GSA activists turn attention to defunding Catholic school system
NEWS / Voices of students are hard to ignore: Trottier
Scott Dagostino / Toronto / Wednesday, May 11, 2011
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UPDATE: May 12 - St. Joseph Catholic Secondary School principal Frances Jacques pulled student Leanne Iskander aside May 12 to demand she contact Xtra so the story be corrected to state there is no gay-straight alliance (GSA) at the school. Iskander is the founder of the "unofficial" GSA. "[The principal] said that we don't have a GSA at our school and therefore that is inaccurate," Iskander says.

May 11 - The debate around Ontario Catholic separate school boards' refusal to allow their students to form gay-straight alliance discussion groups has been raging for months. But Justin Trottier, executive director of the Centre for Inquiry (CFI), says his panel discussion this Friday night won't be adding to it.
 
"We've invited school board members to come and debate in the past," he says. "We've tried to be friendly."

But the invitations have never been accepted. So, for Friday's discussion and Q & A (part of CFI's ongoing Voices of Reason series), Trottier says, "We've decided we're not going to waste our time."
 
The Centre for Inquiry will take the discussion in a different direction — away from pressuring Catholic school administrators to allow GSAs.
 
Queer Ontario's Casey Oraa, shown here in a 2010 file photo.
(Marcus McCann)
Instead, the panel will discuss "the appropriate moves going forward" to dissolving Ontario's separate school system, in place since the 1867 Constitution Act and later guaranteed in the 1982 Constitution Act to Roman Catholics in Ontario.
 
Obviously, it's an uphill battle. CFI was first established in January 2007 as a meeting place for Ontario's non-religious, humanist and free-thought communities and has, Trottier says, "long held the position that government has no business funding separate religious schools...They create financial waste, they're unfair to other groups who don't get such funding, and ultimately, religious instruction is the responsibility of parents and churches."
 
Trottier's panel will include Green MP candidate Mark Daye, Queer Ontario member Casey Oraa, St Joseph Catholic Secondary School student (and lone founder of a GSA) Leanne Iskander, Xtra news reporter Andrea Houston and activist Justin Stayshyn. Houston and Stayshyn began investigating claims by Halton board officials that some Ontario Catholic schools already had GSAs by calling every single Catholic school board in Ontario. Stayshyn got a brief, telling and, so far, only comment from Assembly of Catholic Bishops of Ontario general secretary Lou Piovesan, who said, "I'm not going to argue with you."
 
"There is no other side to this story," says Houston, who has been working on the GSA issue since January. "Queer youth in publicly funded schools are being bullied and they are asking for help, but their educators are turning their backs... Gay students are singled out and called 'sinful and immoral,' and Catholic educators see nothing wrong with this."
 
Queer Ontario representative Casey Oraa says the biggest shock in this conflict between discussion and dogma is "the willful inaction by Dalton McGuinty and the Ministry of Education. They’ve got a policy (PPM 145) that explicitly supports GSAs for students in all public schools, yet they refuse to support it."
 
For Houston, "it's the unapologetic homophobia from Catholic parents, trustees and Catholic educators. They don't seem to understand how offensive what they say actually is."
 
Houston says it's the presence of Iskander on Friday's panel that will inspire most: "I'm not sure I would have had the courage at 16 years old to take on the school board, the Catholic Church and the province," she says, while Oraa praises Iskander for achieving the "small victory" of an upcoming anti-homophobia event at St Joseph's in early June. 
 
"How would that work?" he asks. "A student can say they are being bullied for being gay but not talk about being gay? Explain that one to me."
 
The Catholic bishops, Houston says, "want to avoid anything too 'gay' sounding or that signifies an activist group. Even Rainbow Alliance, the name the St Joe's students chose, was refused. So while there have been glimmers of progress, it mostly feels we go in circles."
 
Which is why, Trottier insists, a single school system in Ontario is an idea whose time has come. While the CFI has long been documenting abuses — bullying of students, refusals to allow same-sex dates at proms, banning of books like The Golden Compass — these have been largely, Trottier says, "abstract issues to the public, but now the faces and voices of these youngsters are harder to ignore."
 
Catholic school boards vs gay-straight alliances
Panel and audience Q & A
Centre for Inquiry, 216 Beverley St (just south of College and St George)
Friday, May 13 at 7pm


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"Amazing Love
how can it be, that you my King should die for me? Amazing Love, I know it's true, and it's my joy to honour you, in all I do, to honour you. I am forgiven, because you are forsaken, I am accepted, you were condemned, I am alive and well, because your spirit is within me, because you died and rose again. Amazing Love, how can it be, that you my King should die for me..." From the Christian rock group "Newsboys". http://newsboys.com/v09/ (Check out their new album "Born Again") Hey you all, I have a better idea, how about the Catholis Students involved in this, form a committee on bringing an awesome Catholic-Christian rock concert for Catholic Schools (and all schools) in Toronto? How awesome would that be, bring love and fun to your city! Jesus loves you and died for all of you! Hey! Hey! Cheer! Cheer! how much Our God loves us, as we are and calls us to Himself.
Sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/11/11 4:27 PM EST
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www.onerock.ca
I can't believe how blessed we are in Alberta to have "OneRock" (a Christian Music Festival for all Christian come here!!! And it is approved by the Bishops (http://www.calgarydiocese.ca/) How about it Toronto (how about it Catholic LGBT students), bring real love to your City! Bring Jesus to your City! Bring Jesus to this country!!!
sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/11/11 5:40 PM EST
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It's time.
The government shouldn't be in the business of funding institutions that marginalize a particular minority because a belief system dating from the iron age tells them to. Leave the Neanderthals be, just don't use public funds to promote their hurtful acts against children.
Julien, Ottawa Ontario
05/11/11 10:13 PM EST
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Do you remember Mario Toronto?
http://www.zacchaeus.ca/mario.html
sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/12/11 12:32 AM EST
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truth about the catholic church
Good riddance to the church best known as the godfather of pedophilia. Which hid vile crimes for centuries, even moving known vile priests to new locations where they continued their crimes while bringing in the money the same church"of life" which has yet to EXcommunicate Hitler, born and baptised catholic in very catholic Austria in 1888 the same church whom the german pope in 2009 UNexcommunicated a bishop williamson. He had been kicked out of the church of england for denying the holocaust. The catholic church has been the curse of the western world for 1500 years. Go to www.catholicarrogance.org and www.nobeleifs.com/nazis.htm for the truth about it
Katie Murphy, Chicago USA
05/12/11 1:49 AM EST
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Time to amend this archaic loophole
Andrea Houston's words are powerful and accurate: ''Gay students are singled out and called 'sinful and immoral,' and Catholic educators see nothing wrong with this.'' Making matters far worse is that not a single politician in our province has the courage to say that this is wrong. As of 2011, the Ontario public is forced to provide full funding to a school system which has sexual and religious discrimination built into its very fabric. This must stop. If a Catholic parent wants to send their child to a Catholic school, that's their business--but they have no right to force the public to pick up the tab. As with members of every other religion today, if you want a religious private school, then you have no right asking your neighbor to pay the tuition. I'm told it's built into the Constitution. If it is, then CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION. Once upon a time racial apartheid was built into the South African constitution. That didn't make it right.
Rick, Ottawa ON
05/12/11 10:37 AM EST
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It's time
It's time to end the unfair public funding of a special religious school system, at the expense of every other religion (and non-religion). This is only made more clear when that religious school system refuses to obey the rules, and violates not just the rights of religious (and non-religious) minorities, but also sexual minorities. When it is defunded, Ontario needs to be sure that those buildings that were paid for with public funds are folded into the public system.
Randy, Windsor ON
05/12/11 2:44 PM EST
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it is a GSA, even if not official
St. Joseph Catholic Secondary School principal Frances Jacques sure sounds like some piece of work pulling aside Leanne Iskander demanding she contact Xtra to deny that they have a GSA at their school. They most definitely do have a GSA at their school, its just that it isn't recognized by the school administration, but that hardly makes it any less real. Just like real same sex marriages were happening long before our government recognized them as legal so to with this GSA, it's a group of LGBT students and hetero students working together to reduce homophobia/heterosexism in their school. If that isn't a GSA I don;t know what is. It would be good if they were recognized by their school since they'd then have more resources available to them but just because their school doesn't recognize their GSA it doesn't make their GSA any less real. Besides which if the principal has an issue with something Xtra printed why isn't she taking it up with Xtra herself? Why is she insisting a student do her work for her? Its said that those who can't do teach, I guess those who can't teach become principals. Considering Jacques handling of this situation I'll be surprised if she's a principal for much longer, especially when she starts demanding students at her school do her work for her. Then again maybe Jacques is afraid of Xtra, after all they're adults whom she can't intimidate in any way like she can students at her school like when she took over the GSA's meeting.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
05/14/11 12:15 AM EST
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No, Rich, it's not a GSA at St. Jo's
Nothing has changed. Nothing will change. There never has been a single GSA anywhere in Ontario's Catholic schools and there never will be. This isn't rocket science: Church dogma virulently opposes homosexuality. Catholic schools must adhere to this dogma. Period. So, no GSAs. Ever. Get that through your head. Don't let the ever-changing rhetoric swirling around this One Big Point fool you. Having said that, I'm not suggesting that we need to have a chat with the Pope and try to convince him that this policy is bad. He can believe whatever he wants. The problem, though, is that these schools are 100% publicly funded. They therefore ought to serve the PUBLIC, not the Vatican. If the Vatican picked up the tab, that would be different.
Susan, Toronto Ontario
05/14/11 8:53 AM EST
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Documentary against religious schools
Here's a great documentary against publicly-funded religious schools. Although it's based on the situation in the United Kingdom, the same concerns apply to Canada. http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/richard-dawkins-faith-school-menace/
Rob, Toronto Ontario
05/15/11 7:28 AM EST
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Gay priests
Maybe someone can explain to me why the gay community is always pushing to be in places where they have no business being (or that do not bring good results). The LGBT has pushed to have it's members become "priests" (and not only in the Catholic Church), and "unfortunately" as we all know the Church made the big mistake of allowing them to become priests (maybe they were thinking they would be faithful and "chaste") but "their addiction" came out"; (all over the place and the result has been the abuse of children (with accompanying pornographic documentation) and by the way, in the majority of cases, the boys abused where teens, not small children in Church. And what was the "beautiful result" (that the gay community achieved to enrich all our lives?) a "world wide scandal with the Catholic Church being left to hold the "bag and "not" the LGBT community (since these men are homosexual sex addicts). I want to add here that I do have compassion for them, and do hope they will seek and get help. Nonetheless, I am glad the Church has learned from this and no longer accepts "stubbornly" unrepentant homosexual men to the priesthood. But ofcourse, that's not enough for the LGBT is it? (And this is all because you have never been convicted of your responsibility in this regard, by the way). So now you want access to children in schools, and Catholis Schools at that? You know what, if this goes through, and there is abuse of any kind, the Church should place that "Cross" firmly and strictly on a perverted (Liberal) government and the LGBT community. You people were never held accountable as a gay community supporting gay priests, instead the Catholic Church was and this is unjust. Leave children and the school system alone LGBT!!! LGBT students do not understand what they do inside this "spiritual ecosystem".
sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/15/11 2:36 PM EST
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sylvia you're delusional
sylvia you are absolutely delusional if you honestly believe that the LGBT communities have pushed gay men to become priests in the Catholic or any other church and that's why there have been so many Catholic priests sexually abusing boys. Think about it for a second, when was most of this going on? in the 60's and 70's, some in the 80's too before it cam to public attention, most of the priests involved became priests in the 50's, 60's and early 70s, in other words long before there was much an a LGBT establishment at all, only small isolated groups fighting for equality but nothing like today. They certainly were not encouraging gay men to go into the closet and become priests, they were encouraging gays and lesbians to come out of the closet and into the streets. If there was an influx of gay men into the priesthood that came long before there was the LGBT equality movement that we see today. Most likely they joined the priesthood because they knew they couldn't marry a woman in good faith and probably figured becoming a priest would be a way to atone for their "sin" of being gay. But really I have no idea why any gay man would become a priest, besides which most men who sexually abuse pre-pubescent boys identify as hetero not gay and most alter boys who were abused were pre-pubescent. Before puberty there's little difference between boys and girls bodies so often they chose the child to sexually abuse more by their availability than by their sex when they're that young and in the Catholic church it was young boys who were available to the priests. If anything its the Catholic churches refusal to allow their priests a normal married sex life that led to the abuse, and the ban on priest marriage was created solely to ensure their children couldn't inherit church property, I know they justify it differently today but that was the reason given when they banned priests from marrying way back when, look it up for yourself.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
05/15/11 5:37 PM EST
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syvia you're delusional part 2
As well there are already many LGBT students in all our school systems including the Catholic public school system. There always will be LGBT students as well since we come from hetero families, there is nothing you or your church can do about that. Face it sylvia we are every where and always have been and always will be. Supporting our LGBT students through GSAs is the least we can do, at least until homophobia/heterosexism is stamped out for good. But considering that black and Jewish people still face bigotry long after they achieved full legal equality I suspect GSAs will be needed for a very long time to come. I have no doubt that your Catholic church will one day look back in shame at the way they treated LGBT people, it may take a very long time considering they just apologized recently for their shameful treatment of Galileo for insisting the earth revolved around the sun and that was several hundred years ago, until then we will fight to protect our LGBT students from the bigotry promoted by your church and others. If the Ontario Catholic public school system isn't willing to abide by the Charter of Rights as they must as agents of the state, then we will keep on fighting until they are no longer agents of the state, meaning the end of public funding of Catholic schools in Ontario, other provinces have done it, Ontario will some day end this waste of our tax dollars on a bigoted school system that refuses to stop discriminating against LGBT students by denying them their Charter rights. Its just a matter of time. Do you really think your god will reward you and others like you for tormenting LGBT children?
Rich, Toronto Ontario
05/15/11 5:59 PM EST
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Priests
A call to the priesthood is a call to holiness above anything else. Men who are not same sex attracted have to also deal with the question, as part of their discernment process, can I remain "chaste" for my whole life (without marrying), and if is so, they can thus embrace the call to be a Catholic Priest. This also goes for nuns, women too are called to honestly choose the Sisterhood making a commitment to chastity for life. This said, as I recall, a Bishop and reformer of the Church, implemented "chastity" for priests without marriage, as a "discipline". If you would look into Catholic beliefs you would realize that a priest is an "intercessor". His life is dedicated to atoning for our sins. One does not do this, by smoking "weed", having all the sex one can possibly have, drinking (alcohol), or indulging in all kinds of other vices and debauchery, which the gay community is so well known for. This said, "when I was gay", I remember two Catholic priests who were not living according to their "vows" OF CHASTITY. One was very out, and as far as I am concerned, he was more involved in the gay community than he was in his spiritual ministries. It's a choice, one either lives for God, and is chaste, or one is a "slut". Now, though you are absolutely right that there are some same sex attracted people, possibly, in every circle, this does not give them the liberty to be "prostitutes" in these places. If a same sex attracted person goes to a daycare, filled with small children, he is to behave like everyone else, and not ask for special rights to disrobe or to be a "slut" infront of small children. What happened to simple common sense? If I as a Catholic go to a Jewish Synagogue, I am not going to ask them to "inclusive rights" as a Christian. It's their space!
Sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/15/11 11:38 PM EST
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church must take responsibility for its own sins
Sylvia you are an ignorant fool. The men who committed those acts of pedophilia were each and every one HETEROSEXUAL i.e. they were not LGBT in any way! You talk about "atonement for sins" but then you try to blame your HETEROSEXUAL immoralities on us!! You want to atone for sins? Then stop trying to blame the sins of your church and your community on us.
Sav., Toronto ON
05/15/11 11:49 PM EST
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Priests
Rich, let's say that you are right, and way back when someone "crazy", (said that all Catholic priests had to be chaste and could not marry), why would Saints (very holy people) in later times confirm this? John Paul II, who was a Saint, (and will no doubt be recognized as such one day, as we have already witnessed his beatification), confirmed that priests are to be chaste, as well as Catholics: "Love and Responsibility" (book by John Paul II) "Drawing from his own pastoral experience as a priest and bishop before he became Pope John Paul II, Karol Wojtyla has produced a remarkably eloquent and resourceful defense of Catholic tradition in the sphere of family life and sexual morality. He writes in the conviction that science --biology, psychology… Author: Pope John Paul II http://www.catholiccompany.com/love-responsibility-p1004019/
Sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/15/11 11:54 PM EST
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Church "has" taken responsibility...
for it's own sins Sav, but the LGBT community has failed to do so. I have read about gay priests, and to this day (there are articles about their infidelity), they cause trouble for the Vatican (all the Catholic Church), who is trying to bring them to reconciliation with God, who loves them and calls them to Himself, but for this to happen, they need to repent of sexual immorality, and if they refuse, and teach what is false, or act, in positions of trust, as "sluts", they are being defrocked. As I was saying, I have witnessed a gay priest at a gay theatre play, (he had grey hair) and yet, he was sorrounded by youths, some of questionable teenage ages. I think when you speak, you are not aware of the "breath" of this problem and the involvement of those who are sexaholics and same sex attracted.
Sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/16/11 12:03 AM EST
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trust me
Trust me Sylvia, I'm surrounded by gay dudes constantly. They're actually pretty boring.
Sav., Toronto ON
05/16/11 12:08 AM EST
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Baruch 2:18
"But the soul that is sorrowful for the greatness of evil she (souls are feminine in relation to God by the way) hath done, and goeth bowed down, and feeble, and the eyes that fail, and the hungry soul giveth glory and justice to thee the Lord." (Douay-Rheims Version of the Bible) God is merciful, and if we repent, He will take us back and forgive us. But we need to admit, that sexual debauchery, is a sin. That any sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman for life is sinful. God calls us to holiness. He loves us, and forgives us our sins when we repent and return to Him. There are many groups that can help people with same sex attraction and other sexaholics return to God and live holy lives. May He have mercy on us and show us the way back, as we can handle it.
Sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/16/11 12:13 AM EST
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Boredom...
I felt just like you, and actually, though I had a lover, and everything else a lesbian could want (at the time), I was bored, and one day I even asked myself "there has to be more to life than this!" I found that "more", that hunger I did not realize was for God. Because, like St. Augustine said, "are souls are restless untill they rest in You O God". This said, God promised me something, which I think applies to everyone, just people do not know it. He promised me I would never be bored as long as I followed Him. God can make your life exciting. There is always change with God, personal and otherwise (and to be honest, it's not always exciting, sometimes it's very painful, as one needs to acknowledge sinful behaviour or sinful things one has done. But this is true freedom. Are you a baptized Catholic? Have you heard of Alan (in the Toronto area): http://thesheepfold.typepad.com/ He was gay, and has recently got married to a woman. He is not bored!
Sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/16/11 12:24 AM EST
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"Crossing the Threshold of hope"...
"Those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength, they will soar on wings like Eagles" Isaiah 40:31 AND "Hope everything from the Mercy of God, it is boundless, as His Power" St. Frances of Rome. Speaking of "big conversions" and "big life" changes, has anyone here heard of Abby Johnson? Former Director of Planned Parenthood, who resigned her post and is now involved in the Pro-Life Movement...God is definetly "not" boring: http://uniteforlifewebcast.org/ think of her "Crossing that Threshold".
Sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/16/11 12:34 AM EST
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Go back to Hell Sylvia
Stop confusing gay men with Pedophiles. Most pedophilia first of all is opposite sex. You are so fixated by gays, because you are a bored, lonely, self-righteous beyach who has nothing better to do than pander hate behind your 'good faith' shield of religion. Why are you on our website? Are you God's chosen crusader? Shouldn't you be getting ready for the Rapture? And how will you answer to God when he asks you about the damage you've caused by your hate propaganda? You love to demonize us because it's the only way you can affirm all the energy you've invested into your fantasy of religious doctrine. If you believe in scripture you will note that the Bible endorses slavery, will not allow for a man to touch you if you are having your period, etc. Read ALL of Leviticus. You are insane like the rest of your crazy flock. Leave us be you hateful agent of Satan. We want to be able to love as God intended us to. You think love is sex and that is so unGodly. I suggest you get gay sex off your brain because you probably think about it more than we do. Then study Freud's reaction formation theory. Then look in the mirror. You are a dangerous, unconscious human, who knows not what she does. Forgive her God. Please get some psychotherapy Sylvia.
Fed up, Canada On
05/16/11 11:34 AM EST
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For those who are bored...
"Free" online Catholic Catechism and Formation Courses by the Nights of Columbus: Catechism and Faith Formation Courses
Sylvia, Calgary Alberta
05/16/11 6:25 PM EST
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Link..
http://www.kofc.org/un/en/cis/courses/index.html
Sylvia, Calgary AB
05/16/11 6:28 PM EST
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catholic church is THE monster
rthe catholic church of the godfather of pedophilia. It was not gay priests but str8 priests who attacked boys and yes girls. the real crime is how the church hid these vile crimes for decades if not centuries, moving known offenders to new locations where they could continue their vile crimes until caught again. Why do you think the church is fortunately all but dead in Europe and dying in latin america and parts of the USA, and of course canada has gay marriage nationwide. The catholic church has murdered and raped througout its history. the inquisition, the christian crusades that killed 40 million muslims (no wonder some of htem hate us) WWII by a still unexcommunciated catholic hitler, 55 million died and the church hasn't yet kicked him out dead or alive, while it prattles about protecting life. And hitler rode to power on the backs of hte hatred of Jews, given to the world by the catholic church because the Jews wouldn't convert. Over a thousand year smillion of Jesus own people were murdered adn displacedd. WWII was simply the "final solution" May God open up Vesuvius II under the vatican, and swallow this filth into the fires of the earth. www.nobeliefs.com/nazis/htm
stevemd2, Baltimore USA
05/18/11 7:49 PM EST
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Catholic 'Faith'
The BNA Act guaranteed the funding of the Catholic school system in 1867. This Act is repeatedly cited in defense of continued funding of the separate school system. As others have pointed out, amendments are made to our archaic laws regularly in order to reflect the changing needs of today’s society. Rectification has already been carried out in other provinces with regards to the public funding of the separate school system to the exclusion of others as these provinces recognized the inequity which this situation represented. Catholics cite this right which was passed down as a direct result of ‘injustices inherent in being a member of a distinct minority’. I find this laughable. It is difficult to envision the Catholic Church or its adherents as being a downtrodden minority… even back then… and I was raised in the Catholic faith! For those who share this religious opinion - I guess this means that you support the public funding of other faith-based schools in Ontario then since - according to your criteria - they face the same threats as ancestral Catholics did during the founding of our nation. Or would you have us deny other religious groups these same inexorable rights? The folly of carrying through on this statement is self-evident. At a time when the Catholic Church is closing many of its churches, you would have us believe that there is a need to continue funding these separate schools! You must ask yourself - where are your faithful and why have they deserted you? Some Catholics have stated that the ‘rights of Catholics have been menaced’ – I find it insulting to MY intelligence and dangerous that some people can exhibit such a serious case of amnesia. One need only delve into the history books to see the kind of menace your religion has represented in the world. Roman Catholic Church ‘storm troopers’ exercised an extermination agenda in many parts of the world, as during the Crusades and the Inquisition. Residential schools were yet another form o
Rosa, North Bay Ontario
05/19/11 10:01 AM EST
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Catholic 'Faith' continued
Residential schools were yet another form of extermination as they robbed the native population of their youth while indoctrinating them into the Catholic religious culture, culminating in rampant sexual abuse scandals perpetrated by its ‘celibate’ priests. I am positive that this kind of pedophilic behavior has been going on since the beginning of Catholicism… The difference now is that we are finally talking about these scandals and laws have evolved to deal with these perverts so that errant priests are finally being held accountable for their atrocities. Certainly the Pope and the Vatican have not done so… which is a way of condoning this kind of behavior. To hide behind the skirts of our constitution in order to resurrect a religion which at its best feels itself to be above the law and at its worst continues to spread prejudice and ignorance I find unconscionable! The fallacy of celibacy in the priesthood and the exclusion of females in the church’s most inner sanctums has exposed the Catholic faith for what it truly represents. Catholic fanatics would have us turn back the clock to a time when the Church unleashed its mighty powers without consequence… Indeed, Catholicism has tested the mettle of even its most faithful followers! I too was indoctrinated into the Catholic faith, and am happy to say that I was able to extricate myself from the delusion which is Catholicism. I could no longer hide behind the thinly-veiled bigotry practiced by our faith, and found its inaction with regards to bringing to justice the pedophiles which hid behind the robes of priesthood too much to bear. There has been mention made of the power which lies behind the Ontario bishops - this should act as a warning to the rest of us. Although you would in one breath have us believe that you are but a meek and innocent group of people merely wishing to practice the teachings of your faith – you do not hesitate in the next breath to offer thinly-veiled threats of the might behin
Rosa, North Bay Ontario
05/19/11 10:08 AM EST
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Abuse is centuries old
The sexual abuse by Roman Catholic clergy has been going on for centuries,as any well researched history on the subject will tell you. The problem is pedophilia and is not limited to the gay population. Absent so far from this discussion is the cost of funding separate schools in Ontario. Over and above what it would cost to have everyone in one public school system which taught courses in the history of all religions , we taxpayers are bilked for a minimum of one and a half to two billion dollars annually---justr money down the drain to support a human rights abuse and to pander to gutless politicians !!
Bill, Petawawa Ontario
05/20/11 10:44 PM EST
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Stop Funding
The Gov't should stop funding Catholic Schools!
Wayne, Ottawa Ontario
05/25/11 4:14 PM EST
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