Obama administration meets with gay leaders in Uganda
INTERNATIONAL / Diplomats promise to fight anti-gay bill
Kaj Hasselriis / National / Wednesday, March 10, 2010
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This is the 10th in a series of articles from Uganda by Xtra freelance reporter Kaj Hasselriis.

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Brown Kiyimba, a Unitarian minister and member of the Civil Society Coalition, attended the Mar 3 meeting with US dipomats in Kampala. He is pictured here at a Feb 14 gay rights conference in Kampala.
(Benedicte Desrus / Sipa Press)
Two high-level US diplomats from Washington had a one-hour meeting with gay rights leaders in Uganda to strategize against the country's controversial anti-gay bill.

"They promised to fight hard to make sure the bill doesn't go through," said Brown Kiyimba, a Unitarian minister.

Kiyimba was one of five gay rights leaders at the meeting, which took place on Mar 3 at the US embassy in Kampala. Like Kiyimba, the other four leaders were members of the Civil Society Coalition, a network of Ugandan NGOs that oppose the bill.

The two diplomats who travelled from Washington were from the US Bureau of African Affairs — Geeta Pasi, the bureau's East Africa director and Bruce Wharton, the bureau's director of public affairs. They were joined by a Kampala embassy staff member.

"They wanted to know what the embassy and government at large can do to stop the bill," said Kiyimba.

According to Kiyimba, gay leaders suggested a range of strategies, including imposing economic sanctions on the country and convincing US Evangelicals who are popular in Uganda to speak out more forcefully against the bill.

One member of the Civil Society Coalition even urged a Ugandan visit from US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, but Kiyimba said the image of Clinton smiling and shaking hands with Ugandan politicians would make it look like she endorses their anti-gay views.

Civil Society members asked the US government to support the coalition's work against the bill, but no money was promised at the meeting. Diplomats did, however, promise to consider granting American visas to Ugandan gay leaders so they can travel to the US this summer and raise awareness about the legislation.

Kiyimba said the diplomats spoke very little at the meeting. "Mostly they wanted to hear from us," said Kiyimba.

But US officials expressed specific concern about American investment in the fight against HIV/AIDS. Many people, including members of the coalition, believe that, if the bill passes, it will drive homosexuality in Uganda further underground, making it harder to give safe sex information to gays and lesbians.

The gay rights leaders in attendance also expressed concern about the safety of activists who are getting more and more publicly known for their views — and sexual orientations. "People at the grassroots are insecure," Kiyimba said he told the diplomats. "We're becoming known as people who are promoting homosexuality."

Just walking down the street is becoming scary for some community members, Kiyimba said. He added that, if the bill passes, many people are already planning to flee the country. That led to a short discussion on what the US government might be able to do to help asylum-seekers.

The Obama administration's opposition to Uganda's anti-gay bill — which calls for the execution of gays and lesbians who have homo sex more than once, the imprisonment of people who keep gays hidden and the abolition of organizations that advocate for gay rights — is well-known. Clinton spoke with Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni about the legislation last fall, and US President Barack Obama recently denounced it in a speech.

But until now, it was not known that the US government is actively soliciting the views of Uganda's gays and lesbians.

Kiyimba said he wishes last week's meeting had happened sooner. "The meeting is a bit late," he said. "They should have consulted us last fall."

But he said he was encouraged by the supportive tone of the embassy meeting, as well as the diplomats' assurance that there would be other get-togethers in the future.

"I take it as a start," said Kiyimba. "It's just a beginning. The Obama administration is seriously concerned about the bill and committed to help."

This reporter sat outside the US embassy in Kampala during the meeting and afterwards and talked to one other participant who confirmed Kiyimba's account of the meeting's agenda and tone. Xtra contacted the US embassy for comment but did not receive an answer.

Xtra's series of reports from Uganda wraps up in two more installments. Read the previous articles here.

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Reader Comments


 
The bill's worse than that
While on its face, the bill appears to call for the execution of gay people who have sex more than once, in fact a much wider group of people are eligible to be executed. There's a YouTube video entitled "Kill the Gays and all their friends too" that explains this, step by step, using the text of the bill.
Randy, Windsor ON
03/10/10 2:24 PM EST
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Better late than never
As Brown Kymimba says this meeting has come rather late. Still, those of us who have been following this horrific story have had a reassuring feeling all along. Personally, it strikes me as inconceivable that a developing country bound by international contracts would be so disrupted by religious nutters as to go against the tide of world-wide Human Rights and Gay Liberation at the risk of losing financial support from the West. As for the "Kill-the-Gays" Bill itself, the previous commentator, Randy, is absolutely right. Check it out here and pass it along before contacting your MP so that Harper will be encouraged to continue applying pressure on Uganda's Museveni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fuEsRJp2nU
jean-Paul, Bathurst N.B.
03/10/10 6:02 PM EST
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asylum in Canada available
I would the Canadian gov't makes it clear that gays/lesbians fleeing Uganda after this bill goes through would be granted refugee status in Canada and that even the anti-gay IRB members are instructed to allow the refugee claims of gays amd lesbians from Uganda and any other such country. If we can't stop the bill at least we can offer asylum to its victims.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
03/12/10 11:28 AM EST
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Last chance for Ssempa
The voice of reason comes to us from Rev. Desmond Tutu: http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/03/12/Tutu_on_Gay_Rights_in_Africa/ This appears to be Ssempa's last chance to turn this thing around. He is now virtually alone..the American talibangelists are nowhere to be found, but Scott Lively did say that he never intended for things to get out of hand like this. Again, I feel sorry for Mrs. Ssempa and the children; but I feel nothing for Martin Ssempa, nothing but utter amazement at such blind hubris and stupidity.
Jean-Paul, Bathurst N.B.
03/12/10 2:59 PM EST
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Bahati and Ssempa out on a limb
Today's post in GayUganda reports that the religious leaders in Uganda have agreed that the proposed anti-gay legislation would undermine family values. Indeed. When a father turns in his gay son to a certain death...that would destroy a family. Also, church authorities have proclaimed that the bill would also undermine the evangelical value of reaching out to the "sinner" in love and compassion because a death sentence does not give the "sinner" a chance to "repent". I suppose that is better than nothing, but it is nowhere as essentially true as Rev. Desmond Tutu's reflection that scientific discoveries have revealed the tremendous diversity of legitimate sexual identities in the human race. Without wishing harm on anyone, I can't help but remember the desperate measures taken by religious fanatics when they were found themselves out on a limb. e.g. Waco, Jonestown. Again, I feel sorry for Ssempa's wife and children. Humpty Dumpty is about to take a great fall...whether or not he "repents". http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/02/25/harper-hero-to-uganda%E2%80%99s-homosexuals/
Jean-Paul, Bathurst N.B.
03/13/10 1:46 PM EST
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our bill
EDITOR For us here in Uganda we do not care wherether who sends who?,from where. Yes we fancy President Obama as a president of US and the first Black American President but if it comes to our Religious and cultural Norms the we cant accept that. Anti-Hormo's bill was tabled in Parliament and we are waiting for the committe tp produce a report and the House will decide but not external "presure" from "above". The hearing of the views is open to every one including the "diplomats" so its a matter of convincing Ugandans not threatening them WE will abid with what our Parliament decides.
bogere, mbarara uganda western
03/13/10 1:59 PM EST
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international contracts..m-m-m
bogere: blow it out your ear. One party 'democracies' like the one in Uganda do not represent the will of the people and you know it.
Jean-Paul, Bathurst N.B.
03/13/10 7:11 PM EST
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Enlightened version
bogere: Amnesty International has analyzed Uganda's "Kill-the-Gays" Bill: http://allafrica.com/view/resource/main/main/id/00020032.html Now please don't take this the wrong way, but Ssempa has led you all astray, and so has George Oounda and Scott Lively. Have you noticed that Ssempa's photo on his blog site is getting larger and larger??are you familiar with the word 'megalomaniac'?
Jean-Paul, Bathurst N.B.
03/13/10 8:00 PM EST
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BUY RICH'S IDEA
I think every one that thinks that here in Uganda the Bill is meant to kill the homo's, it seems that already you have anticipated defeat and actually that shows how much passionate we Ugandans become when it comes to fighting to our degnity and Our religious values, so if as you've already seen that the bill might pass not wholely as it is or as it is then you buy Rich's of Toronto Ontario and gaurantee your friends and brothers/sisters. But i think you need to atleast listen to our local Radios like Impact fm on www.victoryuganda.org you will see the passion and actually now for me i will take the campaign to western Uganda now and we see that we stop this bad act that is going to destroy our children and more seriously with GOD.
Bogere, Mbarara Uganda Western
03/14/10 12:39 AM EST
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Grow up, bogere!
The last thing Western Uganda needs right now is some religious nutter like you blaming the mud-slides on homosexuals. Your entire worldview is over 4,000 years old. Desmond Tutu has presented you with the option of growing up. The only thing threatening your society is the 'kill-the-gays' Bill. What kind of family values will remain in Uganda when a father has a son executed or imprisoned? What kind of family values are reflected in Uganda's child sacrifices???...children are being beheaded for religious purposes in Northern Uganda as we speak...you know that. You can't blame that on us. And moreover, what are you doing posting on a gay site? If you believe we are evil, it should be your duty as "christian" to avoid us, not come on here trying to harass us and disrupt us like that idiot bully, Ssempa, who is about to wake up with egg on his face, him and his triple X gay porn in church. Rev Desmond Tutu has been awarded a Nobel Peace Prize; where did Ssempa get his doctorate?? At which University did Ssempa study to get a doctorate degree?? He didn't study for it at all! He is a phoney baloney, and a liar. He has even denied that the "kill-the-gays" Bill intends to kill gays when he knows every word of that Bill by heart....and so do I, but I doubt that you do, bogere. Pay attention to your Rev Tutu because he has it right: Jesus did not say "love one another except the gays". And if you think you can spread your stupid poison in Canada's Gay Community, you don't know what you're in for. You would do better to look for Rick Warren. Boy, did he pull a fast one on you guys. And then there's Scott Lively. Where do you suppose he is now when you really, really need him? He's getting fatter on the money he stole in Uganda because you are incapable of using your brains to think for yourselves. But what do you expect when you have been taught to follow the leader (Museveni) without the least opposition. And now the elections are being rigged
Jean-Paul, Bathurst N.B.
03/14/10 1:18 AM EST
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