Is trans gay?
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Sky Gilbert / National / Wednesday, February 01, 2012
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Who cares? Why talk about identity categories at all? When people ask me why I am interested in terms like gay, straight or transgendered, I speak of Brandon Teena, who was murdered in 1993 in Lincoln, Nebraska, or Jamie Hubley, the Canadian gay teen who committed suicide due to depression over bullying on Oct 15, 2011. In such cases words like dyke, fag and tranny are hurled at people as terms of abuse. In other words, I would – like the founders of the gay liberation movement – be pleased when we all become one. Unfortunately, the time has not arrived. Until it does, we must own the terms of abuse that are so often hurled against us and be proud queers, dykes and trannies.
 
I am specifically interested in whether or not transgendered people are gay. This is not because I don’t like them, or because I am jealously guarding my own personal identity category. (In fact, in The Globe and Mail I recently spoke out about what I think is wrong with the gay identity today.) No, my concern is about what seems to be a general assimilationist tendency in minority politics. In other words, many think that racism, misogyny and homophobia are pretty much over and that people are tired of listening to what whining feminists, anti-racists and gay libbers have to say. Even many members of the Tea Party and the Occupy movements work hard to be considered representative of the majority.
 
Gay men are obsessed with reminding everyone how much like straight people they are. They’re the only ones these days that really want to join the army (Bradley Manning may be one infamous exception) and still line up for the best pews at church. And long after most straights have come to view marriage with cynicism, gay men still get all dewy-eyed at the prospect of turning their favourite dirty john into their respectable husband, Johnny.
 
And while many trans people are passionately committed to being members of a radical minority, others, well, they’re kind of not.
 
I should begin by stating that I consider myself a transgendered person. I do not live 24 hours a day representing myself as belonging to the gender that I was not assigned at birth. Many people consider this to be the working definition of transgendered. But I am a proud drag queen and an effeminate gay male, one who makes others uncomfortable with his often-unintended flamboyance, and is often denied basic human respect, because of that.
 
In our community there are two kinds of people: those who want to assimilate and those who celebrate and enjoy difference.
 
What excites me about the transgender movement is the commitment of those who celebrate their visible outsider status. What is less exciting to me are those who – when they are able to pass – decide to take full advantage of the rights and privileges offered to them as heterosexuals. For some transgendered people the goal is to marry a person of the opposite sex, have children, go to church, get a good job, buy lots of cheap products from Walmart, and not ruffle any feathers. Of course one cannot blame them for wanting affluence and acceptance, but they are not gay, at least in the old gay liberation sense of the word.
 
To all my trans friends who are married, have children, and who pass: more power to you. But unless you want to proclaim your queerness and your difference every day, and experience the corresponding loss of privilege – which is what being out means – then I would suggest you just call yourselves straight.
 
I say this because I used to be 100 percent behind all trans people. This is partially because I am one, but also, because trans was once the only queer identity that seemed to enjoy challenging the status quo. However, I recently read an article in Toronto’s The Grid magazine by Sarah Liss about high school gay-straight alliances that stated “‘coming out’ can be a very fraught issue in the trans community, where passing can be a significant part of identity.” As I say, I have nothing against trans people who wish to pass, but if their don’t-rock-the-boat approach to their lives persuades young members of the already too conservative gay and lesbian community that the closet is okay, then we are all in big trouble.
 
Yay trans! Yay gay, queer, dyke, fag! And, yes, okay, yay straight! But if you want to be exactly the same as everyone else, you are now part of a bigger club that some of us don’t actually want to join, but instead would love to challenge to the core.


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include me please!
I'm trans too! I live with a genetic girl and I have been with a trans girl during our 2 years of transition! So before the surgery and after! IM, on the board of Montreal pride --> I'm out and proud of who I am! I pass 100% all the time! I decided to have my style to conform with my job. IM an engineer! I dress like mu co-workers at office! In fact I don't know if I want to merge in the "hetero" world! I'm just me and fucking really proud of myself! I'M Marie-Ève Baron and I invite every one who want to celebrate their difference to come at our pride in August
Marie-Ève Baron, Montreal Qc
02/01/12 11:13 AM EST
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You seem to forget
that some trans people who are married, have children, and who pass as cis, are very much gay, as in, in visibly same gender relationships. Unless you are suggesting that the gay men you described in paragraph 3 should be considered straight...
Shaed, Edmonton AB
02/01/12 12:28 PM EST
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You can be queer/gay AND trans
Oooohkay Sky, First, you spelled a slur wrong. Second, for the love of Liza, please don't use that slur. A simple Google search would have let you know the difference between gender and sexual orientation. Where gender labels are used to define your lived experience/how you identify/who you identify with/your sexed body, sexual orientation labels are used to explain who you are into/wanna fuck. So no, being trans doesn't make you gay - it has nothing to do with anyone else, let alone the people you may be fucking. Now, you can be queer AND trans if your sexual orientation isn't straight, and you can even be a gender non-conforming trans person (Hi! queer trans dude who does drag occasionally here!). Some of us trans folk are in LGBQ communities, some of us aren't. But you can't judge those who aren't, just like you can't judge cis hetero folk who aren't. And that has got nothing to do with "passing". "Passing" or blending with cis people (i.e. non-trans), has more to do with living as yourself the best you can. And if people assume your cis - that's their issue. And if you are a douchecanoe conservative hetero bigot who happens to be trans - uh stay away from me. Being trans though, doesn't make you owe cis folk anything in terms of "visibility". We "came out" when we decided to live our lives as ourselves. We are out. Many of us are 24/7. We don't, however, need to disclose personal medical information for your entertainment, unless we feel like it, thank-you-very-much. But asking the question "is trans gay?" is like asking the question "is everyone in Ottawa gay?". Clearly not enough. But both are not mutually inclusive categories. As someone who is queer, and happens to be trans, I would really appreciate it if you would make use of Google, spell-check, and some transmeducation when writing your articles. Have a fabulous day!
Queer"Tyranny", Ottawa Ontario
02/01/12 12:45 PM EST
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What the hell?
There are so many stupid premises in this article...first even though it does not explicitly say it the article implies that gay men who can ''pass'' are not being true to themselves and are trying to assimilate and that their straight-acting behavior is a fake attempt at gaining power. I hate to break it to all of the radical ''queers'' but as hard as it is for you to understand some gay men are not and have never wanted to be effeminate nancy boys. It doesn't appeal to them. Second, brush up on your history early homophile movements from the 20's-40's in Europe and Canada very right wing and very assimilationist. Third: The attitude of this article is very similar to the attitude appearing in Black American communities where if you assimilate and try to become a productive member of society then you're somehow betraying your community and acting ''white''. Fuck that! All of us (trans gay lesbian whatever) have the right to be successful and work within society in a productive way. Just because I'm in the army and thus have a job and I am trying to be a productive contributing member to a country and society I care about does not make me fucking straight! Fuck, I'm angry now! Angry at the stupidity of this article and its author!
Mike, Edmonton AB
02/01/12 1:38 PM EST
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Huh?
So... there's only one way to be gay? There's only one way to be trans?
Erin, Ottawa Ontario
02/01/12 4:52 PM EST
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Bela Legosi's undead (again)
Beyond yawn. An embarrassing clown! About as radical as a lemon pledge hot shot. Madge, you're soaking in it. Sky Gilbert is the Jethrine Bodine of southern Ontario "queerdom". 1978 called and wants its eyebrows back.
the dead, Toronto Ontario
02/01/12 5:28 PM EST
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:/
I could only make it half way through this. try reading a book or something; my homophobic father has a better grasp on these concepts than you do. and it's Breanna Manning, not Bradley Manning.
daniel, toronto ontario
02/04/12 12:35 PM EST
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Rebel without a clue
Gee, "Sky" you are so hip and transgressive and cool. You're an outsider! A rebel! If that's how you want to spend your life, go for it. Don't take the rest of us along for the ride. You want to define yourself by whatever slurs come out of the mouth of homophobic bullies? Go for it. Hope it works out for you. But don't you dare tell young gay and lesbian kids that they "must own" those slurs. They mustn't do anything of the sort. They will define themselves the way they want to be defined as individuals, not as their bullies would define them. And not as you define them. You try to push your warped view of revolution on them and you'll have a fight on your hands because the gays and lesbians (not the queers, dykes and fags) will stop you.
Brianna, Boston MA
02/06/12 12:49 AM EST
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ummm?
This article was horrible. Please just stop trying to write news or articles about transgender issues/subjects. This is beyond offensive. Only I shall identify myself and no one can tell me otherwise. Who are you to say I should call myself straight? I think you should just call yourself an idiot.
Landon, Toronto Ontario
02/06/12 11:08 AM EST
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"This really offended me"
You state in your article that all passable trans women and men who wish to have a simple life are "Sellouts" in so many words. I think you need to understand that being different is one thing but simply your a people pleaser yourself. you say your a dragqueen but also a trans, you mainly your stating that you jump from one thing but then return to another. Now i dress and i pass 24/7, and i stay in hiding for simple reasons. so i dont get beaten or raped or have hateful things tossed at me. dose this make me a sell out? Dose me wishing to be a mommy, to have a baby with the man i love and not wanting to fight all the time seeing as i have fought enuff in my life from being beaten by horrible people or raped by disgusting hateful people as well make me a sellout? No it makes me cautious and smart about my surroundings. You may wish to fight all the time and thats your life to do what you wish. but when you state that trans women who wish to pass or trans men who wish to pass and be the gender they know they are as a selling out act is nothing more then a hate crime among other trans. You simple need to understand some things before spouting out this stuff as news. you did not stay with your subject instead you drifted off into a whole other thing. and hurt a lot more trans people instead of trying to educate people on what is straight or gay or what ever the only thing you had right is that it should not matter if your gay les etc. but to start tossing out shit to people and seriously offending more then anything...i for one hope you read a book sometime or atleast find yourself instead of jumping on a band wagon for some fight you know nothing serious about.....also trans and transvestite are fully opposite things. a drag queen is one who gets a hardon off of wearing others cloths or, or someone who dose shows and performances. i dont consider it trans, i consider trans a person who wishs to be the gender they know they truly are inside. read a boo
nika Blundell, san diego california
02/06/12 2:17 PM EST
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Hate Speech Filled Comments
I can't belive the use of these hate speech filled comments. Do not use the word Cis to refer to anyone. If you expect to be called what you want then don't force a title on anyone else. It is nothing short of hypocritical and derogatory.
Jared, Montreal Quebec
02/06/12 7:18 PM EST
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So Edgy
Wow Sky, you are so edgy and cool. I wonder how you will get by without the dollars of us hard working assimilators. Last year will be the last time my husband and I catch a show at Buddies in Bad Times. We will also be spreading the word, because words have consequences, especially for 60 year old has beens trying to be cutting edge.
TJ, Toronto Ontario
02/07/12 11:01 AM EST
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No Need to Hate Buddies
Sky hasn't been running Buddies since the mid 1990's. No need to hate on that company because of him. He still shows work there. But don't take it out on the hundreds of other artists working there if you don't like him.
CS, Toronto ON
02/08/12 12:01 AM EST
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Nope
Buddies needs to re-think having someone like Sky working there. I am not the one trashing the patrons of the theatre, Sky is doing that. Our money is walking away from Buddies...because words have consequences.
TJ, Toronto Ontario
02/08/12 10:07 AM EST
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thats like...
thats like asking is a hotdog a hamburger?
ANONQUEER, Toronto Ontario
02/14/12 9:44 AM EST
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