Gay couple denied apartment in Brampton
TORONTO NEWS / Rental agent instructed not to rent to gay couples
Andrea Houston / Toronto / Thursday, July 26, 2012
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A gay couple is filing a human rights complaint against a rental agent in Brampton after she denied them an apartment because the landlord does not want to rent the property to gay people.

After searching several weeks for an apartment, Thiago Derucio and his boyfriend, Chris Prentice, found a place using an agency called Rental Diva and called to book a time to look at the space.

When Prentice called, Juliet Stewart, the operator of Rental Diva, said the apartment was still available. When Stewart asked who would be renting it, Prentice replied that he'd be living there with his partner.

“She said, ‘You and your partner. What does that mean? Are you gay?’” Derucio says. “So he said yes.”

Stewart then told Prentice that the landlord explicitly said the apartment should not be rented to gay couples. She then ended the call.
Thiago Derucio was told he could not rent an apartment with his boyfriend because they are gay.

Once the shock wore off, Derucio says, he called back. “I was pissed and hurt. So I called her back.

"When I asked if she is denying apartments to gay people, she said, ‘That’s right. My client doesn’t like gay people, and we have every right to decide who lives in the apartment and who doesn’t.'”

When Derucio reminded her there are protections in the Ontario Human Rights Code (OHRC) to ensure landlords can’t discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, “She said, ‘Don’t go all gay rights on me. Get off my phone.’ Then she hung up the phone on me."

Derucio says he and Prentice plan to file a complaint with the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal.

Stewart confirms that she discriminated against the couple, noting that she was only “protecting” Prentice and Derucio from a homophobic landlord. It was “too risky” for a gay couple to live in that apartment, she says.

“My clients are exempt [from the OHRC] because they are Seventh-day Adventists. They’re religious. That’s their religion,” Stewart says. “They told me that they don’t want [gay people]. Look, I’m a person of colour. I know what it’s like to be discriminated against. You can’t force someone to do something they don’t want to do. There’s jobs I didn’t get. I wish someone had of told me, ‘Don’t show up because you’re black.’ I wish they would do that because I wouldn’t waste my time. That’s a part of life.”
"Housing providers offering rental opportunities to the public need to do so in a non-discriminatory way," says Barbara Hall.
(Andrea Houston)

Stewart says it’s not her place to “push [homosexuality] down their throats" and she doesn't want to risk losing the client.

“If I said anything, the client would get angry,” she says. “I don’t want to lose my contract with them for going against what they said they didn’t want.”

When informed that Prentice and Derucio plan to file a human rights complaint, Stewart replied, “So be it. If they want to go after me, go after me. I’m the messenger.”

Barbara Hall, chief commissioner of the OHRC, says a human rights complaint is very serious and could result in damages paid to the complainant.

“The code applies to all rental housing arrangements,” she says. “Housing providers offering rental opportunities to the public need to do so in a non-discriminatory way.”

Hall says the complaint could be directed at both the landlord and Rental Diva. “An agent can't rely on the fact that they’ve been told to breach the code. That doesn’t let them off the hook. They’re liable, as is the landlord.”

Once a complaint is filed, the agent and the landlord would have to submit a defence. Some cases go through a long process, others are settled along the way, Hall says. “Often when people realize how clear the law is, and realize that they really don’t have a defence, they settle it.”

If it goes to a hearing at the tribunal and the agent and landlord are found to have discriminated, they could be ordered to pay damages or take a course on human rights.

“It’s humiliating and hurtful for people who are denied their rights under the code,” Hall says. “It’s hard enough to find housing that people can afford without having that thrown at them.”

The OHRC regularly hears complaints about landlords discriminating against gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans people. So many that in 2011, the OHRC published a housing policy to highlight that section of the code. 

“Fifty years ago, one of the motivators for the code in the first place was because landlords put signs outside of apartments saying, ‘No Jews,’ ‘No blacks.’ You don’t see those anymore, but there is still discrimination,” Hall says.



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This doesn't surprise me
I grew up in Brampton, and even people I didn't know would scream "FAG" at me as I walked down the street. Its not the most progressive city. However it still surprises me that people will be so stupid as to think just because they have certain religious beliefs it makes them exempt of the OHRC. Religious Beliefs and Freedoms don't trump Human Rights. And the Human Rights Code is clear on this. I hope the couple get major $$ from both the rental agent and the landlord. And better that the landlord sells the property to someone with a brain!
John, London ONTARIO
08/01/12 12:20 PM EST
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reverse Discrimination
"I wish someone had of told me, ‘Don’t show up because you’re black.' Reverse Discrimination is running rampant in this country. My employer puts up a notice for hiring students in the summer, "don't apply if your not native or a visible minority". So much for The Charter of Right and equality for all, what a sham. Gov. passes laws telling employers that they have to have a percentage of so called minorities because thats what the percent is vs the rest of society. Then they pass laws saying if we bitch and complain we must be racists. No wonder were going backwards. If the owners of the property don't want to rent to gays then under the Charter they should also have that right, or what the Charter has been interpreted as saying is that some have more rights then others. The owners of the property, who have invested thousands and are taking the risks, then under the Charter, have no rights. Let the gay couple save and sweat to build a place to live.
Werner, Penticton BC
08/01/12 3:07 PM EST
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jfc Werner
"No wonder were going backwards" (sic). No Werner, it just feels like we're going backwards to you, because everyone else is moving forward and you're standing still. It's an optical illusion. "Let the gay couple save and sweat to build a place to live" Yes, and in the meantime, one rents, doesn't one?
Benedict, Toronto ON
08/01/12 4:29 PM EST
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What?
@Werner - I'm unclear as to what 'risks' the landlord is taking when renting to a homosexual couple...so much so that they have to protect themselves from renting to gay people at all. And if you bitch and complain about people simply because they are a different race then no one is insinuating you are a racist, you just actually are one. No need to have anyone verify that for you. Ditto on the bigotry, as displayed by the landlords. Everyone has the right to just keep their poison to themselves and possibly help make any future generations proud of being a human instead of disgusted by the past.
Blake, Thunder Bay Ontario
08/01/12 5:39 PM EST
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reverse Discrimination
Thats really good, everyone avoided my main points about Reverse Discrimination, Charter of Rights and Equality for all. Employment standards for minorities instead of who best qualifies, that's what I meant about going backwards.
Werner, Okanagan Falls BC
08/01/12 6:22 PM EST
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Sue them hard.
Sue them off of the face of the Earth. Sue them for every penny they have. Sue their Church into bankruptcy. They are members of a CULT that predicates itself on exclusion and discrimination. They deserve to have their bank accounts emptied and their assets seized pending trial and conviction. This kind of think makes me turn red in the face.
LeetroyJnkns, VIctoria BC
08/01/12 7:50 PM EST
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But I BELIEVE I can discriminate
Nobody should be let off the hook for discrimination just because they have a "belief". That just gives everyone a shortcut around the law we are all supposed to follow. There should be one law, for everyone, no exceptions. Having said that, a rental unit isn't exempt in any case. It's a public accommodation, not a religious service, and must be made available without discrimination, to otherwise qualified applicants. I hope they (agent and landlord both) lose a lot of money in court, and a lot of business besides, for brazenly flouting the law.
Randy, Windsor ON
08/01/12 8:48 PM EST
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Hahaha! Good luck!
I can't believe that the landlord and rental agent are doing this in 2012. Seriously? Good luck with trying to discriminate like that! Thank God we have laws in this country to protect GLBT people from tools like this landlord and rental agent! And another note? This is just further proof that religion really DOES ruin EVERYTHING in this world. Ugh, absolutely disgusted. I'm glad my boyfriend and I live in an area of Toronto where GLBT people are welcomed and made to feel like a real part of the community.
Ruban, Toronto Ontario
08/01/12 11:07 PM EST
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Wow!
I can't believe that the landlord and rental agent are doing this in 2012. Seriously? Good luck with trying to discriminate like that! Thank God we have laws in this country to protect GLBT people from tools like this landlord and rental agent! And another note? This is just further proof that religion really DOES ruin EVERYTHING in this world. Ugh, absolutely disgusted. I'm glad my boyfriend and I live in an area of Toronto where GLBT people are welcomed and made to feel like a real part of the community.
Ruban, Toronto Ontario
08/01/12 11:08 PM EST
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BELIEVE ME
Believe me when I say this that I WILL NOT let this pass me by..I wanted to take the time to thank Andrea at XTRA, Barbara Hall, and everyone at XTRA for their support and all of you who have commented. What happened is disgusting and no one should ever feel what I felt that day that it happened. NO ONE should ever be discriminated against because of their sexual orientation or any other kind of discrimination. We are in 2012 and I still can't believe that it is around us. I am going to pursue this with the OHRC not only for my self and my partner but for every gay person out there. I hope that this NEVER happens to anyone again..and I am going to make a POINT of it that it does not!
Thiago Derucio, Mississauga Ontario
08/01/12 11:51 PM EST
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You're playing with me, right?
@ Werner They put up an ad saying "don't apply if your not native or a visible minority," do they? I'd like to see a copy of that ad. Links or JPGs or I call bullshit. Also, I'd like you to find me the legislation where governments tell employers what the racial breakdown of their staff should be. Finally, it's not that some folks have more rights than others, it's that there's no right to walk around with your head up your ass.
Christopher Paul, Toronto ON
08/02/12 1:51 AM EST
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Hate is Hate
I would like to note that while what the landlord/agency is doing may be wrong and outrage many, we need to really take a look at how we respond to them. Discrimination is ignorance and some of the comments made here would make one believe that there is a lot of ignorance and discrimination toward the Adventist Church and religious people in general. If the landlord in question were from a main stream church would you assume the negative comments towards that church. You need to be aware that just because one says I am a (whatever religion) does not mean the church as a whole takes the same stand. Again, please get your facts straight or you may be in the same catagory as the discrimating landlord/agency. The one fact that I can varify is that while Seventh-day Adventist are a lot of things, Cult is not one of them.
Marie, Toronto ON
08/02/12 8:42 AM EST
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bad landlords have to go
yes, people should be able to live anywhere they want. this landlord should have to pay. this just has to end: I made a video about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVu1sFLoLtE
hate is hate, Brampton ON
08/02/12 9:33 AM EST
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More detail
The article doesn't say what kind of accommodation it was. Ontario's Human Rights Code doesn't apply to renting accommodations in someone's home if there is a shared bathroom or kitchen. Was it that kind of set up?
Kevin Kindred, Halifax Nova Scotia
08/02/12 9:57 AM EST
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Support
To Thiago Derucio and Chris Prentice: I feel horrible that this happened to you. They have no right to say no to you, simply for being who you are. It disgusts me, and I hope you take them for everything they have. Word of caution: focus on the REASON they denied you, not the denial itself. Your right to not to be discriminated against does not trump the churches right to not have gays forced on them by some tribunal. The HRC can't force Israeli landlords to accept Palestinian tenants, simply because Palestinian tenants apply. The landlord simply needs to show a more qualified applicant applied (more income, more stable, no pets, bigger deposit paid etc), therefore dismissing the possibility of discimination. Focus on the church and the specific comments regarding the church and their views. If you make your arguement about the HRC and what they do and do not have to do, you've already lost the battle. I wish you the very best luck possible, and just know people support you and your fight, gay or not.
Adrian, Etobicoke Ontario
08/02/12 10:32 AM EST
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Diva? Right.
I say she has to nix the word "Diva" from her company name. It is not for her.
Kris, Calgary Alberta
08/02/12 12:30 PM EST
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What's right > what's convenient
Notice how Juliet Stewart passes the buck and says that it's her client's call, not hers. Quite a cowardly stance here, not to mention the rudeness she displayed. Choosing to ignore the law and on top of that make an immoral choice in order to keep a client does not speak well to her character at all. I hope she thinks about this and decides to do the right thing. As for the landlord, hiding behind religion as a way to receive special treatment is another morally bankrupt position and it happens all too often, most notably with tax exemption. What is right and what is the law trumps conflicting personal preference. Period.
Ferd, Ottawa Ontario
08/02/12 4:44 PM EST
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Contact Information
Does anyone know the name, address, and phone number of these bigots?
Rob, Toronto ON
08/02/12 6:46 PM EST
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Muslim Only apts.
Would a homo couple please try to rent an apartment from a muslim soon? I'd like to see what kind of response you get from the Human Hate Commission when you complain about a muslim denying you a rental unit because you are a homo couple. Keep up the hate homos. The Pink Swastika looks good on you
vangrungy, toronto ontario
08/03/12 2:48 PM EST
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Her Ad
Here is her Kijji ad. ontario.kijiji.ca/c-real-estate-real-estate-services-Do-you-have-bad-tenants-W0QQAdIdZ391182946 btw in several of her other ads she writes 'Note: No EI or Ontario Works need apply'
Anonymous, Toronto Onatrio
08/03/12 5:44 PM EST
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This is from her Kijiji ad.......
Do you have bad tenants? Rental Diva – Getting it right! Rental Diva is experienced in making renting your income unit effortless. · Get quality tenants the first time · Get accurate/physical employment verification · Get a simplified lease that works for both parties affiliated · Get bank credit reports that shows reporting that the tenant doesn’t know · Get ongoing support with tenant issues during the rental life cycle · Get free consultation to attract the best applicants · Get insight on how to keep great tenants long term · Get a rental expert in your area who knows what works and what doesn’t · Get educated to avoid ever going to court · Get a 3rd party involved which makes your life stress free Call me and get that dream tenant that you’ve always desired and end the rental madness. Call Juliet, Property Rental Specialist (647) 261- 7104
Kevin Brown, Toronto Ontario
08/03/12 11:35 PM EST
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They should have...
...claimed they were Muslim.
Jim, Toronto Ontario
08/04/12 3:53 AM EST
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Knowledge is power
Thiago so happy you followed through with what we discussed. All the hate and politics aside, rights are rights and they are there so people like you and Chris can expect to be treated fairly and justly before the law. And if you find you are not treated justly the rights are there to assist you if you decide to do something about it legally. If you decide not to do anything and carry on and find another place that too is your choice. It's the people that do act and get positive results that all of us owe our gratitude to because what good does a theoretical right do for us if we don't put it to good use once and a while. I guarantee you that those Seventh Day Adventists will be demanding their religious right as their defence to discriminate so what better place to battle out the clash of right then before the OHRC? Better there than say in the streets. It's a no brainer.
chrystal, Brant ON
08/04/12 9:16 AM EST
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re: reverse Discrimination
Werner there are no laws that require any employer to have certain numbers of various minorities on staff. When the NDP were in gov't in Ontario they did pass a law requiring large companies to examine their hiring practices to check for discriminatory hiring practices but they did not require any sort of quotas. That legislation was tossed when the Harrisites gained office but out of that NDP law many large corporations have changed their hiring practices to ensure that people were hired solely on merit and not discriminated against for whatever reason. The most common change is for human resource depts to remove personal and/or ethnic identifying features from resumes which are then passed on to those who do the hiring to ensure that the best person for the job gets hired and that applicants aren't rejected for having a non-Euro sounding name or other such thing. However as recent studies have found that sort of policy is still too rare as they gave various companies identical resumes, the only difference between them was that some had Euro sounding names and other had non-Euro sounding names, the results found that those identical resumes with Euro sounding names got calls for interviews far more often than those with non-Euro sounding names. Discrimination in hiring against people with non-European ancestry is still alive and well in Canada today. I'm sure there is some anti-Euro ancestry discrimination in hiring going on but it'd be miniscule amount compared to the usual sort.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
08/04/12 10:32 PM EST
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re: More detail
Kevin you're right about discrimination on any basis being allowed if its shared housing, such as renting a room or where facilities are shared like you mentioned. However in this case its a self contained apt in question and there are no shared amenities or living space at all. There's more info on it here http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1236907--couple-seeking-a-basement-apartment-refused-for-being-gay But as usual on any story dealing with LGBT people in mainstream news media read the comments with caution, the anti-LGBT bigots are always out in full force whenever such a story is in the news. Though the Star, unlike Xtra, does sanitize some comments to make it seem that anti-LGBT bigotry isn't so bad there's still plenty of bigotry on display there. Personally I wish they wouldn't do so, I think it's a good thing that such vile beliefs see the light of day. As LGBT people we're all familiar with them I'm sure but its easy for cis-hetero people to pretend that such things aren't a problem, allowing all comments would be an eye opener for many.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
08/04/12 10:52 PM EST
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re: More Detail
I did some digging as to what the RTA and OHRC actually say and posted it here: http://www.veganswithtypewriters.com/blog/2012/8/5/gay-couple-denied-apartment-in-brampton-because-theyre-well.html I'm completely blown away by the overtness of the discrimination and the seeming incompetence of the rental agent. This is 2012, right? Best of luck to Chris and Thiago.
Phae, Ottawa Ontario
08/05/12 2:39 AM EST
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Not Surprize
I know them personally, and have a reputation of seeking attention. This is a different agenda than what is actually happening. Besides, why beat a dead horse. I have been denied apartments for different reasons. I dont make a big stink about it, cause it was just not meant to be. Why care about people that dont want you.
John, Toronto Ontario
08/05/12 2:46 AM EST
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Juliet Stewart is not licensed.
She admitted that to The Toronto Star. If she's operating without a license then she's got even bigger problems. She needs to be reported to the proper people.
Anonymous, Toronto Ontario
08/05/12 10:55 AM EST
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Agent blew it
I think the agent blew it. She could have avoided all the fuss by letting the couple see the apartment. Then any number of reasons could have been given, chiefly credit, job, money in the bank, etc. To be so dense as to state the anti-gay reason was pretty stupid. Although the description of the agent doesn't surprise me that she was not too bright. None of which means discrimination is right; it isn't.
Pat Graney, Kingston Ontario
08/05/12 11:02 AM EST
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To Thiago & Christ from SDA Member
Dearest Thiago and Chris I'm a Seventh-day Adventist myself and mostly Christian. I want to let you know that I AM ashamed from these people who claim to be Christians. As you know Jesus LOVES US ALL equally... one of my close friends is gay. I love & respect him and WILL fight for his rights whenever he needs it. Now, if you wish to take them to court etc. it's up to you. However, I'd like to share with you that the SDA church's belief does NOT in anyway support or require that couple's to do whatever they did! it is totally their own. As you might know that UNFORTUNATELY, in every religion, there are the good & the bad. I kindly ask you NOT to judge our church by that couple or the agent. Trust me, MANY of us ARE already VERY upset & ASHAMED... and that's purely because it's NOT right or even Christian. I know that MANY Christian or religious people behave same way, BUT TRUST ME it does NOT AT ALL or IN ANYWAY, reflect the character of Jesus. I think He's probably shaking His head now in disbelief & shame. A person who's FILLED with God's character, Jesus' love WOULD NEVER EVER EVERY think or behave as if he or she is better than the other because of this or that & will treat everyone with FULL Love & respect. If I were you Thiago & Christ, I wouldn't even feel bad because you have all our support, respect & love and moreover, you have the FULLLLLL love of Jesus Himself. All the best with All my/our love S.P.
S.P., Oshawa Ontario
08/06/12 7:06 PM EST
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Men in General and not Religion
Come on you guys, it has nothing to do with religion. my husband is atheist and has been all his life and does NOT accept or tolerate homosexuality at all. I also discovered that my best friend's husband is the same way & he also is not religious at all. The irony of it is that both my friend and I are the "religious" people and we both are VERY tolerant & would FIGHT for their rights. I lived in Europe, Middle East & North America and I see always that MOST heterosexual men are very intolerant when it comes to gay men. I have a feeling it has something to do with their own sexuality lol
Sarah, London ontario
08/06/12 10:55 PM EST
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Good Luck
The Ontario Human Rights Code is so weak that I wish you good luck. Listen, in Canada, we have law without teeth. There is no way for the average person to sue for discrimination, liable, malpractice, or other professional misconduct because the legal system is beyond our economic reach, or at least most of us. In many ways, Canada is a country with law, but still lawless for most.
Good Luck, Toronto Ontario
08/14/12 9:28 PM EST
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Wow, amazingly stupid and ignorant
Religion is not the reason for discrimination and hate crimes, ignorance and stupidity are. Looking at history and even to this day and age some religious leaders and some religions are still keeping their worshipers in the dark/ignorant. That’s the easiest way to control a community/group of people. Look around, it is happening every day. No wonder discrimination is still around us. We live in a progressive and developed country, however that does not mean everyone is progressive and intelligent. Good luck to these two guys, Thiago and Chris, justice most prevail
Mike, Toronto ON
08/15/12 7:51 PM EST
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And it's a beautiful day . . .
This happened to me once in Vancouver. I went to rent an apartment, and the manager, a middle-aged lady, asked me, "Who will be living in it?" "Just me," I said. "Oh no," she said with finality. "Guys with guys...not in this building." I left feeling spat upon, and returned to my old digs. I hadn't been unhappy there: it was a charming old rooming house with a cool young lady manager; and a gay poet had the room under mine (we'd got it on once), but I had to share the bathroom and was just seeking a bit more privacy. After the encounter with the homo-hating manager, though, I remember walking home and feeling so helpless. There were no protections in law then and thus no one to complain to. I was 18 and the year was 1972.
Ron, Montreal Quebec
08/16/12 6:02 PM EST
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