Crackdown on Village postering
TORONTO NEWS / BIA planning to install pole wraps and relegate posters to community notice boards
Andrea Houston / Toronto / Friday, September 28, 2012
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Streetlamps and other poles in the Church and Wellesley Village may soon be stripped forever of colourful posters advertising community meetings, dance parties and other local events.

Some community members have been pushing for the Church Wellesley Village Business Improvement Area (BIA) to stop all such postering and “clean up the street.”

At a meet-and-greet Sept 24 at Big Johnson’s, co-chair Avery Pitcher told representatives from local businesses that the poles may soon be covered with eight-foot-high wrapping.

“They are covered with a substance, almost like a sandpaper grid, so that posters can’t adhere to them,” she says. “They will be solid colours in the rainbow theme. That will add colour to the street and provide a cleaner environment. We are trying to clean up all of the ratty, tatty paper.”
BIA co-chair Avery Pitcher says posters make the Village look "dirty."
(Andrea Houston)


Local DJ Craig Dominic, who is also Xtra and Fab's distribution and community relations coordinator, says the move could be a problem for community activists, event organizers and DJs who depend on posters to advertise local events.

“We need to be able to get the word out in as many ways as possible,” he says. “These events bring people to the Village. They bring money to the Village and a sense of community to the Village. The BIA may be hindering that by doing this.”

Pitcher says city poles are not the place to advertise.

“We need to create more mediums to communicate our events in the city and our area,” she says. “But postering, I think, is a dying medium. It really makes an area look grungy.”

Pitcher says the BIA encourages anyone looking to promote their events to advertise on the BIA website or use the community event boards provided by the city.

There are two community event boards in the Church and Wellesley Village.

“Posters can make the area look overloaded,” she says. “When the posters are out of date, people don’t come back and take them down. They just keep postering on top of one another. It just doesn’t make the Village look as clean as we want it to look.

“The city wants to see our area vibrant, clean, clear, safe and beautiful,” she adds.

Dominic disagrees. He says there are better ways to clean up the Village, such as installing more garbage and recycling containers, increasing street cleaning and encouraging public art.
The Church and Wellesley BIA may soon cover Village poles with wraps that prevent postering.
(Andrea Houston)


“By considering community advertising ‘trash’ is in itself a problem,” he says. “What they are doing is whitewashing the street, whitewashing queer meeting places. They are taking away space we use to communicate with one another and find out what’s going on in the neighbourhood.”

The new pole wraps, expected to arrive in March, will cover 18 poles on Church Street. They will cost about $24,000. BIA manager David Wootton says the wraps are part of a cost-share program with the city, which is paying half.

Wootton says funding for the wraps has not yet been confirmed. “We won’t know for sure until our budget is approved in March. I think we have a good chance because we are trying to improve the streetscape.”

Other neighbourhoods in the city have already implemented similar initiatives to curb postering.

Ward 27 Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam says the number one complaint she hears from residents is that the posters are a nuisance and make the area look “dirty.”

Wong-Tam says the city provides designated “community boards” that allow people to post notices.

“Right now, businesses are not permitted to poster. There’s an anti-postering bylaw when it comes to commercial operation,” she says. “What stops corporations like Nike from wrapping the pole in a banner? It doesn’t matter if it’s a small business or a big business.

“What I’m hearing from residents and businesses in the area is that they don’t want the postering. It makes the street look dirty and unkept . . . The community boards are the proper place to put community notices.”

Wong-Tam says the BIA is smart to invest in beautification.

“In 2014, when the eyes of the gay world are on Church Street for WorldPride, what image will we project?” she says. “There’s no doubt we’ll host a great party. But what else will Toronto be about? This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.”

Pole wraps have already helped reduce postering in other areas of the city, she says. In Greektown, poles are wrapped in Greek flags.
 


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Reader Comments


 
Why the neighbourhood looks depressed
I find the posters on the street lamp poles and other poles on Church Street to be more vibrant, colourful and interesting than the many sad, morose faces looking out from window seats at bars and coffee shops on the street. The neigbourhood looks sad and depressed because so many of its denizens are sad and depressed.
Bill, Toronto ON
09/29/12 10:13 AM EST
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Bad Decisions
Vibrant, engaging neighbourhoods are full of posters, graffiti, guerilla gardens, any number of unregulated expressions of the people who live there. Sad neighbourhoods are ones where the only people allowed to influence the streetscape are business committees and politicians.
Andrew Woodrow-Butcher, Toronto Ontario
09/29/12 10:34 AM EST
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Poster Poles
As an outsider of Toronto, and an occassional visitor to the Church Street shopping/bar area, I don't want to say that I am sitting on the fence about this issue. I agree with both sides of this dispute and agree that the area looks untidy, unwelcome, unclean, especially when looking at the poles where the flyers are falling off, overlapping, out-of-date (how do we plan on attending something only to realize the poster is way out-of-date). Those using the poles for advertising need to put in the effort to clear the poles of their flyers when the event is over. They took the time to put them up, so take them down as well. The BIA, I believe, is going in the right direction to help improve the locale of the gay village and show those coming into the area, that there is a good reason to come, not turn them off and watch the dollars and the people leave. IF the wrapping of the poles improves the look of the gay village, then maybe everything and everyone else will change for the better, and feel proud of what their gay village signifies. Community boards are great, but only if they are in designated areas, and that therein, may be the issue. The BIA may need to look at the placement of these boards to make them more accessible, more visible, more boards available etc. IF the boards are looking ragged, is it such a huge chore for a business owner near a board to clear the board of posters that are now out-of-date? Some store employees are taking their breaks outside and look at these boards as well, and I am positive that these employees are just as disgusted with the look and would want to make the area more presentable. As I said, this is my view and opinion as an outsider and also a member of the gay community where I live in London, Ontario. Maybe in improving your area, it might catch on to other communities. Mike Miedzinski London, Ontario
mike miedzinski, London Ontario
09/29/12 10:36 AM EST
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You're Wrong, Won-Tam
What better way to announce to international queer tourists that they've arrived in Queertown than to see old/new ratty/glossy posters of beefy dudes and leather events and weird theme dances and myriad freaky alternative cultural happenings popping out in their faces from every lamp post and street corner??? These posters MARK OUR TURF,lady. It's a hodge-podge collage, artful in their tackiness...and as a local, they make me feel right at HOME. Seems like the gentrification/neat safe tidy vanilla-ization pogrom continues...
Ken, Toronto Ontario
09/29/12 10:42 AM EST
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Quick Correction
Make that "You're Wrong WONG-Tam"
Ken, Toronto Ontario
09/29/12 10:48 AM EST
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Aside To Xtra's Web-site Techies
Can you folks work your digital magic so that quote marks appear AS quote marks in Comments? I see this " thing all the time, and it's kinda aggravating. Thank you!!
Ken, Toronto Ontario
09/29/12 11:07 AM EST
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@Ken - Here's a work-around
Ken, it's true that quotation marks don't work well in the comment boxes on xtra.ca. I don't think Xtra is able to fix it, or they presumably would have done so by now. It appears that if you type quotation marks in a sentence that has certain other characters like an apostrophe or a bracket, the text in the comment box will be garbled after you press the submit button. As a work-around, rather than use quotation marks, you should just begin a quotation with (quote) and end it with (end of quote). For example, Ken Popert once said (quote) Gay and lesbian publishing is not really a profitable activity (end of quote).
Matt, Toronto Ontario
09/29/12 11:49 AM EST
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Disappointing
The BIA simply doesn't get it. They're completely out of touch with the neighbourhood and simply want to censor everything. A real disappointment to those of us who have used postering as a means to advertise fundraisers.
Iain, Toront Ontario
09/29/12 11:57 AM EST
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We can all play a part in finding a solution.
Kristyn Wong-Tam is doing her job in listening to her constituents. If she says this is the number one complaint, I have to respect that. But this problem will not simply vanish; the BIA should play an active role in finding an alternative. "There are two community event boards in the Church and Wellesley Village." Where? I've lived in the Village for more than 10 years and I'm not aware of these boards; I'm sure I pass them all the time but they are not a solution if they do not attract attention or really work in helping spread information on community events. We definitely need more of these boards, and in prominent locations (i.e., right beside pedestrians on the sidewalks) if they are to be a viable alternative. Speaking of viable alternatives, "advertise on the BIA website"? Who knows that there is a BIA website? Who looks at it? Who's going to? I'm online all day long and I've never seen it. As for those who poster - has anyone attempted any study on the effectiveness of posters? I'd guess that social media is playing a larger role in advertising local events these days. It wouldn't be hard at all to survey people coming in the door at an event and find out how/where each person heard about the event to figure out if the posters are doing their job...
Kim, Toronto Ontario
09/29/12 12:28 PM EST
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riffraff, cigarette smoke, bad attitudes, litter
The REAL reason people are complaining about the postering is obvious. It has nothing to do with the legality of it. It's because the majority of these posters are for gay nightclub events that feature sexual images of half-naked men. Remember the Fetish Fair? Case closed. As Church St becomes more diverse (which is code for "less gay") the new neighbours and new businesses don't want to see all that ass everywhere. It may be a fair enough point but in my opinion there are far more offensive things about the Village in its current state. Just today I watched a common dreg steal a pack of strawberries from a local small grocer, eat 1 or 2, then tossed the rest onto the ground. No regard. He was then joined by a group sitting by the school up to no good. Some days walking past the 519 makes you feel like you're in Vancouver's East-End. Don't people complain about that to Counsillor Wong-Tam? I've watched people puke on the sidewalk like it's nothing, and openly harass people for money and attention. Or what about the heavy fumes of cigarette smoke and car exhaust, doesn't that bother anyone? It seems curious to me that there's a crackdown on postering when there are so many other more serious offenses being committed in our hood every day. Finally as Bill said in the first comment, it's a depressing neighbourhood as is, and that's not going to change because of cleaned-up street lamps.
Ryan, Toronto ON
09/29/12 2:53 PM EST
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Piecemeal band-aid solutions to a bigger problem
Montreal's LGBT Village is a vibrant success story. They got their businesses going by beautifying the area. Montreal hired a landscape architect to envision a unifying theme for their Village. Why can't our Toronto LGBT Village do that? They made their Village into a no-cars, pedestrians only mall --all summer-long-- which is what helped improve their businesses. Why can't our Toronto LGBT Village do that? They are reaching out to artists to enliven their Village with interesting installations. Why can't our Toronto LGBT Village do that? There is enough LGBT talent, skill and leadership to make our Church/Wellesley Village into a spectacular place. What is holding us back ?? !! Is it the Straight business owners? Is it CIty Council? Is it lack of funds? Is it lack of interest? Is it lack of leadership? All of the above? If you put a frog into boiling water it will jump out...The best way to boil a frog is to put it into comfortably warm water and then very slowly raise the heat to a boiling point. Toronto LGBT Village needs a catastrophe as an urgent “wake-up call.” The BIA should hire a Landscape Architect to beautify the area as a unified theme. These piecemeal little efforts are “band-aid solutions” to a bigger problem.
Joe, TO ON
09/29/12 4:12 PM EST
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OMG!
OMG has anybody told Reg Hartt? He'll be devastated! ;)
John, Hamner Ont
09/29/12 4:24 PM EST
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Gay Montreal's success story in Pictures
Check-out Montreal's “Gay Village.” Why Can't the Toronto LGBT Village do something as spectacular? They hired a landscape architect to create a unified theme. Why can't we do that in Toronto? http://www.adelto.co.uk/aires-libres-and-montreals-gay-village-anniversary-canada/
Joe, TO ON
09/29/12 6:15 PM EST
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I like the posters!
The posters on utility poles on Church Street are an expression of LGBT identity - regardless of whether it's a poster for a nightclub party for young gay men or a poster for a left-wing political cause. The posters are more interesting than any of the drab stores and second-rate bars and eateries on Church Street.
Kevin, Toronto ON
09/29/12 6:30 PM EST
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SSHH, if you listen closely you can hear...
...You dirty Filthy Faggots, we''ll get you! You dirty Filthy Faggots, first we'll stop anything GAY (especially M2M) and kink happening, FETISH FAIRS and so on, then we'll take down those dirty filthy posters with photo's of GAY MEN, MEN, MEN, MEN, MEN in jockstraps and being GAY. You FILTHY DISGUSTING FAGGOTS! We'll do it with a smile and help from OUR (not yours) Lesbian Councillor. And will make you take it because you're too busy having sex to figure out what's going on! ROTFLMAO
PROUD ---DIRTY--- FAGGOT, Toronto ON
09/29/12 8:28 PM EST
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I'll make sure I remember
to walk by a wrap pole or community board regardless of whether or not it is in my direction of motion to check out the possibility of seeing a poster to an event I might like to attend. Idiots. As far as I can tell the BIA and Wong-Tam hate gay men. Let's face it, it's all about gay (not queer) men in sexy poses. I'm starting to wonder if the BIA and their members are also responsible for the quick disappearance of copies of X-TRA and FAB in the village boxes.
kyle, toronto on
09/29/12 10:01 PM EST
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That word "clean"....Nutbars always use.
I'm just not going to succumb to this attempt to shame me because I'm a gay man who likes posters of sexy men to advertise events. I just won't feel ashamed and I most certainly will not feel "dirty"! FU to anyone who dares to make me feel ashamed.
Raine, Toronto Ontario
09/29/12 10:18 PM EST
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Beautiful does not mean tidy
Posters are both the instruments and the evidence of an active community. Former mayor David Miller wanted to get rid of newspaper street boxes, which he pronounced ugly. It seems that city officials rarely talk about beautification except in the context of removing community expression. Makes you think.
Ken Popert, Toronto Ontario
10/01/12 10:15 AM EST
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Really Wong-Tam?
I want to know who these "residents" are. Are they possibly a group of Islamists offended by such a display working their jihadist magic on you? Who are they? Or is it some group of fanatical Christians? Who ARE these "residents" you speak of? Is this based on just telephone calls to your office? That alone would give me a heads up if I was Councillor. What's going on here? I'm quite skeptical of your claim. Something doesn't smell right. And I wish you would please stop associating yourself with people who essentially are calling gay men expression as "dirty". I don't think gay men voted for you thinking you would turn out to be so darn icky. Thank you.
Tracer, Toronto ON
10/01/12 10:51 AM EST
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KEEP POSTERS
I think the posters ADD to the vibrancy of the Village and to see them go is JUST WRONG. It seems like displaced censorship by the BIA.
jeff, toronto on
10/01/12 3:49 PM EST
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Thank You All PRO-Posters!
I think jeff's comment (quote)...It seems like displaced censorship by the BIA (unquote) sums it up best. (And thanks to Matt for your sensible quote key solution!) I have a vision of what Church Street will look like 5 years from now -- dull and genteel and EXACTLY like St. Clair & Yonge. Thank you queer-crushing BIA and Thank You Krystyn Wong-Tam - you will definitely NOT be getting my vote again next election.
Ken, Toronto Ontario
10/01/12 11:28 PM EST
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Option+LeftBracket =“ (OpenQuote)
Option+LeftBracket =“ (OpenQuote) Shift+Option+LeftBracket =” (CloseQuote) “ ” Like this: “Quote” —But only on a Mac. —Shift+Option+hyphen. LOL
Joe, TO ON
10/02/12 2:25 AM EST
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@ Joe re quotes
Good Heavens, this is becoming confusing! I don't have a degree in Computer SCiences and my brain is addled! Thank you, though. LRBATY (Laugh Right Back At Ya')
Ken, Toronto Ontario
10/02/12 11:29 AM EST
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Keystrokes
I am not the Joe who provided the keystrokes above, but I have been touch-typing those since 1984 with no difficulty. We’ve upped our standards; up yours.
Joe Clark, Toronto ON
10/02/12 4:45 PM EST
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condo masters
Please, the BIA lackeys are only following the steps their new condo masters are laying out for them PROUD ---DIRTY--- FAGGOT is bang on.
Christopher King, Toronto ON
10/02/12 7:09 PM EST
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@Joe Clark re Keystrokes
Really Mr. Clark, there's no need for boorishness here. Chill, my friend.
Ken, Yoronto Ontario
10/03/12 1:29 AM EST
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You must be new here, Ken
And the only gay male without a sense of humour.
Joe Clark, Toronto ON
10/05/12 1:45 PM EST
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Grow up people
There are several new poster boards in the village now, ample space for important announcements featuring naked men. No one seems to have thought to thank the BIA for funding these. So allow me to be the first. THANKS BIA! You're providing awesome, visible spaces for postering in the village, which lets our gay event promoters get their messages out effectively and efficiently. And it keeps the village cleaner and more inviting. To those who see this as an infringement on gay rights: You'd think these events were performing some sort of community service. Promoters use sex to sell a product. But calm down. It's not the sex on the posters that's the issue, it's the way their unencumbered proliferation makes the neighbourhood look tattered and uninviting. The village will look a lot better once these pole wraps are in place. And you'll know where to look for announcements about your next jockstrap sock hop. It's win-win, thanks to this well-thought-out initiative. KWT you still have my vote, and the vote of all level-headed gay people in the village.
George, Toronto Ontario
10/12/12 1:04 PM EST
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I hate Posters
As a non-downtown resident I rely on websites and our two gay newspapers to tell me what's going on in the clubs and bars. Postering is the most ineffective way to communicate. I've watched as someone will put up a poster and 5 minutes later someone else will cover that with 2 different ones. Then someone comes along and covers those with 3 different ones. Our village does look unkept and getting rid of posters is a great first start. The only ones who are pro-poster have some sort of vested interest in them. During PRIDE I even see them tacked to trees! Come on people get real. They're horrible and I commend the new look and initiative to beautify our village.
Gilbert, Toronto Ontario
10/14/12 9:26 PM EST
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Oh man
It is about the gay imagery on the posters. If it was about anything else those hideous over-sized signs hawking mobile phones, botox and all the other stupid crappy trinkets for idiot brain dead consumers would also be dealt with. But they're not. Its the gay male sex stupid.
Chris, Toronto ON
10/14/12 10:53 PM EST
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Crime?
I agree, the poles are a mess and I'll be happy to finally see all that crap gone. More than the poles businesses need to spruce up their storefronts to make them more friendly looking and interesting, see what Woody's has done as an example. Crime is the real issue in the Village over the 10 or so years, where is any police presence? Each year there are more and more problems not only on the street but in all of the apartments in the area which have now mostly had to hire security at night but it has already turned into a cat & mouse game trying to keep the trespassers/drug users/dealers out of the stairwells & parking garages
greg hannah, toronto ON
10/19/12 2:22 AM EST
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