Tories want ISPs to collect and store personal data
ANALYSIS / Cops could get names & addresses, without a warrant
Krishna Rau / Ottawa / Monday, July 13, 2009
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In its final days before breaking for the summer, the federal government introduced legislation that will make it easier for police to obtain information on internet users.

If you're organizing a protest via email or running a listserv for a sex club or bathhouse, or soliciting online, police will be able to obtain your name and address — and possibly a whole lot more.

The government introduced two bills — the Investigative Powers for the 21st Century Act and the Technical Assistance for Law Enforcement in the 21st Century Act — on Jun 18.

"We must ensure that law enforcement has the necessary tools to catch up to the bad guys and ultimately bring them to justice," said Justice Minister Rob Nicholson at a press conference. "Twenty-first century technology calls for 21st-century tools."

The Conservatives are using the spectre of child porn and sex hysteria to explain the need for police to be able to access intercepted online communications.

"Criminals, child pornographers, organized crime members and terrorists are aware of these interception safe havens," said Public Safety Minister Peter van Loan at the same press conference.

The bills will force internet service providers (ISPs) to install technology capable of intercepting and storing information and transmissions from their subscribers. ISPs will have 18 months to install the equipment, unless they have less than 100,000 subscribers, in which case they have three years.

Once the equipment is installed, police will be able to require certain information from ISPs upon demand, without a warrant. That would include names, IP and home addresses of subscribers. Currently, police require a warrant to obtain such information, although ISPs provide such information without one under some circumstances.

Obtaining the actual content of your communications will still be slightly more difficult for police. Under the new legislation, police will be able to require an ISP to freeze all information and communications from a particular subscriber. The company would be unable to delete any information. Police would then have to obtain a "production order" from a court within 21 days to allow them to access that information or to force the ISP to hold the information for a further 90 days.

A production order, however, has a lower threshold of proof than a warrant. Police have to show "reasonable grounds to suspect criminal activity" — which could, of course, includes everything from a direct-action-style protest to two gay teens arranging to have sex. A warrant requires police to show reasonable grounds to believe that a criminal offence is actually being committed, legally a tougher standard to meet.



Of course, if an ISP is willing to just hand over the information to police, as a paper on the Public Safety Canada website says some are, then the whole thing becomes moot.

As for the technology required, while some ISPs are protesting at being forced to expand their infrastructure, the fact is some of the larger ISPs already use suitable technology, which gives them the power to pry into their clients' online communications.

The Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC) has filed complaints against Bell and Rogers, among other ISPs, with the federal office of the Privacy Commissioner over the use of software called Deep Packet Technology to control their internet traffic.

"There's almost no limit to what they can do," CIPPIC director Philippa Lawson told Xtra in December. "They could be going through web traffic, e-mails, collecting that data and building up a profile."

The legislation will not come before the legislature until parliament resumes sitting in the fall. But unless the bills are derailed by an election call, a vote in the house is likely to pass.

The Conservative measures are almost identical to a bill put forward in Nov 2005 by the then-Liberal government. That legislation died when an election was called, but contained the same measures as in the present bills.

And the NDP also buys into child porn hysteria. NDP MP Peter Stoffer put forward a private member's bill in 2007 that would have required ISPs to monitor the activities of their clients, and would hold them criminally and financially responsible for any illegal material posted online by those clients.

"What's the cost of protecting our children, of protecting society?" Stoffer told Xtra at the time. "The privacy advocates can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned. I have two young children. We should do everything in our power to protect children. I don't believe in capital punishment, but I'm willing to make an exception. If it was my children, you wouldn't have to worry about the law."

Especially not about privacy laws, it seems.


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Reader Comments


 
This is a good thing!
It's about time these laws were passed. 'Child porn hysteria' ???? This is a very serious problem!! It's not hysterics!! Even if only 1 child in every 10,000,000 was a victim, That is still too many!! We need to protect our most vulnerable members of society!! Also, These laws help our community too. Just think of all of the Ecstasy or Crystal Meth producers/distributors that could be tracked down.////// '...which could, of course, includes everything from a direct-action-style protest to two gay teens arranging to have sex'... Now who's being hysterical? I think the police have better things to do than worry about two 13 year olds petting each other. This might be hard of a gay writer to understand but the police do a great job almost all of the time. We should trust them to do their jobs.///// These law don't violate peoples privacy. It's no different than preserving and taking evidence like blood, DNA, fingerprints, documents, foot prints, ect. from a crime scene. The only difference is that the crime scene is virtual instead of physical.
..., .... Canada
07/13/09 3:44 PM EST
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A price too high
A previous commenter says "We should trust them to do their jobs". No, we shouldn't. If the RCMP can taser a man to death on video, and then tell us all it didn't happen, I'm not trusting any of them. If a Texas bar can be raided on the anniversary of Stonewall, sending a patron to intensive care with a bleeding brain, I'm not trusting any of them. There are elements of society who want to control our communications, and the best way to do that is via the internet. The usual claims are about copyright, terrorism, and "traffic shaping". But when that doesn't work, they go nuclear with supposed threats to children. And yet they fail to provide any proof. We're just supposed to trust them that this problem is so widespread, and that they know how to solve it, and that they won't abuse their power. I don't believe any of those things. The internet should be encouraged to be the free speech machine that it is, not a place where people have to wonder about government surveillance and interception. Truly, the most vulnerable in our society include those who are not free to communicate as they see fit. Once that goes, anything can follow.
Randy, Windsor ON
07/13/09 6:42 PM EST
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Overreach by people not to be trusted.
Repeat after me: the police cannot be trusted. The police will overstep their authority. Allowing warrant-less access to out data on the internet is a further blow to all of our civil liberties. Over the past few years, police have busted many child pornographers with the current set of tools available to them. There's no persuasive reason to grant them more powers.. only scare tactics to cow the citizenry.
Dan, Toronto ON
07/14/09 1:11 PM EST
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Jeez...never saw this coming. *sarcasm*
"Child porn hysteria" Thank god someone finally said it. The current social panic around terrorism and kiddy porn makes the McCarthy Era's homosexual-communist witchhunts seem like a cheerful community pastime by comparison. At least the communists could hide. It's one thing to make the acts illegal; it's another thing to give the State the power to spy on people who disagree with the law. Honestly I'm scared to even write this post. Readers who think this is such a good idea ought to ask themselves when was the last time they read a news article that interviewed one of the alleged "victims" in these cases. There is a HUGE difference between consensual sex among teens and child rape, yet the law rarely makes the distinction and the newspapers never do. As for terrorists--when was the last time Canada was attacked by extremists? But at least half the Canadian population is terrified of its own government. What does that tell us about "terror"?
Nathan, Regina Saskatchewan
07/14/09 8:51 PM EST
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Oh my God My Rights!!!
We can't trust the police eh? Well Dan, Randy, do you have a better solution? Who the hell else is going to enforce the law? Who the hell else is going to track down criminals? Who the hell else is going to keep society from descending into anarchy? You? Me? Whoever? I've said it before and I'll say it again if any of us got bashed where would we go? We would be running our gay assess down to the police. So, wake up! And as for Nathan yeah, I bet those 14 year old's were just ''asking for it'' when an 18+ year old seduced them into a sexual encounter right? The numbers are arbitrary but that's how laws work, arbitrarily go figure...Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can break it, or have ''consensual'' sex with underage children. Like I said it's not a violation of civil liberties to take DNA, finger prints, blood, or documents left behind in a crime scene right? The only difference now is that the crime scene is on the net. All the police are doing is taking and preserving evidence left behind by people at a crime scene.
....., ..... ......
07/15/09 6:38 AM EST
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How brave
Gee,..... ..... of ..... -- way to show the "courage" of your convictions by using your "real name" -- *snort* What'cha so scared of? A police state, or something? (Or is that really you posting "incognito", Julian "El Dunce" Fantino?)
Nathanial, Slocan Valley BC
07/15/09 3:55 PM EST
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Real gay boys
Criminalize this at your moral peril. From a discussion yesterday. J (now 20 years old): The best was actually at 12 yo when I was dating an 18yo J: He actually thought the world of me C: i'm not surprised... how did he ever manage to lose you? :( J: He went off to college. I actually just saw him again a few months ago. Yeah it was sad C: what was it like seeing him again? J: Interesting. Being six years older than I am, he looks nothing like he did back then. I was 4'8" then too lol C: so does he have a bf? J: No, hes married... C: what do you think? is he one of those married BLs or was going out with a 12 yo just a side trail for him? J: Not at the time. He was all about me, like I was god to him. J: One call and I had anything I wanted. C: so what does he say about it now, if anything? J: Not much. I think that’s more sad than losing him in the first place
Christiaan Xaviereis, Amherst Mass
08/10/09 2:00 PM EST
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