Honouring innovative outreach in bathhouses
TORONTO NEWS / ACT's Marco Posadas to get Ontario Association of Social Workers award
Andrea Houston / Toronto / Monday, March 18, 2013
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The AIDS Committee of Toronto's (ACT) Marco Posadas is being honoured for his groundbreaking outreach work counselling men in Toronto bathhouses.

The Ontario Association of Social Workers (OASW) will present Posadas with the 2013 Inspirational Leader Award at the group’s next annual meeting, in May.

The gay psychoanalyst has been bringing mental health to gay men in three Toronto bathhouses since 2009. He developed TowelTalk to support men who might not otherwise seek professional counselling or who have fallen through the cracks.

“Marco is doing such innovative work,” says OASW’s Tracey Nesbitt. “He has been speaking at conferences all over the world, and people are really looking at TowelTalk as a model for reducing the transmission of HIV and STI.”

Nesbitt says also that Posadas is a wonderful and affable advocate for the profession of social work.

“His students are fascinated and engaged in what he talks about, and he clearly has such a passion for what he does,” she says. “He has found a great way to connect with people at a point when they are about to make a decision, and it’s about helping them make a decision that is best for them.”
ACT's Marco Posadas is being honoured by the Ontario Association of Social Workers for TowelTalk.
(Andrea Houston (file photo))


The peer-nominated award is presented once a year in March, which is Social Work Month in Canada.

OASW is also recognizing Posadas for his private-practice work with queer newcomers and people in underserved communities.

Posadas says he is humbled by and grateful for the honour. “It’s wonderful to be recognized for the work that I do, which is about carving a space to focus on the mental health of LGBT people and opening up spaces for people to start talking about their own experiences,” he says.

When he works in bathhouses, Posadas wears a shirt with the words “Wanna Talk?” and greets guests with a welcoming smile. “It’s a time where men can talk about anything they need support in -- relationships, depression, being married to a man or a woman, HIV disclosure, substance abuse, housing, immigration, anything,” he told Xtra in 2011 before presenting his work at the International Psychoanalytical Studies Organization conference in his home country of Mexico.

And his idea is catching on. Local HIV groups in cities across Canada have contacted ACT for information on starting their own version of TowelTalk. “There is a TowelTalk in Winnipeg, and we have been speaking to people in Vancouver, who are very interested in the program," Posadas says, noting it’s important to keep finding ways to bring mental health to marginalized groups.

“These type of interventions can address an anti-oppressive perspective in terms of mental health for LGBT and work within the intersection of psychoanalysis and homosexuality," he says. "It’s bridging the gaps.”
 


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too much ego not enough evaluation
Toronto Public Health did bathhouse outreach and counselling in the 1990s! The late Bob Tivey first Executive Director of AIDS Vancouver to name one worked for TPH doing bathhouse work in the early 90s along with others. So this is hardly some new idea! This effort is too much about this one guy and not enough about success markers, evaluative outcomes, prevention rates, mental health impact criteria and measurements. Or is it all just another Facebookian feel-good "friends" not "haters" ego massages, expensive speaking trips and related ASO perks.
david, Toronto ON
03/19/13 12:16 PM EST
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Evaluation report
Here is the evaluation report from the TowelTalk program: http://www.actoronto.org/research.nsf/pages/toweltalk
Peter, Toronto Ontario
03/19/13 2:51 PM EST
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thanks
for that 2009-10 document
d, Toronto ON
03/19/13 5:27 PM EST
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Sorry David, what was that?
Can't hear you with your foot jammed so firmly in your mouth.
Patrick, Toronto ON
03/19/13 5:57 PM EST
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lucky I have a foot fetish
No foot jammed, bitch. I don't like this hero worship when another article just exposed the total lack of programs for gay men and mental illness in Toronto. OK one guy is doing a tiny bit of work begun decades ago and claiming it as salvation social work. Why not investigate the issue further rather than Award Show this one guy (who has been featured in Xtra 3 times). Is that satisfactory or do you need a more cunty response like go fuck your mother, Swampy.
d, Toronto ON
03/19/13 6:26 PM EST
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The joke's on you
You assumed the program had never been evaluated, and when shown that it had been, you had to eat your words. And maybe you would be featured in Xtra as well if you got up off your ass and actually did something to contribute to the community, rather than sitting back in your armchair finishing off a two-four while you snipe at people who are actually trying to make a difference.
Patrick, Toronto On
03/19/13 7:53 PM EST
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Patsy Stunned
But that would not be any fun. ps I don't drink but... Put down that bottle, Patsy.
d, Toronto ON
03/19/13 9:22 PM EST
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Measurable outcomes for HIV prevention?
I don’t think Patrick should be so smug. Firstly, the evaluation report at the above link posted by Peter appears to have been prepared by ACT personnel, rather than an independent, qualified evaluator. Secondly, the report states that: (1) In the first year of the program, there was one counsellor who carried out 88 counselling sessions with men in bathhouses, only 6 of whom continued to access TowelTalk counselling at ACT – page 4. (2) Counselling sessions last between 10 and 45 minutes, and in the first year, averaged 28.2 minutes. (3) The majority of sessions during the first year of the program were one-off single sessions – page 28. When you consider these numbers, 88 sessions at an average length of 28.2 minutes represents an aggregate of about 2,482 minutes or about 41 hours. Only 41 hours of counselling in the first year of the program is not very impressive. Thirdly, the report’s authors do not appear to have set out a framework or a methodology to determine where such brief, limited sessions in a bathhouse had any measurable outcomes for HIV prevention – in particular, whether such brief, limited sessions actually caused the participants to change their behaviour (e.g., to stop barebacking, to be more consistent in using condoms, to stop having sex in a bathhouse while drunk or stoned, to stop putting themselves in high-risk situations for HIV transmission). In the absence of such measurable outcomes, one can’t do a cost-benefit analysis of ACT’s TowelTalk program or a value-for-money audit of the program. Therefore, we can’t answer the question of whether the taxpayer and donor dollars that ACT spends on the TowelTalk program actually reduces barebacking and HIV transmission among men who have sex with men in bathhouses. The question therefore remains whether the taxpayer and donor dollars would be better used elsewhere.
Ben, Toronto ON
03/20/13 12:21 AM EST
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Wrong again
A simple google search of the report's authors shows that only 1 of the 5 co-authors works for ACT. The rest are renowned professionals in the HIV/AIDS field independent of ACT, with more credentials than you've offered. If you're actually interested in the outcomes of the program, why don't you ask them? Since all the other assumptions written above were proven wrong, it might be a good idea.
Peter, Toronto Ontario
03/20/13 1:19 PM EST
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Bathhouse owner?
Is that you Peter? Sticking up for your bathhouse/HIV infection centre? How many people have gotten infected with HIV in the various bathhouses that you managed or owned over the years?
George, Toronto ON
03/20/13 9:19 PM EST
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@Peter
Peter, the evaluation report at the above link was for 2009-2010. The report was written by 5 people. Of those 5 people, 4 had existing or previous roles with ACT. Therefore, I don’t think it can be said that the report was prepared by evaluators who were independent of ACT. In general, a person is not independent if they have an existing or past relationship with the subject which could reasonably be expected to interfere with the person’s independent judgment. If you are employed or were recently employed by ACT, you are generally not seen as being independent. If you helped ACT develop plans or programs as a consultant, you are generally not seen as being able to independently critique the organization’s efforts in respect of those plans and programs. If you conduct research for ACT, you are generally not seen as being independent. The particulars of the 4 authors with existing or previous roles with ACT are as follows: (1) Jessica Cattaneo has been a manager at ACT from 2009 to present. Source: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/jessica-cattaneo/48/216/157 (2) Roy Cain, acted as a consultant for ACT in developing their strategic plan for 1996-1998. Source: http://www.actoronto.org/home.nsf/pages/strategicplan9698 Cain also acted as a member of ACT’s Research Advisory Committee in 2000. Source: http://www.actoronto.org/research.nsf/pages/dance+scene (3) Trevor Hart has conducted research for ACT. Source: http://www.actoronto.org/research.nsf/pages/resactivities (4) James Murray worked for seven years at ACT. Source: http://www.actoronto.org/research.nsf/pages/rac
Ben, Toronto ON
03/20/13 10:24 PM EST
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Let it go
Ben, dear, nice web searches, but no. Consulting for an organization in 1996-1998 doesn't mean you can't evaluate their programs more than 10 years later. Why are you so obsessed? Just let it go.
Alex, Toronto ON
03/20/13 11:59 PM EST
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@Alex
If the TowelTalk program was abolished tomorrow, I don't think it would make a difference in HIV infection rates among gay men and other MSM in Toronto. Social worker types can keep circulating among various ASOs and keep giving each other jobs and contracts out of taxpayer money, but it doesn't make a real difference in HIV prevention.
Ben, Toronto ON
03/21/13 12:07 AM EST
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Suggestions for redirecting funding for Ben
Ben, I think you are right. We should advocate to abolish TowelTalk, and redirect those funds so that the province can buy the hubble telescope to help you find your penis.
Mary Alice Louise, Toronto Ontario
03/21/13 12:33 AM EST
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@Mary Alice Louise
Life really doesn't change much from the playground in elementary school. If you think or act differently from the crowd, you will be insulted and taunted. As a gay kid, it hurt. As a gay adult, you just realize that's the way it is. The strong ones survive and the weak ones fall away. :)
Ben, Toronto ON
03/21/13 12:45 AM EST
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To Patrick.
You said to d,"And maybe you would be featured in Xtra as well if you got up off your ass and actually did something to contribute to the community, rather than sitting back in your armchair finishing off a two-four while you snipe at people who are actually trying to make a difference." Let me be perfectly clear to you as you seem to need a little schooling. There are untold numbers of Gay Men doing "something" to contribute to the "community" in many different ways. Often without pay and therefore not part of the established "progressive" hierarchy. In some cases they're actively saving/saved their fellow gay brother's lives through their interventions. No they are not in XTRA but XTRA is not a determinant for meaningful and effective contribution to the community. If anything it is in-congruent with that important work. I hope this helps you in your ridiculous notions as posted. Thank you.
Tim, Toronto ON
03/21/13 9:03 AM EST
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I never understand why people
get awards for doing what they are well- paid to do? I don't get it? I don't get the character of someone who would accept an award with that being the case? It all seems a little unseemly to me.
Lu, Toronto ON
03/21/13 9:15 AM EST
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Damned awards!
Right on Lu! This guy, Nobel prize winners, MVPs in sports teams, decorated war heroes, medal-winning Olympians, actors winning Tonys, Oscars, musicians winning Grammys, journalists getting Pulitzers .. they're just people getting an award for doing their job! That's crazy! And the fucking gall of a group of professionals rewarding one of their peers for good work... why it just sickens me so. Unseemly indeed!
Yo momma, Toronto ON
03/21/13 9:31 AM EST
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Nobel Prize indeed....
Barrack Obama comes to mind. Ridiculous. And this guy (the latest hero to worship) is getting it for an "innovative" project. But a quick visit to the Gay Lesbian Archives I think one will see Bathhouse Outreach was done in the late 70's and the early 80's at the Club (Baths)Toronto. I think this is more about ACT re-branding something old to justify their funding. Filling the "innovative" Outreach positions with newly arrived people who haven't lived the history of Toronto and voila! We've got our winner! Marco Posadas in an earlier article said he came to Canada for Opportunity, we'll congrats to Marco. As to YO MAMMA, equating decorated War Hero's or Olympians as the same as Marco Posadas, well...............
Lu, Toronto ON
03/21/13 10:12 AM EST
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Multiple personalities show need for counseling
David/Ben/Lu, the project is bathhouse counseling, not outreach. Something that could benefit you maybe?
Peter, Toronto Ontario
03/21/13 11:05 AM EST
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Lu: that whooshing sound..
... is my point flying directly overhead. I'm not comparing Marcos Posadas specifically to decorated War Hero's or Olympians - rather (once you take the entire statement into consideration) that people are recognized for good work in many many fields. Why would this be different? As to your insistence that "outreach" is nothing new, read Peter's point: "outreach" != TowelTalk's counseling. Also, since you're so with the times, ACT still performs the same outreach services (distributing sexual health information and safer sex supplies) in bathhouses.
Yo momma, Toronto ON
03/21/13 11:23 AM EST
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Counselling....
one can't do "counseling" in a Bath House. What one can do is perhaps have a little chat, use the well-paid opportunity to hand out your card to the marginalized and vulnerable people you come across and build up your own private counseling business. Back in the day counseling (as such)was done in the bathhouse as well. This is nothing more than putting lipstick on a pig and calling it something else it's for funding and justification of ACT purposes. Further, I tend to agree with the earlier posting. This is all getting a little hero ego worship like. Completely unseemly. I smell a rat. Same ole same ole.
Yo mamma, Toronto ON
03/21/13 12:13 PM EST
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@Ben
Ben, sweety... if you were so hurt as a child, and you feel you need to be the strong one now to survive perhaps you should talk to Mr. Posadas. Apparently he is really good at working with trauma issues such as the ones you haven't dealt with. You can find him and other counsellors in bathhouses in the city.
Mary Alice Louise, Toronto Ontario
03/23/13 12:09 AM EST
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@Mary Alice Louise and @Peter
Mary Alice Louise: I am very confident in who I am. :) Peter: I am not David or Lu in the above posts. I think you're intelligent enough to know that all these anti-QuAIA comments come from two posters. Always two there are, no more, no less. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6gpXiI81U4
Ben, Toronto ON
03/23/13 12:54 AM EST
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Congrats Marco
I support Marco, Ben is jealous!
Dave Bustos, London UK
03/23/13 10:39 AM EST
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Confidential to Dave Bustos (no relation)
One can “support Marco” while questioning the theoretical and actual effectiveness of bathhouse “counselling.”
Joe Clark, Toronto ON
03/27/13 1:00 PM EST
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