Is UWO clamping down on gay sex?
NEWS / Campus police install motion sensors in public washroom
Joseph Couture / National / Thursday, October 21, 2010
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Authorities at the University of Western Ontario may be clamping down on gay sex in so-called public spaces.

Last term a note appeared on gay cruising web site squirt.org – operated by Pink Triangle Press, the same company that publishes Xtra – that one of the two doors in a cruisey washroom on campus had been removed. The posting read that the washroom was no longer as private or safe for sexual encounters as it had been.

A few months later this reporter was approached by an acquaintance who works at the university. The man told me he was questioned by campus police as part of an investigation into gay sex in the men's washrooms at the university. He suspects officers from the London Police Service noticed a high amount of interest on squirt.org by men looking for information on how to find sex at the university.

The man – who asked not be identified for fear of reprisal from his employer – said he told officers there was plenty of sex happening in public spaces among the heterosexual students as well. He said cleaning staff complained regularly about finding used condoms in the stairwells of the library where straight students meet. He said the police did not seem interested in this fact.

Within a week of that conversation, privacy barriers were installed between the urinals in the washroom at Thames Hall. These quaintly named “decency barriers” block men from being able to view or touch each other while using the urinals.

Within the last week, motion detectors were installed directly over the toilet stalls and above and behind the urinals in the same washroom. Green lights flash on the sensors when there is movement; red lights flash when there is not.

Brandon Watson, communications director for physical plant maintenance, told Xtra that physical plant electricians installed the sensors in the washroom, but that he didn’t know the reason for doing so or the sensors’ exact function. He did, however, say they were installed at the request of campus police.

“They must have decided there was some sort of issue in there and that's how they wanted to solve the problem,” says Watson. “They must have decided that bathroom has some sort of issue where it needed to have some sort of sensored lighting,” he continued, but then added that he isn’t sure at all that was the purpose of the detectors.

“We did the work but we're not too sure what the real reason was,” says Watson.

He says that is the only washroom in the building to have such sensors.

Campus police did not respond to either written or phone requests for an interview.

Paul Turner is a counter-surveillance expert who does private contract work for corporations and government agencies. He says the motion detectors may be there for three possible reasons: the sensors may be used to activate cameras placed in the washroom to record illegal activity; they may be used to alert security when someone is in the room; or they may simply be there to turn off the lights when the room is empty.

Turner says although it’s not unprecedented, he thinks it’s unlikely there are cameras inside the washroom. 

“I know of one case where the police installed cameras in a public washroom as an investigative tool to gather evidence of criminal activity,” he says.  That “criminal activity” was gay sex.

Nathalie Des Rosiers, general counsel for the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, says an investigation to determine the nature and function of the sensors would not be inappropriate. She says that if cameras were in use it would be severe breach of privacy to anyone using the washroom. 

“There is an expectation of privacy, an enormous expectation of privacy when using such a facility,” she says.

Des Rosiers says an owner can always install cameras on private property such as the university, but they are required to disclose the surveillance to people entering the space. She says a warrant would likely be obtained from the courts to intercept communications and that she “can't imagine it would not be done without the full knowledge and consent of the university.”

Gary Kinsman is a professor of sociology at Laurentian University in Sudbury and an expert on the history of policing gay sex in Canada.

”First of all, why is gay sex in the washrooms an issue worthy of police involvement?” he asks. “Secondly, it disturbs me that the police are using gay-cruising websites as a tool to investigate the gay community.”

In the past, police used undercover officers to make arrests and posted signs to scare people, say Kinsman, but the redesign of the physical layout of the washroom and the potential use of high-tech surveillance is both “new and alarming.”

Terry Guerriero is a gay lawyer in London, Ontario. He says he has not heard of arrests in washrooms or parks in London over the past few years. But, he says, “it's London,” and it wouldn't be the first time the community was targeted.

Check out video of the new privacy barriers and motion sensors at UWO's Thames Hall washrooms.





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Reader Comments


 
Unnecessary!
Was anyone else's reaction to this just WTF? First of all, I never realized there was such a problem with gay sex on campus. Or even just sex in general. Second, I can't believe campus police is wasting their time as well as physical plant's time (and money) on initiatives like this. They struggle to find money to open or convert gender neutral washrooms or put up more blue emergency poles, but they've got money for things like this! Third, campus police checking cruising sites like Squirt to crack down on this? Really? What decade are we in again? Personally, I'd like some answers from campus police and UWO. In the wake of Pride Week and speakers such as Judy Shepard and Jody Huckaby this seems like such a step back. UWO stop being so secretive about this. If its a serious problem somehow, explain it to us. But then don't go telling me this is exclusive to the LGBT community. Anyone remember that points system a few years back for places where you'd done it on campus? ...
Johnathan Sawicki, London ON
10/22/10 9:51 AM EST
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When will it end
First - public washroom sex bothers me. If my kid needs to use the washroom - he doesn't need to walk into two guys / two girls / a straight pairing having sex! This is no good! If people want to have sex in the bathrooms of a bar - I couldn't care less - at least kids aren't allowed there. But on campus - any age could be in the bathroom at anytime. Second - the hypcrocy of ignoring the straight sex but taking special measure to deal with gay sex is BS and so typical of London. Third - clearly people for a multitude of reasons don't just want to have sex in their bedrooms at home - or can't due to roommates etc... where else do we expect it to happen? I have a solution. We open a straight and gay bathhouse on campus so people have a place to fuck! - that way if my kid or I need to go pee we don't walk into a porno scene when we enter a bathroom?!
Nathan Dawthorne, London ON
10/22/10 4:52 PM EST
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Enough already!
I don't think that sex in washrooms in necessary. University students and staff have options as does the general public. We see it time and again in Malls. People who frequent public washrooms for sex give gays a bad name. They usually leave graffiti and numbers for some hot sex. We all know as well that the cops check out Squirt and Gay.com so you are just asking for a clamp down!
Kyle Kalan, Bath Ontario
10/25/10 7:21 PM EST
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Poutrage!
This obsession with the right to fuck in washrooms is disgusting, amateurish, pouty and stupid. For the love of cock, go home! or at least go into the bushes like normal people. And stop interpreting everything as oppression. I just want to piss in peace, and I'm guessing straight guys do as well. This isn't 1950 where your options are limited. Grow up. If you believe inhaling urine fumes or smelling feces smears or unflushed turds in toilets as "mood enhancement" while you're chewing knob you're deeply mentally ill. Fellatio in a toilet stall is not a fucking human right. Open a newspaper, and discover a real issue to work on. If this is what "queer" issues are about in this day and age, I want NO part of it.
It's fucking 2010, Stop It
10/26/10 10:31 AM EST
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poutrage shmoutrage
Fucking 2010, it's not so much about the "right" to fuck in washrooms as it is about whether or not the police are intruding on the basic civil liberties of all people in the process -- and whether or not they're treating gay public sex *differently* than straight public sex. Video cameras in the washrooms are an invasion of privacy *regardless* of whether you're in there to have sex or just to take a shit. Police secretly monitoring gay cruising websites is an invasion of privacy *regardless* of whether guys are looking for bathroom sex or just a coffee date. And if the police are targeting gay public sex, but doing absolutely nothing about the straight kind, then that's a problem as well. You're free to think people shouldn't be having sex in public spaces -- but typically, crackdowns like this are applied much more against gay men than anybody else.
Craig, Toronto Ontario
10/26/10 4:16 PM EST
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Did I read this right??
"We all know as well that the cops check out Squirt and Gay.com so you are just asking for a clamp down!" Sorry, did I read that right? Can anyone else confirm if this is the case? The idea of cops policing gay websites in 2010 is shocking and outrageous. Why on earth would Canadian police be going on LGBT themed web-sites and targeting our community for law enforcement purposes? The only justification for having a presence on such sites would be to urge gay people to report homophobic attacks etc. Reading the above comment would lead one to think that being gay in Canada is still illegal!! Fine, deal with public sex if it becomes a significant problem but not in a way that seeks out such behaviour or involves targeting gay men through sites that are perfectly legal. I mean gay.com. Come on! On a broader point, Canada has a global reputation for being a very progressive country when it comes to gay issues (legalised gay marriage) but on the other hand you have a far right religious fundamentalist as PM and Toronto has just elected a bigoted and homophobic bufoon as Mayor. Something clearly doesn't add up.
Adam, Dublin Ireland
10/26/10 8:21 PM EST
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Now Really?
I have to say if this is the case that these sensors have been installed in this washroom, why have they not been installed in every washroom on campus? In addition to this, what exactly is the purpose of the sensors and why exactly happens when a green light flashes or a red light. The fact of this disturbs me. If someone is going to the washroom that's a private thing. Having sex in washroom's do happen, but taking measures like this and possibly trying to find ways to catch gay men espically outrages me. Sex in public happens everywhere, not just washrooms in large college and universities. It happens in the gay and straight scene. So why are you targeting this one washroom, if the university wants to crack down on the issue of sex in washrooms then make it public knowledge and install the sensors in every washroom, not just one. The fact that no one knows what these sensors do, bothers me. This is disturbing, and I for one if I am in a washroom don't want to be second guessing myself going to take a leak, that perhaps that big brother is watching me.. that just wrong. I would like to hear the university speak on this and hopefully the public demands an answer.
Rick Renaud, Chatham Ontario
11/02/10 7:54 PM EST
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yah so?
I once brought my 9 year old nephew to the YMCA in downtown Toronto to swim. After swimming we entered the sauna ( before the renovations a few years ago) and walked in on two men engaging in oral sex. How awkward. I have no problem if you want to go out in the woods at night.. or in a gay bar washroom or a sex club. I don't think guys ( or anyone straight or gay) should be getting it on in a public restroom anywhere.
John Alexander, Toronto Ont
12/24/10 7:38 PM EST
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@John Alexander
Speaking of awkward, why would you as a gay man spend time with your nephew that requires you to get naked. Is sharing a sauna with your gay uncle the new Disney Land . My straight brothers spend time with my neices. They do sports that don't require getting naked together.
Eli Clyne, Hamilton Ontario
12/27/10 9:39 AM EST
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UWO is no different than the City of Toronto
I don't think what UWO has done is any different than what the City of Toronto has quietly done since the late 1980s to stop gay sex in certain public spaces. In the 1980s, gay men used to fool around in the bushes at Hanlan's Point, Cawthra Park and the Allen Gardens. The City quietly came in and cut down the bushes. It's a way of stopping public sex without arresting people.
Jake, Toronto Ontario
12/27/10 10:10 AM EST
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Get your self a new cam for Squirt.org
Some public spirited and brave soul should pop open that vent and see what is inside. If there is cam, rip it out and just wait for the police to show up,if they dare or are that stupid, if not go to the press and then hope the UWO campus police charges you with something. That will stop this B.S It will go all the way to supreme court if necessary. Can't lose.
Bill Talbot, Niagara-on-the-Lake Ontario
12/27/10 2:37 PM EST
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Pathetic Comment
@Eli Clyne Using what seems like a perfectly innocent story to conflate homosexuality and paedophilia and trying to infer that gay men are a danger to kids says far more about you and your internalized homophobia than anything else. Unless of course you’re really one of those sad, pathetic creatures who visit gay websites to leave offensive comments. On a more serious issue, I think it is extremely disturbing that police in Canada seem to think that it is appropriate to “monitor” gay websites for the purposes of discovering what they perceive to be criminal activity. An officer was quoted in a recent Xtra story about public sex in Ottawa as saying that the police are “monitoring hits” to a gay website as if it was a criminal offence to access such sites! The various liaison boards really need to start confronting the police about what appears to be blatant profiling of gay men and their perfectly legal online activities. Leaving aside the fact that such police manpower could be better used detecting serious crime (like investigating homophobic hate crimes for example!) it also suggests that the rampant homophobia that has long been associated with Canadian police is alive and kicking. Quite frankly this is the kind of anti-gay police behaviour I’d associate more with the likes of Uganda or Iran than supposedly progressive and gay friendly Canada in 2010.
Adam, Dublin XXX
12/27/10 11:52 PM EST
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Barriers are better than criminal charges
Obviously, UWO wants to stop gay students and gay-curious students from cruising each other and having sex in campus washrooms. Still, installing barriers between the urinals and taking other measures to deter washroom sex is better than arresting the students for public sex. It's not surprising that an institution would want to stop washroom sex on its property - especially if it has received complaints from other users of the washrooms. For example, in 1997, there was a crackdown on public sex in foodcourt washrooms in Bay Street office towers. Those men faced charges. It would have been better if the building owners had instead installed barriers between urinals and taken other measures to deter public sex, rather than subject the men to charges.
Jake, Toronto Ontario
12/28/10 12:14 AM EST
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This is a bad thing?
I don't like it when some loser tries to check out my dick while I'm pissing in a urinal. So would it be a hate crime if I broke his nose? Enough of these stupid stories. No, we don't want to walk in and see people fucking. It's gross. It's not a human right to fuck in the bathroom.
James, Toronto Ontario
12/28/10 9:09 AM EST
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What the....?
Sex in washrooms is illegal, disgusting and gross. Washrooms are for three reasons: Number One, Number Two, and washing your hands. If you want to have sex, do it at home or in a hotel IN PRIVATE. Ditto for parks and other public places. Contrary to popular belief, there are those in the gay community such as myself who feel sex in public places is inappropriate. Case closed, 'nuff said!!
Kieran, Mount Pearl Newfoundland
12/28/10 3:11 PM EST
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Selective Enforcement
@Kieran I think most people in the gay community regard public sex (and certainly bathroom sex) as inappropriate. And personally speaking, I can't think of anything less erotic than getting it on in some dirty loo. But it's the SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT and deliberate targeting of same-sex activity that outrages many of us. The fact that heterosexual public sex acts are rarely if ever prosecuted and usually just laughed off while two men getting it on in public is seen as a major problem worthy of organized police crackdowns. That's an outrageous double standard and clearly suggests that homophobia is the primary motivating factor in police attempts to curb gay sex in public places. It should also be noted that the people who feel the need to resort to parks and rest stops for sex are usually older deeply closeted men leading outwardly heterosexual lives. They don't regard themselves as gay or part of the wider LGBT community so the actions of Ottawa Police in "reaching out" to a gay newspaper like Xtra in an attempt to "get the message out" about stopping public sex appears to be quite cynical and nothing more than simply going through the motions so they can turn around and claim they tried to work with the community after they start making arrests. I don't believe for one second that they don't want to arrest people. Otherwise they wouldn't be monitoring hits to perfectly legal gay websites and gathering the names and photgraphs of users as if it was in the same league as a child porn site! Why aren't they devoting the same resources to tackling outdoor sex by straight people? A quick google search will bring up sites devoted to swinger parties in car parks, fields etc. Why aren't these sites being "monitored"? Where's the crackdown by Canadian police in this area?? Again, a clear double standard is being applied and that should be a cause of outrage to every gay person, regardless of how inappro
Adam, Dublin XXX
12/28/10 10:59 PM EST
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