Jewish Defense League likens gays to Nazis
TORONTO NEWS / Protesters demonstrate outside TD Bank
Andrea Houston / Toronto / Wednesday, April 13, 2011
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The Jewish Defense League (JDL) is attempting to organize an April 15 protest at the offices of Pride Toronto (PT). “During the Nazi era, many high-ranking Nazis were gay,” the JDL Facebook invitation reads in part.
JDL spokesperson Meir Weinstein, as seen at the QuAIA contingent staging area for the 2010 Toronto Pride parade.
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That statement is “inane, meaningless and nonsense,” says Canadian Jewish Congress CEO Bernie Farber. “Is the JDL trying to suggest that gays and lesbians are Nazis?”

Farber says that he resents the frequent misuse and abuse of “Nazi analogies” and that he is “calling the JDL out on its stupidity.”

“They shouldn’t be protesting Pride Toronto, anyway,” says Farber. “They should be protesting QuAIA.”

“We are taking the gay community that runs this parade to task,” says Meir Weinstein, national director of the JDL’s Canadian branch. “We are speaking out against this vile, anti-Jewish, anti-Israel group.”

Farber says the “temperature needs to be toned down” in this debate. “By throwing out ridiculous epithets, we will not accomplish what we need to accomplish, which is to disallow hateful statements in the Pride parade. This kind of statement turns people off.”

PT co-chair Francisco Alvarez says he supports the JDL’s right to free speech, “just as we support everyone’s right to free speech.”

On April 10 a group staged a protest outside the Bathurst and Lawrence TD Bank branch says Scott Mullin, vice-president of government and community relations at TD Bank Financial Group.

Mullin says about 35 people attended the demonstration. Their message was that TD Bank, PT’s main corporate financial backer, should discontinue its support of the festival.

“The people protesting were concerned about our sponsorship of Pride,” Mullin says.

“We have no plans currently [to pull out of sponsorship], but obviously there is a very strong debate going on surrounding the Pride parade and who gets to participate. So we’ve had people express their views in a variety of ways, some write letters. A demonstration like on Sunday doesn’t happen very often.”

Mullen says he supports PT as it implements the Community Advisory Panel (CAP) report.

“A lot of consultation went into that report,” he says. “I trust the dispute-resolution process. I’m hopeful that it will lead to some quiet around this issue, and we can get back to focusing on what Pride is supposed to be about, which is a celebration of the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community.”

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Here's a video, including a brief section with Weinstein at about 1:20, from the 2010 Pride parade.


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JDL-Canada are ZIO-NAZIS
JDL Canada has officially joined with the English Defence League, a neo-nazi organization based in England, as well as other international hate groups, in an Islamophobic international alliance of Muslim hate and paranoia. JDL's Meir Weinstein stated he supports the burning of the Koran. So this Kachist, Zio-Nazi has no call to point fingers at anyone. Why is he still being funded and protected by his community to continue with his fulminations? Why is he still favoured with connections to Tory Ministers like Kenney and Kent?
John Gilberts, Toronto Ontario
04/13/11 3:08 PM EST
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Nope
The event is because an anti-jewish group is invited to the manifestation. Gays or not. Never again. (BTW gays woud have been killed during the holocaust so why invite these nazi scum?) You damn hypocrits.
Tzadok Ben Ori, Stockholm stockholm
04/13/11 5:08 PM EST
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One persecuted group crosses paths with another...
Any time censorship of expression or interference with freedom to have such a parade unmolested, is a form of oppression. For Gay Pride to include QuAIA is justified in that they seek to show a Queer face that has a particular political view for/against what they believe is unjust elsewhere. Although, I disagree fully with QuAIA viewpoint, I believe they can freely join Gay Pride as participating members unmolested. Their purpose is to bring awareness to others about their views, even if yet others disagree. If the JDL want to have a voice, let it be elsewhere directed at QuAIA on non-Gay Pride events, as JDL is strictly a non-Gay position, but purely a politically Pro-Jewish in purpose. If the JDL want to have a Pro-Gay voice, then they can obviously be a part of Gay Pride. If Jewish Gays want to take a Jewish/Israeli Oppression voice, they too can be part of Gay Pride, but not specifically to attack other members of Gay Pride, who are Gay/Queer/Trans, that have other views. I am a Christian and Trans, so you can imagine where I don't fit in so good around here in Canada (Bill C-389 didn't pass inclusion to CHRA!) or anywhere else on this Planet!
SDYue, Mississauga Ontario
04/13/11 8:39 PM EST
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gay pride israel, JDL
In the USA i just noticed that the jewish defense league is a hate group, per the Southern Poverty Law center, which monitors the now 1000 hate groups in the USA. (website is those 4 words run together. Hate group list is available by subscribing to their magazine. I think this is the same group that may have murdered people back in the 1970s and the name Meyer kahan (? spelling) comes to mind. I can understand the JDL and Jews being paranoid about protecting Israel, but when they begin to attack the gay pride people, thats over the line. BTW, the guy in the blue shirt - with the light hair and the nice but big man titties - hes utterly cute. think my wife will have a coniption when ai tell her that? (smsiles)
Stevemd2, Baltimore MD USA
04/13/11 9:38 PM EST
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JDL not supported by Jewish community
John Gilberts, what gives you the idea that the JDL's Meir Winestein is ..."still being funded and protected by his community". Didn't you read Mr. Farber's comments? The CJC pretty well represents the jewish community and it looks like it has not much to do with the JDL.
Jim H, Woodbridge Ont.
04/13/11 11:34 PM EST
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Jim H
Well the jewish community is not supported by the JDL. Too many times you have sucked up to islamists and jewhaters. You are Traitors to the jewish people. and again.. the protest isnt against homosexuals, but the fact that Pride invites hideous jewhaters that are pro-hamas.
Tzadok Ben Ori, Stockholm stockholm
04/14/11 1:07 AM EST
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Canadian Jews don't support the JDL
The vast vast majority of Canadian Jews consider the JDL to be an extremist hate group.
MR, Toronto Ont.
04/14/11 1:16 AM EST
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MR
Sir, thats bullshit. Most jews support JDL they just dont have the guts to admitt it. MvH Tzadok Ben Ori
Tzadok Ben Ori, Stockholm stockholm
04/14/11 1:33 AM EST
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Will they also protest the South Paw convention?
Some high ranking Nazis were gay? What's the point? The HIGHEST ranking Nazi was Jewish! Is that supposed to be significant too? Some of the most high ranking Nazis were also left handed. Does that make all left handed people suspect? Such an incredibly ignorant statement intended to incite hatred and suspicion of gay people. Really, Hitler himself would be proud of such tactics since he was so good at using them against Jews AND gays.
TampaZeke, Tampa FL
04/14/11 10:35 AM EST
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Most Jews are not anti-gay
Jews are overwhelmingly "liberal" when it comes to gay rights. Surveys done at the time of the gay marriage debate showed that when the public was split 50/50 on the issue, the vast majority of Canadian Jews supported gay marriage, the right for gay couples to adopt children, etc. The CJC has long supported gay rights and most recently took on a homophobic Chabad Lubavitch rabbi who had appointed as a police chaplain in York Region. The homophobic JDL is completely out of sync on this issue. Good to see Farber take them on.
MR, MR Ont.
04/14/11 11:23 AM EST
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JDL = extreme fringe
"According to a 1986 survey conducted for the American Jewish Committee by Professor Steven M. Cohen, 14 percent of American Jews professed strong sympathy for Kahane, a proportion that rose to 30 percent among the 500,000-strong Orthodox community." - Robert Friedman, The False Prophet, p. 6
MR, Toronto Ont.
04/14/11 12:04 PM EST
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Show up and support PT
So now this dyke knows just a little how lefty Jews must feel when the likes of the JDL calls them Nazis. Let's not forget where our pink triangle comes from. Thanks for the story, Xtra, and if anyone has info on the time this demo is to take place, please post it here so those who remember who the real Nazis were/are can show up to support Pride Toronto.
Jules, Toronto ON
04/14/11 4:27 PM EST
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JDL Protest Is Friday, Noon@Pride
JDL Canada plans to picket Pride this Friday @ noon. Please come and counter protest them.
John, Toronto Ontario
04/14/11 5:47 PM EST
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I'm a Jew that supports the JDL
Bernie Farber should retire and is an embarrassment to Jews like me.
Clifford, Hawkesbury Ontario
04/14/11 6:06 PM EST
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I'm a Jew that supports the JDL
Bernie Farber should retire and is an embarrassment to Jews like me. Hey editor will you delete this post too?
Clifford, Hawkesbury Ontario
04/14/11 8:36 PM EST
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irratiomaHate is found in all right wing religioun
the JDL is in the USA considered a hate group by the southern poverty law center which tracks hate groups nationwide. They are little different then the FRC and AFA, which have ties to the Ku Klux Klan. IN israel in jan 2009, a couple orthodox memebers of the knesset (parlimaent) said "gays are like bird flu" a call for the genocide of the gays by people whose close relatives , possibly parents shared hitlers ovens with the gays of germany. Am I wrong in looking for a gay arabic speaker, who would put their names up on Hamas websites as the jews who would throw the palestinians into the sea (which I'm sure is correct) Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my friend. May Allah greet those creeps as he throws them into the firepit. BTW, I and my wife are Jewish by birth, although I now consider myself an aethist. For my wife, friday nights are now known as 'widows night', while she will kid me as I go off to see my gay friends in the gay bar as "what is it tonite? gay, gay and more gay. (smiles)
Stevemd2, baltimore, md D usa
04/14/11 10:19 PM EST
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Free speech? Really?
John Gilberts, haha, good one! I guess that distiguishes them from old school nazis like you, eh?
Free Speech, Toronto ON
04/14/11 10:35 PM EST
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PINK SWASTIKA = ANTI GAY
Scott Lively is a noted anti-gay activist and the president of Abiding Truth Ministries, a conservative Christian organization, co-authored the book The Pink Swastika [2002], which states in the preface that "homosexuals [are] the true inventors of Nazism and the guiding force behind many Nazi atrocities. Lively's view is that gays are 'agents of America’s moral decline. addressing members of the Ugandan parliament in their national assembly hall when the anti-homosexuality law was just being considered, it called for the death penalty for being gay. This argument is not about the Jewish state, this is about anti gay sentiments. Aligning us with the hatred this man spouts? How can this be tolerated in our jewish communities?
Michael Str8 jewish and angry, Toronto ON
04/15/11 12:41 AM EST
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JDL out of sync with normal Jews
Tzadok Ben Ori, you live in Stockholm Sweden what the hell do you know about the Canadian Jewish community? Tzadok Ben Ori, the JDL have a few followers; fellow extremists who like their leader sees antisemites in every pothole. The overwhelming number of Jews in Canada embrace CJC and welcome sane, rational comments from people like Bernie Farber. Your comments and those of your fellow-traveller, Clifford from Hawkesbury Ontario (a real Jewish enclave!!??) are proof positive how out of sync you are with the more normal Jewish community.
Shmuel, Toronto Ontario
04/15/11 3:07 PM EST
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A point about the JDL
Many Jews don't know the specifics about the JDL. What Jew wouldn't support a Jewish defense league? What Catholic wouldn't support a Catholic defense league? -- At it's face it sounds great. It sounds like any advocacy group. I wouldn't ask a random Jew if they support the JDL and form a judgement on them because of it for that reason. As it turns out, an extremist and hate-filled organization uses this name. If people knew how out of step this organization was with the rest of Toronto Jewish culture and the specifics of its history, I know it would be rejected by the vast, vast majority. Toronto Jewish people are far from extremist.
Brian, Toronto Ontario
04/15/11 3:49 PM EST
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Modern Day Stern Gang
These bastards are no better than the Stern Gang, siding with people who would destroy their people in the name of being hateful assholes who happen to hate every one the neonazis hate. Contemptible morons.
LDM, Montreal Quebec
04/15/11 4:36 PM EST
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Re: Nope
Tzadok Ben Ori, you clearly don't know what the group Queer Against Israeli Apartheid represents. Despite their name (I disagree with the use of the term apartheid) they are in support of an Israel that does not discriminate against people based on their religion or ethnicity. Just because people have a criticism about certain policies in Israel and the way the state treats certain people it does not make them anti-semitic. By that definition anyone who disagreed with the Bush administration would be considered anti-american, or any one who disagrees with the Conservative party of Canada's policies would be anti-Canadian. While there maybe members in the group who are anti-semitic there are also memebers in the group who are Israeli, and who are Jewish. Further more a Jewish group likening another group that was also put into death camps from 1936-1945 (then into prisons afterward, the pink triangle weren't released) to Nazis is incredibly disgusting, degrating, and insulting. The JDL should be appalled with themselves. I wonder how they would feel being compared to Nazis?
Jon, Toronto Ontario
04/20/11 4:14 PM EST
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JDL EXCELLENCE
The J D L,represents a voice of the people that believe in the right to be Jewish and proud. They do not represent hate, nor are they radical. They are law abiding Jews who live in a democracy, thy don't suck up to organization that are about names and titles and so called causes for Jews and Israel, but they do represent that never again, will Jews walk into death camps with there children and elders without a fight. And that fight will not be an easy one to all you haters, modern day NAZI sympathizers and racist groups, Jewish and non Jewish. Don't judge them by what took place in America long ago, judge them for not bowing to ignorance.
KINGZOFKINGZ INC., TORONTO ON
05/14/11 10:29 PM EST
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@Jon
You're right. Not everyone who disagreed with the Bush administration was considered anti-American. But if someone got obsessed with it, joined organisations about it, went on and on about it, felt the need to make incorrect statements about it, made fuzzy connections between Bush and Americans as a whole -- well, then, yes, I would consider that person to have anti-American motives.
Jim, Toronto Ontario
05/15/11 6:28 AM EST
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