Pride Toronto promises consultation with trans community... in August
TORONTO NEWS / Organizers scramble on trans file amid dissent
Andrea Zanin / Toronto / Friday, June 11, 2010
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“There seems to be a lot of confusion about what’s going on with the trans-related events at Pride, and with the Trans March. And no one in the trans community seems to know anything about it.” So says Savannah Garmon, a volunteer with the Trans Inclusion group, a subgroup of the Women and Trans Centre at the University of Toronto.

To air their concerns, Garmon and fellow volunteers co-wrote a letter and sent it by email on May 6 to Tracey Sandilands and the Pride Toronto board members.

“We basically asked what’s going on. In particular, we brought up the idea that there should be some sort of community consultation event between Pride and the trans community.”

Sandilands’ May 14 email reply indicated that one would be held — on Aug 12.

“So it’s going to be after Pride. I guess their thinking is to try and sort of fix it for next year. Nothing’s going to happen before Pride 2010, I think that’s clear.”

Sandilands did not respond to calls for comment.

Ayden Scheim, who works in trans health promotion, is additionally concerned about Pride’s partnership with a group called Xpressions to create TransSpace, a new trans community space initiative.

“I’ve heard of Xpressions before but never met anyone in the group. They seem to be a predominantly white and definitely rich group of crossdressers and trans women — which is fine. I’m sure they do important and necessary things, but they speak to a very narrow segment of the community.”

Scheim says that Pride contacted him two weeks ago for help with trans community involvement because of concerns about Xpressions’ lack of broader outreach.

“I was honest and said, ‘I am quite surprised you just realized this now, because if you’d bothered to do community consultations months ago, people would have told you it was problematic to work with only this group and recommended other groups then.’ It’s frustrating and upsetting and offensive to be contacted at this stage in the game. If I have to tell you in June that you should probably talk to The 519 or the Sherbourne Health Centre, somebody’s not doing their job.”

Nik Redman, who co-programmed the TransAction stage at Pride 2008 and 2009, says, “This year I had offered a couple of times to help and asked in passing what’s going on with the trans stage and Trans March, but I was put off and wasn’t given any feedback.”

He says he was contacted by potential performers but had to tell them he didn’t know who had taken over.

“About two months ago, I got an email from [Pride coordinators] Mary [Zondanos] and [DJ] TK asking if I knew any local people who could be on stage. I asked, ‘Who do you have on the stage, if you don’t have local people?’” Redman says he also expressed his dismay at the lack of people of colour, trans women and genderqueer performers in the lineup.

Redman says he was later recruited by Zahra Dhanani, creator of Pride’s FunkAsia event, for help in gaining trans community involvement for FunkAsia’s new incarnation as a Trans March afterparty called Trans-Form-Nation.

Still, he says, “I have yet to get an answer from Pride about who’s organizing the Trans March or even the trans stage. There’s definitely not a lot of clarity.”

Pride Toronto’s arts and entertainment programming coordinator, TK, who co-programmed the TransVerse stage, responds: “At the time we were having a discussion about the lack of trans women on the stage, but I think we’ve rectified that now. I’ve actually done a lot of community outreach.”

Among others, she mentions poet Andrea Jenkins, a trans woman of colour, and DJ CPI from Ottawa, as well as performers Jennifer Leitham and Honey Dijon, who are slated to perform on other stages.
 
“I think the trans stage will be much larger, attract more people, and be good for trans visibility. We’re moving from a smaller space at George Hislop and a smaller stage to a large venue. The Trans March is going to be significantly larger this year. And the TransSpace, with four 10’ x 10’ tents, is largely community defined, with lots of community health information, political messaging and more.”

TK says Xpressions approached Pride with the TransSpace idea, not the reverse. “We did receive some criticism,” she admits, but since then, “we’ve been reaching out very actively to a lot of groups, about 35 that I’ve personally been in touch with.”

As for the Trans March, TK says that Luka Sidaravicius, who coordinated Pride 2009’s Fruit Loopz Youth Stage, “has just come on recently as the Trans March coordinator.”

In short, says TK, “I think it’s probably the best year for trans visibility at Pride, honestly.”

The Trans March rallies at Church and Hayden on Fri, July 2 at 7pm (the march starts at 8). TransVerse at the South Stage (Church and Wood) is from 7pm onward. The Funkasia/Trans-Form-Nation Afterparty starts at 10 pm at the Phoenix Concert Theatre, 410 Sherbourne St. $10–15. TransSpace runs Sat, July 3 and Sun, July 4, location TBA.


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Tracey Sandilands cares for you only if...
If you're "successful" and have gotten "away from the village," then Tracey Sandilands just might give a shit about you. Otherwise expect avoidance, e-mail blocking, and police surveillance. Honestly: Where the %$#! did they find her?! Here's an excellent glimpse at her attitude: http://vimeo.com/12448877
Rick, London Ontario
06/11/10 3:43 PM EST
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@Aiden
The Human Rights Comittee of Pride consulted 519 staff Kyle Scanlon about Pride on February 10,2010. Kyle shared research done with the community about the need for more social events that focused on the community needing more social spaces. He reported there are many services for more marginal members of the community but difficult for the broader community to come together. So the Trans Form Nation was developed. Many other trans community members were consulted who were not interested in being involved. A Trans reception was being planned for Sutton Place when the conflict with Blocko and QuAIA developed. Vivanne Namaste was invited as a keynote but that got scrapped -- colateral damge after the ban. For the record I personally asked many members of the Trans community to join the committee. Several people suggested the Trans coordinator be a paid position which I brought back to Pride but because no other coordinators are paid that wasn't possible. I feel given the work of organizing the Trans March is clearly inviible this feels like an unfair public attack. Just saying!
Human Rights Committee of Pride Toronto, Toronto ON
06/12/10 7:08 AM EST
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re @ Aiden
My comment was specifically about the TransSpace being created this year, not about the human rights program. Having a space for the broader community to gather is exactly what I desire, and hence I think it's problematic for Xpressions to be the only partner in organizing such a space. I was asked to be part of the human rights program activities around trans issues and declined because of my own availability and the issues that were beginning to emerge around a lack of community consultation and censorship- I was not willing to be used as part of PT's attempts to justify it's actions by pointing to the existence of 'human rights' events while disrespecting the rights of local community members. That was my personal choice, I wouldn't criticize the Human Rights Committee for a lack of consultation at all, I know there were attempts to have trans input and involvement. I was criticizing the programming staff and committees, responsible for the march, trans space, and stage, who failed to consult with community leaders and past programmers until most decisions had already been made & who are unable to take any responsibility for that mistake, which doesn't seem to be an isolated incident. Bringing on one trans person a month before the event doesn't make all that go away. And I refuse to believe that this happened because no trans person would volunteer for the role, I didn't see or hear about any recruitment effort- months and months ago, when it should have happened- to find trans community members to be the trans march coordinators or stage programmers.
Ayden, Toronto ON
06/12/10 3:49 PM EST
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More
Pride Toronto organized the first Trans March last year with much of the work and expense taken on by Pride Toronto. To thank Pride for this historic move the broader Trans community did not step up no one wanted to be directly involved i.e. sit on a committee and attend planning meetings or volunteer to be the coordinator. Do people think a FB group really was all it took last year! Xpressions came forward and the Trans coordinator position remained empty. You can separate Pride Toronto from the Human Rights Committee but the reality is that we are all Pride Toronto. I have never not once heard anyone from Pride Toronto "justify" anything using the Human Rights Program. Whose Pride our Pride is a chant for a reason if you want it to change and be more accountable the broader community has to step up. We are all busy the loudest voices have never lifted a finger to organize Prideaybenif they /we did Helen Kennedy would have won the fight to keep QuAIA in the Pride and Blocko would be treated badly. Check out the Human Rights events planned this year. Our star event was a conference that would have focused on just this issue- how do queers in the North support Queers globally and should we. Surely you can't be suggesting that we ignore the Global which is at the heart of the QuAIA debacle. Toronto has one of the largest Pride celebrations in the world ignoring human rights abuses against queer people globally seems irresponsible at best and immoral at worst. Again just saying!
PTHR, Toronto ON
06/13/10 7:44 AM EST
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@ PTHR - Are you sure?
"...but because no other coordinators are paid that wasn't possible." Please check again. The Pride Guide just came out and there are several Coordinators listed who are on the PT payroll someway/somehow ... EG: Daniel Chimento & Chris Barry in VIP Spaces (DC is the paid promoter of the Gala & CB works for Tourism Toronto, one of Pride's funding partners), Additionally, TK is listed as both a Coordinator and as a paid intern. I understand that Martin Kuplen-Ewart owns the company "apolitic" which is being paid for maintaining the web site. I've heard that Byren Dunn is also being paid to coordinate Pride events in the west-end in-conjuction with Queen West Village? Also both the "affiliate events" and "golf day" duties were advertised as paid contract positions on Work in Culture and I understand that Gil Martinez (Art Direction) is working under contract to Pride. ALL the above are listed as "coordinators" under VOLUNTEER committees ... Hmmmmm How many other "Volunteer" coordinators are on the PT payroll? I guess Pride only pays those it deems worthy ...
an observer, toronto ont
06/13/10 10:23 PM EST
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Clarification is needed
Wow! Reading some of the comments posted by the member of Pride Human Rights committee - I would think we are living on a different planet when it comes to my reality and what you said had happen. Zahra Dhanani was told by Pride that after 12 years, her Funkasia stage would be moved to make way for a new Trans stage. As one of the people who initiated the idea for the TransACTION stage this was news to me. All of sudden Zahra was also asked if Funkasia could also be a celebration for the Trans March and The Transverse stage. Zahra Dhanani approached me as a trans person about being involved with the organizing of that party. It would celebrate the lives of trans people, gender queer folks and especially people who are racialized and also Trans. I personally said to her that we need to create something spoke to members of the community and our queer allies who have been left out in the cold by Pride. Thus the Trans Form Nation party was created (a name which I came up with in consulation with Zahra and Shafik not PTHR) Actually PTHR & Trans form Nation organizers were told by A&E manager of Pride that PTHR could not sponsored one of our titles in our mini-ball competition relating to Human rights! On another note the Trans March was actually started by a Trans woman Kara Mathison and her wife in 2009. When Pride Toronto got wind of this unsanctioned March- they wanted to find out who were the organizers under the thinly veiled guise of being worried for the safety of the marchers. Last year the hundreds of marchers went beyond the extremely "sanctioned route" that was designated by Pride. This year Pride Toronto has co-opted the March. To be clear Trans people were not consulted to the very end. Any Trans identified people currently involved were brought on board at the last possible moment. Clearly, Pride Toronto and the Pride Human Rights Committee is trying to rewrite history!
nik red, toronto ontario
06/13/10 10:33 PM EST
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All in the Telling
How can Pride Toronto approaching Zahra to have a more permanent indoor space for over 1000 members of the broader Trans Community to have a celebration get turned around to be a bad thing? Check the guide the Trans Party is listed under the Human Rights events. I am angry because the outreach and engagement with the Trans community is invisible in this article. Sure there needs to be a meeting with the community and Pride Toronto but to say people don't know what is going on and no one has done anything to outreach to the community is simply not true.
HRPT, Toronto ON
06/13/10 11:08 PM EST
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rewriting history
I am sooo tired of this! I picked up the pride guide and saw the slogan "when Harry becomes Sally" as the lead in to the trans march and stage. Seriously?! That is so offensive and so beyond where we are in 2000 and fucking ten. As a transsexual, and trans community member and activist- I "uncomfotable" with the pride guide cover! how that word has been used and missused this pride to silence dissent. I use it here to draw attention to the fact that the very "anti-discrimination" policy of the city could be invoked here- as the ocver once again makes trans peoples experiences a joke. I was furious when pride Toronto tried to pit blocko against the trans stage during our community meeting on August 12, 2010- with PT suggesting that blocko was only in ghp because of the audience built by the trans stage and the infrastructure of the trans stage (in fact, the opposite was true-we were making a home in ghp first, and had built up and audience and infrastructure- built on this, Nik and I cooked up the idea for the trans stage with Sara malabar and Lisa duke). What is going on with all the rewriting of history? After seeing the pride guide and reading that supremely offensive cover I realized we are clearly living in the past. The title, and in fact all of the programming plan put forward is archaic to say the least. So few trans people of colour, so few local trans folks, so little diversity. And the title is 'clever' and titillating only to transphobic people or people who have never ever connected with the vibrant beautiful and radical trans community in Toronto. As a facilitator of one of the Trans groups in the city, and as a founding member or 2 other trans groups, I would like to note that we were not approached to help with programming- not once, not at all. And really, who better to connect with than the two trans-identified, well connected community programmers who programmed the stage last year? One more thing to be f
syrus marcus ware, toronto ontario
06/13/10 11:09 PM EST
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35 trans groups?
for the record, next time, I would suggest connecting with trans groups and programs like 1). TFC at SOY, 2). the Gay, Bi, Queer Trans Men's HIV prevention working group, 3). the Trans Women's Drop-in out of PASAN, 4).the Trans-inlcusion group at the Centre for Women and Trans people at U of T, 5).The Trans pap campaign folks, Just off the top of my head- with no research. Im not sure if you connected with the TYT group at the 519 or not, or the monday drop in or not- the article indicates you went to Kyle at the 519, but maybe stopped there? I know for a fact the groups I am personally involved in that are trans specific were not approached by PT. FYI However, to mend the conflict or hurt between PT and trans folks in TO, PT will have to move beyond defensiveness and onto next steps.
syrus, toronto ontario
06/13/10 11:21 PM EST
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It is all bad enough!
That cover is so offensive I wonder why I bother. There has to be a trans person who is politically engaged elected to the Pride Board in the fall. I think I have a right to be frustrated but again just like the Blocko fiasco Pride Toronto staff seem to go out of their way to alienate the community. How will we ever recover. A meeting with Pride Toronto is clearly needed. Tranphobia on the front of the guide. Is the bar really that low. Pride Staff accuse the community of trying to destroy Pride. Doing a fine job on their own!
I agree with you syrus HRPT, Toronto ON
06/13/10 11:41 PM EST
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@an observer
Apolitic was engaged following an open, competitive RFP process. It has not been involved with the Pride Toronto website in any substantive way since the 2009 festival. Not that it is relevant, but all fees were substantially discounted – by at least 50%. There was no compensation provided for volunteer service to Pride Toronto, and great care was taken to make sure that neither role overlapped.
Apolitic, Toronto Ontario
06/14/10 9:21 AM EST
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Correction/Clarification
Hi folks! Correction: Fruit Loopz Program Coordinator-Lorelei KING 2008 Past Fruit Loopz Youth Project Assistant-Luka S., a talented and motivated individual! Clarification: Because Fruit Loopz is often advertised without mention of Supporting Our Youth (which is a program of Sherbourne Health Centre), and to keep things clear for the youth who are interested in Fruot Loopz,I feel the need to clarify some facts! Fruit Loopz is an 8 year old SOY Initiative that I have been Coordinating for the past 3 years. Before that Clare N. was Cordinator for quite a few years! The Youth Project Assistant position is filled by a different youth every year; chosen by the Coordinator for their talent and motivation. This year's Youth Project Assistant is Bernice C. who is also a talented and motivated individual. Thanks and... Congratulations to Luka S. as Coordinator of this year's Trans March! Peace KING Lorelei BQY & Fruit Loopz Community Programs Coordinator SOY/SHC www.soytoronto.org
KING Lorelei, Toronto ON
06/14/10 10:19 AM EST
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So What Else Is New?
The Trans March last year created by Pride? Bullshit. Get your facts straight. Pride jumped on the bandwagon when they understood it was going to happen regardless of their lack of support. The route selected not by Pride though there were attempts to make that marching space smaller and restrictive. And it happened because for years only lip service to this idea had been paid. And Xpressions? Please as was pointed out they are mostly a white, well off cross dresser group. Not much more. Hell why not ask the Clarke while you're at it? Dam if nothing else what Toronto dose have are plenty of TS/TG/T specific organisations there and willing to help or direct you and get the word out the people are needed. And talk about ignorance of not actually doing more out reach to get more community input on what is wanted/needed. Very typical, once again someone saying what's good for you instead of listening to hear what you need. This just confirms what many know, sadly only because of the new anti QAIA policy. Pride needs to do some internal cleaning and soul searching. Figure out(by listening) what the communities want for their celebration.
femme, Toronto ON
06/14/10 11:50 AM EST
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Take Back the Trans?
Absolute nonsense coming from P.T.I. - "A Long list of Transwomen" my ass ... (1) ONE US health activist from 8:45 -9:00 pm on Friday (0) ZERO local Transwomen Last year it was us.. and it was good. This year it's P.T.I. and it's crap. If someone out there is organizing "Take back the Trans" march... sign me up.
N W, Toronto Ontario
06/14/10 4:03 PM EST
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@syrus
TYT at The 519 was not consulted, as far as I know (as co-facilitator). Surprise, surprise. Who were these 35 groups? ~Morgan
Morgan Page, Toronto Ontario
06/14/10 4:29 PM EST
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Pride Toronto can do no right
Well, it's official. Pride Toronto can do not right by anyone who's involved in Toronto's LGBT community. You people make a fuss about every move they make, somehow finding the bad side of everything. Is there any wonder why they lose almost all volunteers and staff every year or two? Who would want to stick around having to deal with this community...not me.
G. Palazar, Toronto On
06/14/10 5:09 PM EST
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Time to leave the bullshit behind
@G Palazar - yes, and maybe its time they stopped trying. How much more do they need to take the constant criticism about everything they do - no matter what they do, it won't be right. 'Community consultations' are just thinly-disguised ambushes so the community can voice its dissatisfaction and its often unreasoanble and expensive demands - nobody ever tries to listen to the staff's reasons for doing whatever they do. It's time Pride stopped bowing to the pressure from every second special interest group and gets on with the job of organizing the biggest Pride in the region!
Lianne, London Ontario
06/14/10 5:49 PM EST
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????? P.T.I. organized the first Trans March???
No, no, no. - Simply not true. P.T.I.'s involvement was limited to trying to DEMAND that marchers walk on the sidewalk. INSIST that we wait for "parade marshals" who never showed up. And finally to DENY The Trans March access to Church St. I know, I was one of the marchers at the front facing the barricades @ Church & Wellesley. The only reason those barriers came down... Was the marchers. Thankfully, there is both video and photographic evidence to this effect.
N W, Toronto Ontario
06/14/10 6:06 PM EST
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Safety Dance?
What's with this sudden obsession with safety? It's trotted out as justification for every contentious decision PrideTO has made in the past 12 months.
Jacob, Toronto on
06/15/10 2:09 PM EST
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more or less
Some of the information I posted I have learned is not accurate. Sorry if it created any confusion. Broken telephone. Let's clarify some of this at a meeting with the community or as Syrus suggests "next steps". It is a hard year all around.
HRPT, Toronto ON
06/15/10 5:14 PM EST
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Correcting inaccuracies
@femme, Toronto and @HRPT, Toronto: Pride Toronto has never claimed to have organized last year's Trans March. We have ALWAYS attributed this to the members of the Trans Community that planned and organized the march themselves. We merely offered our assistance with issues like the permit for the march, and some of us took part proudly in the event. The planning was all done by the two community members that organized it and we have never said differently. The comments by someone under the name 'Human Rights Committee of Pride Toronto' were posted by a private individual and were not official or authorized comments from the the organization.
Tracey Sandilands, Toronto Ontario
06/16/10 1:04 PM EST
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It's all about money!
Talking about who gets paid by PT, I wonder why some of the 'community' members who are so busy bashing Pride don't come clean about their own involvement. I know from being involved in previous years that both Zahara (Funkasia) and DJ Nik Red get paid by Pride for putting on their gigs. They both have so much to say and but I don't hear anything about them turning down Pride's money - this year or any other year! Hypocrites - it's all about lining your own pockets at Pride's expense. Why you havent both been fired I don't know..
SK, Windsor Ontario
06/16/10 1:14 PM EST
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@SK, yes let's address money
SK, you're saying no one who works with an organization should have the right to criticize it? I would think that criticism is the natural path to improving things and encourage it. The point about "taking money from Pride" is just as ridiculous though. Pride _should_ give money to LGBT artists, that is part of its job... to _support_ the community. I would pose the question the other way around entirely... if Pride weren't giving money to Nik and Zahra, what would be the point in Pride even existing??
Savannah, Toronto ON
06/16/10 2:06 PM EST
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