More Church St joints close
COMMUNITIES / Statlers, Il Fornello, Carlton Cinemas go dark
Serafin LaRiviere / Toronto / Thursday, December 03, 2009
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The last 18 months have been rough going for consumers and businesses alike. Sure, signs of a rebounding economy are beginning to appear, but the ravages of the recession are apparent in the growing number of empty storefronts in the Church-Wellesley neighbourhood.
 
Il Fornello made a name for itself for affordable fine dining with locations across the GTA. Expanding to Church St seemed like a no-brainer to Ian Sorbie and his associates. They poured substantial resources into their gay village location.
 
But they closed their Church St location last month. Sorbie says rents are high in the area, but he feels the changes are reflective of a deeper shift in the attitudes of consumers.
 
“The area has changed, but a lot of people don’t want to admit it,” he says. “They want to think it’s still the centre of the gay universe, but gay couples are now living throughout the city and in the suburbs. That’s wonderful, but it hurts Church St businesses.”
 
Il Fornello’s Elm St location is closed too. 
 
Piano bar Statlers also closed in November. The beleaguered boîte has seen its share of drama with temporary closures and disputes with musicians. The owners couldn’t be reached before press time.
 
As Zelda’s settles into its new home on Yonge St, its former coveted Church St patio location remains vacant, at least for now.
 
One of the saddest closures is the Carlton Cinemas, on Carlton between Church and Yonge. Known for playing art-house, festival and queer films, the Carlton will go dark on Dec 6. 
 
“The Carlton is not representative [of] the quality of theatre we have,” says Cineplex spokesperson Pat Marshall of the company’s decision not to renew its lease. “It would be prohibitively expensive to remodel it up to our standard.”
 
Marshall says the downtown Scotiabank and Varsity Cineplexes show many of the same films the Carlton did, but virtually all limited-release gay titles play at just one theatre in the city: the Carlton.
 
City councillor Kyle Rae says local businesses are under undue pressure from landlords and the municipality. He says he’s determined to offset business taxes with an increase in home owners’ property taxes — something he says is long overdue. 
 
“The assessment ratio between the homeowner tax and commercial is skewed,” he says. “Homeowners in Toronto are paying far less than they should be. We have been shifting that ratio for four years so the residential owner pays more in comparison to the small business owner.
 
“I wouldn’t be surprised if council gets the blame,” he says, “but out of every tax dollar, six cents goes to paying city taxes, and the rest goes to federal and provincial.”
 
Taxes aren’t Rae’s only concern when it comes to preserving neighbourhood shops. He points to property owners who hold out for fast (though fleeting) cash from a hot new bar, or let buildings fall into disrepair while waiting for big bucks from condo developers. 
 
“We have the world coming in 2014 for World Pride and in 2015 for the Pan Am games,” says Rae. “I don’t want to be embarrassed by the failure of Church St to stand up and be proud.”
 
Enza Anderson, an outspoken advocate for the gay village, recently announced her candidacy for Ward 27 in the 2010 municipal elections.
 
“High property taxes are the work of city councillors who are more interested in big development projects instead of community revitalization,” says Anderson. 
 
Still there are bright spots.
 
One scene columnist (okay, it was in Xtra) recently wrote about speculation that Zipperz/Cellblock wasn’t paying its bills on time.
 
“It’s not true,” says owner Harry Singh, who worries about the effect on customers. “It’s hard enough running a business without your own community shooting you in the foot.” 
 
Sorry Harry, people talk and want to know.
 
Also, as Xtra goes to press, Ryerson University, Loblaw and the federal government announced a $60-million deal to turn Maple Leaf Gardens into a supermarket and athletic centre. It should open in the spring of 2011.
 
The closures represent opportunities for fresh energy in Church St’s nightlife when new bars, restaurants and retailers open. But just what that will look like depends on who leases the spaces.


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"...but the ravages of the recession are apparent in the growing number of empty storefronts in the Church-Wellesley neighbourhood." - is it the recession, or greedy landlords increasing the cost of rent? You need to clarify this. "Il Fornello made a name of itself for affordable fine dining..." - affordable??? Ginger is affordable. Pizza Pizza is affordable. Heck, even O'Grady's can be affordable. But Spending $30+ dollars for a salmon is NOT affordable. Face it, Il Fornello is expensive. Even for those who could afford it, that's not how it "made a name for itself." "...but gay couples are not living throughout the city and in the suburbs." - Have you opened your eyes? Church and Wellesley is packed with more gay people than ever before. People make a village, not bars. Sorry. "Il Fornello's Elm St location is closed too." - So maybe it's the restaurant that's failing, not the neighbourhood it's in. Duh. "One of the saddest closures is the Carlton Cinemas." - That's because fewer people are going to theatres. And that's the mainstream theatres. Lots of people download torrents if they want to watch a film. That's just a harsh reality. The golden age of cinema is over. "City councillor Kyle Rae..." - are we seriously quoting this clown? Hope he enjoyed his lonnng vacation in the summer when the city was on strike. Retire already. "One scene columnist...recently wrote about speculation that Zipperz/Cellblock wasn't paying its bills on a time." - Wow - that's a loaded accusation. Do you have proof of this? Who or what is your source? Is there a document that proves this?
Sam, Toronto ON
12/03/09 2:32 AM EST
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Sam's got some good points
There is no one answer to the spate of recent closures -- my job was to solicit opinions from folks related to the situation, not form an opinion. This included Rae, as he's the councillor for the area. Please do not take my quoting him as any sort of endorsement. Quite the opposite. I'm reporting on the situation in this article, not acting as commentator. The opinions and theories put forward are of the subjects I interviewed, not my own. In regards to the rumour printed in the scene column, you'll have to go to the writer to inquire about his sources. I was really happy to report that Zipperz is alive and well. As far as affordability goes, $30 for a main is pretty reasonable in my opinion - though I must stress that I have not had the experience of dining at Il Fornello. Ginger, Pizza Pizza etc are fast food, and O'Grady's is a pub. Il Fornello billed itself as fine dining -- a different level entirely. I suppose it's all a matter of perspective... but I do thank you for yours.
Serafin, toronto ontario
12/03/09 3:11 AM EST
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Who cares about Il Fornello
As someone who no longer lives at Church and Wellesley, restaurants aren't a huge concern for me. We're downtown - there are great restaurants all over Toronto. I don't have to eat on Church. And with the loss of This Ain't Bookstore and now the Carlton (damn!), I'm running out of reasons to visit there during the day, though I do like the barbershops and 7-24 has a great DVD selection. But the raison d'etre of a gay area - at least for people from the broader city or out of town - is the nightlife. And it's gotten pretty dull on Church. Toronto's arcane licensing/zoning bylaws and a lack of political help (Kyle?) has made reviving the club scene a non-starter. If I ever need a rainbow candle, I'll know where to go. But as far as going out clubbing? I guess we could follow Kyle Rae's lead and head to Barcelona which has a hopping nightlife scene and bars to serve every kind of fag - but first you have to find a job that lets you set your own salary, gives six weeks off (!) in summer and a month at Christmas. Outside of city council those are hard to come by.
Alex MacLean, Toronto ON
12/03/09 10:34 AM EST
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Poor Carlton
The only place I'm sad to see go is the Carlton. To me the Village died the year the Second Cup on the corner got gutted out. I don't give a crap about restaurants like Il Fornello. If I want to blow 30 bucks on salmon there are much better places I could go. Even Pride has sold its soul to big companies. I think we can expect to see McDonalds opening up in those vacant spots soon.
chris d, to on
12/03/09 10:49 AM EST
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bring it back, or start all over
I think this is symptomatic of the problems that our community has not faced in the last few years. As the spark of outrage and activism which made us so fabulous was slowly quashed by corporate conquest, we lost a part of our soul. When we failed to save the Second Cup because we didn't want to see street kids, when we didn't fight to save the Rose from becoming a townhouse, when we put Blockorama in the margins of Pride, when we ceased to keep our politics close to our heart and started giving more money to Home Depot than The 519, when Queer Nation became Egale, when AIDS became "no longer our problem", when Crews/Tango kicked out Caribbean music and then became the only dance bar on the strip, we should have seen the signs. We need a radical, anti-racist, sex-positive, community-minded, gender-ambiguous rejuvination that bring back our ever-so-queer fabulousness.
prodigal, Toronto Ontario
12/03/09 10:50 PM EST
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Give me a fucking break
Hey Prodigal, what a boring pile of bullshit. "We" failed this, "we" failed that. Don't include me in your little rant. If you failed at something take responsibility. But I don't think that's what you mean. You want to make unsubstantiated accusations at no-one in particular in a way that's just designed to make everyone feel guilty for stuff that wasn't their doing. Useless victimization whining. The stuff about Blockorama and Pride is a pure lie, Tango's is a business and can play whatever music they want (just like I don't tell Caribana what to play) and the 519 has already gotten enough of my fucking money through taxes and various fundraisers and they don't need more - they just expanded, thank you very much. So save your boring, chickenshit rant that you apparently just vomit up from the bottom of the sewer. Pathetic. Personally, I prefer my genders unambiguous, but good luck constructing your boring little PC nirvana, you and the eight other people who share that vision.
Prodigy, Toronto ON
12/05/09 3:06 AM EST
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if you build it, they will come
While I never went to Statlers or Il Fornello, it's sad that we get to look forward to more empty darkened cavaties on Church St. I suppose this means more room for thuggish crackhead hustlers to loiter about, yay! I picked the wrong time to move to the village. It's a shadow of its former self, littered with hoodlums constantly pestering people for money and smokes, now living up to its nickname the 'gay ghetto'. I sincerely hope that the new decade will see the village transformed and improved. It desperately needs some new blood. Aren't there any gay entrepreneurs in this city? Our civic and business leadership is as jaded and decrepit as the village itself. If Generation Y ever gets out of debt (speaking for myself at least) perhaps things will start to turn around. In the meantime I suggest we start a campaign to lure new movers and shakers into the neighbourhood, because the old guard has clearly failed us.
Ryan, Toronto ON
12/05/09 12:11 PM EST
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Um, Prodigal?
It isn't that we minded seeing street kids (not me anyway) it was the menacing edge of the squeegee nation which descended on Church and Wellesley in the 1990s, and air of social chaos they brought to the area. I personally grew afraid after two late night incidents which when I wouldn't part with money or smokes I was told to "fuck yourself faggot" and told I would be a "dead fag". So sorry, but I just don't buy your victimization narrative since much of the behaviour revolved around crack-induced prostitution and petty thuggery. And I took too many calls in my former job from people who were frightened and who had violent run-ins with the core group. That's not an environment I want to grow old in. You've reduced it to aesthetics, or visuals. That's not what it's about. Don't we all deserve to feel safe? Queer Nation didn't become Egale, they are two fundamentally different organizations, one radical and which lasted - as I recall - about six months in part because it allowed the demonization of white gay men who understandably stopped showing up, the other liberal and which had some mixed success, albeit in goals I didn't share (the obsession with marriage) while ignoring trans people and sex activism. I suspect that's not the only revisionist history on the list. I agree we've sold our soul to the corporate world (and the neighbourhood to condo developers) however. But I don't have another way of funding Pride, nor does the Dyke March, which takes the corporate funding and just does their own thing. No-one seems to have another way to do this thing. If you do, I'm sure they'd appreciate your involvement.
Alex MacLean, Toronto ON
12/05/09 11:19 PM EST
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take the village, please!
What hypocracy! Someone is a "chicken shit" cuz you haven't got anything smart to say about their ideas? What schoolyard did you write that from? And sorry, Alex, your "it's not that I didn't like street kids, I just didn't like them" routine is almost as sad as your thinking that Pride gets funded by people who buy condos or that white men are victims because they are white. Pathetic. If you guys are running the village now, that explains why it sucks.
sally, Toronto ON
12/06/09 10:39 AM EST
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so ...
and what are we DOING about all this??
DD, Toronto Ontario
12/06/09 1:49 PM EST
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Ed's note
Hi DD and all: It's important to keep in the mind that retail and entertainment spaces are suffering all over the city, not just in Church-Wellesley. Know also that as long as PTP has been in the news business - since the early '70s - concern for dwindling gay spaces has been a recurring theme. This is not a new phenomenon. But I say gay spaces do face a double standard: as Circa closes nobdoy heralds the death of the entertainment district. Cameron House and Big Bop close, but The Star doesn't editorialize about the end of Queen West. But a handful of businesses close on Church, the neighbourhood enters a period of renewal, and somehow people see it as the end of gay culture. There are at least three things we can do about what is happening. We can impress upon our city councillors the importance of licenced entertainment spaces near Church and Wellesley and push them to normalize the tax burden on storefront businesses. We can make great art in all forms, invest in our own creative and entrepreureal pursuits and share them broadly in gay spaces. Most importantly of all, we can continue to visit and spend at our favourite places to ensure they are fresh and exciting. Buddies, Woody's and fly have all endured for more than a decade. There are scores of other spots in the village and throughout the city that are attractive to gay types. It's up to all of us.
Matt Mills, Toronto Ont
12/06/09 7:35 PM EST
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"Double standard"
Or maybe you're just paranoid and don't read widely: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/091206/canada/canada_toronto_toronto_club_district413
Sintar, Toronto Ontario
12/07/09 10:54 AM EST
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Let's debate ideas
Sally, for someone who is concerned about hypocrisy it is rather telling that you accuse some of writing "from the schoolyard" while you shrill out and put words in people's mouths they didn't write. If you'd read me more closely, or at all, you'd see that the concern was not aesthetic, it was about safety and the squeegee kids and crack-for-sex industry was undeniably part of a growing and menacing chaos on the street. I was involved in community safety issues there for years, and it was the chief concern of seniors, especially older women and older gay men in the area. I - we- have a right to not be called "faggot" or told "die faggot" which you've either dismissed and misrepresented. There have been several incidents of gay men being targeted lately, gay white men even. One died. (If you bash us, do we not bleed?) I didn't say anything about white men being victimized because they are white. I said that this particular organization - Queer Nation - had a habit of white men being yelled down if they'd try to speak, and so several men I know - a good portion of whom are no longer alive - decided their time was better spent on AIDS activism. No one likes to be screamed at because of their race. Could you try to understand that? And I'm not running the village. So I can't say why is "sucks" if indeed it does. In fact, almost nothing you wrote bears any relation to what I wrote, whether about condos (I live in a co-op, not a condo) Pride (funded by the city, province, corporate sponsorships and individual donations - not people buying condos. Read, dammit!) You mention people not having anything "smart to say about their ideas." Your word choice includes: chickenshit, sad, pathetic, sucks and hypocrasy (sic) while not honestly engaging with anyone's actual remarks. Take your own advice and engage with ideas, rather than name-calling from the "schoolyard." Give the respect you demand. You know, glas
Alex MacLean, Toronto ON
12/09/09 1:19 AM EST
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ideas indeed
For someone who spends a great deal of time as the self-designated arbiter of community dialogue on the Xtra website, your ideas are certainly insidious. Since you were not a member of Queer Nation, you are unaware that white men were not simply “yelled down if they'd try to speak.” In fact, there were quite a few vocal white gay men in the group who believed that racism was just as important as homophobia and that it impacts us all. Obviously not the people in your circle, but it seems from your posts across this site that you struggle with any critique that would link homophobia to racism or sexism. White supremacy, patriarchy and class arrogance exist in our community and have manifested in the examples that I provided. And that doesn't mean there aren't decent or caring individuals in our community. I am talking about the organization of our society. I think you want to be thought of as progressive, but in truth all you do is contradict others' positions by constructing arguments that rely on unverifiable personal information coupled with questionable facts, dissect each post diligently and then claim to be misread if you don't like someone's reaction to your response. I agree that we all have the right to be safe, and that no one should have to put up with homophobic violence or threats, but your position implies anyone who questions the maligning of street youth supports bashing. Maybe instead of auditioning for a writing post that doesn't seem to be coming by picking at everyone else's words, you might want to take a look at what you actually stand for. Mr. Rae suffered from the fact that his professed values did not reflect his actions or beliefs. That cost him a great deal of respect. Perhaps you could take a lesson from that.
prodigal, Toronto Ontario
12/10/09 12:00 AM EST
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Lack Of Caring
I beleive its a lack of caring on Kyle Rae's part. If he really cared he would do something about it. Its also a lack of care by CWBIA. I had a great laugh the other day reading their tweets on twitter as they said that we should support our community and shop in the village. I don't even think the CWBIA is based in the village anymore, if they were they would know there is no place to shop. Unless you wanna buy something from Super Fresh Mart for mom and dad Christmas morning. Without Kyle Rae's help and the CWBIA we will see more stores close. Has anyone seen Aveda, the restaurant underneath the gay traveling place, open. I haven't seen them open in a while. Are they gone? Either way I think there will be more stores closing unfortunately. We need some new people to open stores in teh area and more importantly, new commercial property owners that care about the community and not looking for a fast buck. I hope all the stores remain vacant well into 2010 to teach the commercial slumlords a lesson.
Adam, Toronto Ontario
12/10/09 3:32 AM EST
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As You Sow ...
Can compassion be deserved by a community that criminalizes it's HIV brother's? Good luck, with your WORLD PRIDE IN 2016. While you dither calling yourselves a world class city, send emissaries abroad and back to convince the innocent of Toronto the good, I will stand here to warn the internationally minded gay that Toronto is a city that persecutes it's own HIV gay brothers, You are a mid-western or worse west African suburb by outlook more like Uganda and Iowa than San Francisco and Amsterdam. I mind is a terrible thing to waste and wasted it you have on eternal self-attacks on each other, mean spirit community values, and a lack of real human warmth. Long Live the Village! The Village is Dead!
Mark Midensky, Toronto Ontario
12/10/09 3:32 PM EST
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A viable bar scene
I hate to see the demise of real piano bars. A real piano, a good singer/pianist/schmoozer playing it, lights dim everywhere except on the entertainer, not too loud because not everybody is there for the music, some want to converse. Seats around the piano for those who want to be engaged with the music. It's the atmosphere that counts. A keyboard with tracks, rhythm machine and a PA that would have been okay at Woodstock ain't it, might as well have karaoke.
Bob Smith, Mississauga Ont
12/10/09 6:05 PM EST
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Projection indeed
I think you want to be thought of as progressive, but in truth all you do is contradict others' positions by constructing arguments that rely on unverifiable personal information coupled with questionable facts, dissect each post diligently and then claim to be misread if you don't like someone's reaction to your response. ---------------------------------------- Wow. Rarely does one encounter such a perfect example of projection. Personal anecdotes are by definition unverifiable, and you have your share of those. I don't wish to be thought of as progressive; as the master narrative of Western culture, 'progress' has brought us to the brink of planetary ruin by chewing up and spitting out everything it encounters. Progress is a lie. So, wrong here too! And for the record, I think racism is a worse problem - by a long shot - than homophobia. So you really aren't 'getting' me, despite being an avid reader of my comments by your own admission. I think there is much value in self-reflexivity, but not that based on the ramblings of an anonymous someone online who speaks in a inane political cant peppered with cheap shots. Lying in wait with that kind of commentary behind a nom de plume? More than a little creepy. As for the auditioning/writing snark, no. No interest. But there are many blogs out there that cater to this kind of deterministic thinking about patriarchy, white supremacy, yadda yadda. Good luck with getting a gig.
Alex MacLean, toronto on
12/11/09 8:19 AM EST
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You can have the last word, Prodigal.
When we failed to save the Second Cup because we didn't want to see street kids...AIDS became no longer our problem...Queer Nation became EGALE ---------------------------------------- Can you prove these preposterous statements? Your position makes it clear that YOUR 'insidious idea' is that the concern about continuum of street kids/dealers/squeegees which arose in the Church/Wellesley area was simply reactionary and intolerant and based on not wanting to LOOK AT THEM. For the 3rd time, it isn't about looks. Most of the literally hundreds of people I've discussed these issues with were concerned about their community's safety in the wake of a slew of muggings and swarmings and many asked for a stronger police presence in the neighbourhood -- a marked change of position for many gay men who had had less than stellar relations with the police 'til this point. Yet you choose to ignore this. And I've never said that speaking out against maligning of street youth supports bashing. I've simply presented another side of this, i.e. the romanticization of street youth as victims of white patriarchal capitalism rubs many people the wrong way, especially those who have had frightening encounters with them. I think they are guilty of a misplaced soft-headedness, but I've never explicitly nor implicitly said that they support bashing. I can disagree with people and even vigorously debate with them without coming to the conclusion that they wish me or others harm. What a ridiculous statement, more evidence that you'll twist my words to reach whatever conclusion fits your ideological narrative and need for simplistic binary oppositions. Anyway, I'm ignoring you from now on unless you actually have the guts to come out of the shadows, use your name and start explaining how you've reached some of your conclusions, insinuations and character defamation. Whoever you are.
Alex MacLean, toronto on
12/11/09 11:58 AM EST
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Here's an IDEA
Here's a thought for Kyle Rae, instead of ALWAYS looking for MORE TAX money from one segment of society or another, why don't you head over to city hall and get your friends there to find ways to cut some fat and maybe take a few night school courses on how to do budgets. The leadership (as if) has all but spent Toronto into the ground. I'll be so glad to see the likes of you and Mayor Miller long gone.
Jeff Taylor, Toronto Ontario
12/13/09 12:08 AM EST
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