Pride ED scrambles to retract comments
TORONTO NEWS / Sandilands angrily refuses to grant future interviews with Xtra
Krishna Rau / Toronto / Monday, January 12, 2009
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In a stunning about-face Tracey Sandilands, Pride Toronto's new executive director, says she wants to withdraw a series of seemingly benign comments she made to Xtra in December. She says this paper is out to get Pride and that her organization will no longer grant interviews to Toronto's gay press.

In a reader comment posted to a story, New Pride ED Calls for Better Planning, on Xtra.ca, Sandilands writes, "I'm fairly dissatisfied with this article and feel that my comments have been taken out of context and misquoted in several places."

But the context of Sandilands' comments is of a light-hearted, hour-plus, face-to-face interview recorded on tape between her and this reporter in December.

After reading her comment Xtra contacted Sandilands to follow up. She admitted that she was not misquoted but says her words were somehow still misrepresented.

"I just believe that they were deliberately presented in a negative light and they were not as fully presented as they could have been," she says. "Some things were taken out of context and if things had been presented exactly as I said them it would probably not have been a problem because I don't deny saying any of those things, I just deny saying them the way they were presented."

Sandilands says she is disappointed, for example, that Xtra reported that she regards Pride — one of the world's largest gay Pride celebrations — as a gay party.

In the original article Sandilands said, "Pride Toronto is just a party, a gay party."

"Actually we're much more than that and we want to be seen as much more than that," she says. "I really can't remember my exact words from a month ago but I'm quite certain that I don't believe that Pride is just a gay party."

Secondly, Sandilands says she is unsatisfied with her comments about Pride Toronto's 2008 effort to take a political stand on international human rights issues. Last year was the first year Pride included a special human rights component in its program.

"The plan wasn't fully developed last year, they probably just tried to have a bit of a focus on something," she told Xtra in the original story.

"I don't really believe I dismissed last year's efforts to create human rights," she says. "I think the discussion, if I remember correctly, around that was that we did do some stuff on human rights last year but it's nowhere near the effort where we want to go in those terms."

Sandilands also says she objects that Xtra asked her if she thought gay Pride was moving too far away from sex and open expressions of homosexuality.

"It may well be something we should look at," she said in the original story. "If it is the case, why is it the case? Is it because we're afraid to offend the mainstream public? Is it because we're trying to fit in? Is it because we're just being respectful of other peoples' beliefs and preferences?"

Sandilands says the story made it sound as if she raised the issue of sex among homosexuals at gay Pride herself, and that she objects to the suggestion that she might have brought the matter up.

"I remember very clearly that point was raised by you and not by me," she says. "You asked the question, I was taken by surprise. I said, 'Well, have we? I don't know. Maybe it's a good point.' I don't believe I asked the question in the first place."

In fact, every single comment Sandliands made during the interview was in response to questions posed by Xtra.

Sandilands says she has had numerous phone calls about what she said in the article and that people at Pride tell her Xtra does not support the organization.

"From what I hear this is not the first time this has happened with Xtra," she says. "It seems to be a pattern. I'm surprised because I was under the impression that Xtra is a gay publication and that you're there to inform the gay community, not necessarily to slate [slag] the organizations that are trying to do something for the gay community. My understanding is that nobody at Pride is surprised that once again we've had a knife stuck in our backs."

Sandilands says the Pride Toronto board of directors has approved a new policy to no longer provide interviews to Xtra.

"I'm not going to run the risk of being in this position again," she says. "I've cleared this with the board, we'll be giving no more interviews to Xtra from here on. There are enough other media out there who are not out to get us."

Matt Mills, editorial director of the Xtra papers and fab magazine, says it's ridiculous to suggest that Xtra is out to get Pride.

"It's absurd," he says. "Xtra, in fact the whole of Pink Triangle Press [which publishes Xtra], has been a supporter of Pride celebrations across the country since its inception with editorial support, advertising sponsorship support and even direct financial support in at least one case."

Mills says the original article explored honest concerns Toronto's gay and lesbian communities have about Pride and was conceived as an opportunity for a new and unknown executive director to speak to those issues and introduce herself to Xtra's readers.

"Xtra endeavors to ask the questions that people are asking on the street," he says. "We wouldn't be doing any service to our readers if we wrote an endless stream of puff pieces about how Pride Toronto is an unblemished picture of perfection. Our object is to effect positive change and ensure community organizations are transparent and accountable to gay and lesbian people. There was nothing raised in the article you wouldn't hear echoed on Church St any day the of the week. The story was strong and accurate."

Mills says he's dismayed and disappointed that Sandilands has decided not to speak to Xtra reporters.

"It's unfortunate that she's choosing to alienate our readers by not speaking to us in the future," he says. "I hope she reconsiders. It's unfortunate as well that she spoke so frankly and openly initially, but that after a few cranky phone calls and consultation with the Pride board of directors she apparently chose to retract statements that seem so reasonable. I wonder why she did that."
 

Use the control below to hear an edited-for-length recording of Sandilands original interview with Rau:
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Sandilands.mp3 - interview with Xtra reporter Krishna Rau



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Reader Comments


 
ED get some media training, an XTRA gimme a break!
Giving interviews over the phone is difficult for many reasons - no visual cues or emotional expressions to draw upon, thinking on the fly, and limited opportunity to review and clarify answers. Also this ED is brand new, doesn't have direct experience with the history of the Pride Toronto event, its ongoing challenges, and perhaps she simply was not well-prepared to be giving public statements at this point in time. Media training would be helpful for her. Nevertheless, XTRA does have a reputation for its affinity to a good stink, and perhaps needs to be a bit more understanding. No matter how accurate your verbatim recordings are, its not good journalism to go looking for opportunities to poke holes in indispensable community-run organizations. Pride Toronto is run primarily by volunteers, who each work around the clock and take on incredible responsibilities to produce one of the Pride events in the world. The City of Toronto would be a greyer and poorer city without the amazing work that these people put in, not to mention the amount of tourism (and money) that Pride brings in every June. It may be true that the organisation is often troubled with disagreement and last-minute changes (resulting from specialized demands from the City, sponsors, media, entertainment, suppliers/vendors, the general public and community, and unanticipated planning obstacles). But lets keep this in perspective: this is a volunteer-run organisation pulling off a party for 1 million people, involving food & beverages, zoning, licensing, entertainment, production, security and crowd control, sponsorship, and broadcast media coverage. Its a wonder that they can accomplish what they do, year after year, with only a couple of paid staff and a big crew of very committed volunteers. Its time to stop bitching, roll up your sleeves, and help each other.
Jimeny C, Hogtown ON
01/13/09 4:30 PM EST
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Re & to Ms Sandilands and Pride Toronto
It is unfortunate that Tracey Sandilands, the paid executive director of Pride, would say that she is not going to give interviews or talk to the main gay newspaper in the country. And that the Board of Pride apparently agreed with this absurd policy is even more outrageous. Xtra now includes everything from fab to the Guide (gay travel magazine) to Xtra West , Capitol xtra and xtra, the decades old Toronto-based biweekly LGBT newspaper. And there are many different viewpoints, approaches reporters in the mix. Why in the world would Pride Toronto want to cut itself off from the man gay media? I have freelanced as a writer and reporter with xtra for many years and have never been told to go after someone or in any way "put a knife" in anyone's back . Take a deep breath and get ahold of yourself Ms Sandilands. No one is out to get you and PTP does a lot of great philanthropic work in the LGBT communities. And both should work cooperatively together not against each other or at cross purposes. And reporters should to be allowed report on the news including the statements made in a formal interview of essentially public officials such as the ED of Pride. Having been a journalist for many decades, I can state with certainty that almost everyone feels they have been misquoted or taken out of context at some point. But the way to deal with this feeling is not to withdraw or attack but to continue to work with the media-- including xtra and all its publications. I think that working with the media (including the LGBT media) is a major part of your job description and if it isn't it should be. Please Ms Sandilands, don't do what so many politicians do and attack or blame the media. The messenger isn't the main problem. But perhaps the message needs to be thought out more before it is given to reporters? Wish you well Ms Sandilands after your media-wise baptism of fire. Please step back and reconsider. with pride, james dubro
james Dubro, toronto ontario
01/13/09 7:00 PM EST
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Here's the thing
The original Xtra article was a straight-forward news piece that was not especially critical of either Ms Sandilands or Pride in general. The overreaction was hypersensitive, especially for someone just learning the ropes when it comes to the specifics of the local community. This doesn't bode well. Let's all thicken our skins a little bit, it's a professional requirement.
Tony, Toronto ON
01/16/09 7:36 AM EST
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Off to a Great Start.
Xtra might want to check with the Pride Board on the approval of Tracey Sandilands not to grant interviews to Xtra. I don't think so. We couldn't find an Canadian and a person of colour to do this job. Who was on the hiring committee. Pride's support of Gareth Henry was instrumental in his successful refugee claim. Sure Pride can grow in the area of human rights but don't deny the work of many activists to make Pride many things to many communities. Pride still has problems and being defensive in answering questions about those problems is not a strategy that is going to work to change them. Shutting down the debate with silence is unproductive. Misquoted by Xtra, line up and grow up! Love it or hate it Xtra is our community paper and where would we be without it.
Proudly, Toronto ON
01/22/09 2:42 PM EST
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