Israel. They are criticizing the Israeli government's handling of Palestinian issues. The Jewish AIA movement is like Canadian citizens criticizing Canada over the treatment of Aboriginal people --yet they still love Canada-- they just want to improve Canada. Like Israel has been criticized by the United Nations (and other nations worldwide) about their breaches of accords and treaties with Palestinians, the UN has also criticized Canada over our treatment of Aboriginal people. Harper now is riding roughshot over Aboriginal lands to build the Northern Gateway Pipeline. Israel is stealing Palestinian land by building settlements on Palestinian land in the WestBank. Do you see the parallel situation of Canada and Israel? While Jewish and Israeli citizens do have the right to criticize Israeli policies, the Israeli/Palestinian situation has no relevance in the Toronto Pride Parade. The Pride Parade should include only LGBT related issues, such as Gays being executed in Iran and Russia banning Gay Parades, etc.
Joe, Tor ON
05/19/12 5:57 PM EST
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Iranian MP says gay pride parades are Zionist
A senior Iranian legislator has blasted a gay pride parade planned to be held in the Muslim state of Azerbaijan on May 26 as a Zionist plot. He said (quote) "The parade has been planned based on the goals of the Zionists and the world arrogance (the US). (end of quote). If a strong enemy of Israel like Iran thinks that gay pride parades are Zionist and QuAIA passionately hates Zionism, will QuAIA still want to march in this year’s pride parade in Toronto? See: http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9102112615
John, Toronto ON
05/20/12 7:23 AM EST
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Misguided McCaskell and minions
Oh gawd, not this old saw again. QuAIA may think it has a right to march in the parade...but I also have the right NOT TO ATTEND the parade because of them, and I will be avoiding the parade - again. Timmy, take your far flung geo-political grievances elsewhere more fitting - such as the Israeli consulate here in T.O. or to their embassy in Ottawa if you must...but let's save Pride Day for QUEER issues. Sheesh.
Ken, Toronto Ontario
05/20/12 12:48 PM EST
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WTF
This group and the situation they've created is beyond ironic that it's moronic. If they were interested in justice they'd be protesting Iran that hangs gays. This group only agitates around Pride like they're out to sabotage the party like the Phelps clan. So sick of these losers.
Grant, Toronto ON
05/20/12 3:21 PM EST
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