HIV stigma radiates from behind the bench
ANALYSIS / How a murder conviction in the Aziga case will make everything worse
Sky Gilbert / Toronto / Thursday, January 29, 2009
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In the 1999 Cuerrier decision the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that people who fail to tell their sex partners that they are HIV-positive before having unprotected sex with them could be charged with sexual assault under the Criminal Code.

On Oct 6 of last year the trial of Johnson Aziga began in Hamilton.
As Xtra goes to press the trial is ongoing. Aziga is accused of failing to disclose his HIV-positive status to at least 13 women before having unprotected sex with them. Two of the women reportedly later died of HIV-related cancers. Aziga is charged with one count of first-degree murder in connection with each of their deaths.
He is the first in Canada to face murder charges for HIV nondisclosure and a conviction in his case would have enormous implications for AIDS activists, gay men, women and people of colour.

In a just culture we must carefully differentiate between criminal actions and those that are simply deplorable. If the allegations against Aziga are true, he committed a despicable act. But deception — a choice to lie about (or deny the reality of) your sexual health — is one thing; murder is another thing altogether.

I do not of course mean to minimize the tragedies lived by the poor women who died. It is the moral principles behind the criminalization of HIV that concern me.

(Ken Bosem illustration)
If there is any lesson to be learned from horrible scenarios like those raised in the Aziga case, it is that no one can be counted on to tell the truth about sex. And as much as it may satisfy a deep, obsessive, all-too-human longing for justice it is irresponsible to blame one person for another’s death from disease. We don’t charge those who refuse treatment or counselling for tuberculosis or hepatitis under the Criminal Code. We don’t see sensationalized news accounts or manhunts for those suspected of transmitting syphilis or human papilloma virus. We don’t expect murder or assault charges against any store clerk who knowingly sells cigarettes to children. It would naturally be ridiculous and unjust to do so.

The faulty moral reasoning involved here is not the only issue. The Aziga case has staggering racist, sexist and homophobic implications as well.

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Aziga is Ugandan. In the late ’80s Charles Ssenyonga, another Ugandan, became one of Canada’s first AIDS criminals. He too was accused of knowingly infecting women with HIV. Canadian journalist June Callwood attacked Ssenyonga in her 1995 bestseller, Trial Without End: A Shocking Story of Women and AIDS.


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Among those who have been charged with spreading HIV in Canada there are at least three much-discussed cases involving black men, including well-known Canadian Football League player Trevis Smith.

The fantasy of the black male as AIDS killer and rapist is rooted in a deep-seated North American suspicion that black men are dangerous to white women. This fantasy sells books, newspapers and magazines and it allows some to conclude that, by not disclosing his HIV status, Aziga committed rape.

I say that criminalizing HIV-positive men who fail to disclose to female sex partners only serves to disempower women. If men are to be held entirely responsible for disclosure, it implies that women don’t have complete responsibility for their bodies, choices or sexual health.

What happened to our bodies, our choice? Women are not — under the law or otherwise — passive, mute playthings.

Safer sex is about the liberating notion that all people — male and female, top and bottom — are either responsible to protect themselves by insisting on safer sex or to assume the risk that they may become HIV-positive if they don’t.

Nobody deserves to become HIV-positive but Aziga’s so-called victims could have chosen to insist on the use of condoms.

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For gay men the most compelling argument against the criminalization of HIV is the propensity of those who hate us to use AIDS fear as a weapon against our civil liberties. The rhetoric employed against Aziga is the same used to characterize gay men as dangerous: That promiscuous gay men are filthy purveyors of disease bent on recruiting innocents; morally bankrupt subhumans with no ability to control their disgusting carnal desires. Good and decent people need to draw the line. They must be rooted out and stopped.

Fear and revulsion about gay sex is at the root of that hatred.

McGill University AIDS Centre director Mark Wainberg wrote a striking example of this in his essay, The Virus that Won’t Go Away, in The Globe and Mail last year.

“This issue of nonfidelity is, of course, at the heart of the problem, as exemplified in almost all Western countries by the fact that a majority of new HIV transmissions now occur within gay male populations,” he wrote.

Ridiculous. I called him on his bigotry in a rebuttal piece in The Globe.

“Not all people who get AIDS are libertines, and not all learn redemption,” I wrote. “North American (mainly white and heterosexual) AIDS scientists — somewhat overzealously, I think — analyze lifestyles and collect data about the sex lives of gay men and Africans, meanwhile convincing everyone that their lurid invasions into the privacy of their subjects is about saving lives. But is it merely a coincidence that a transhistorical fear of same-sex desire among males and the Western obsession with colonizing Africa have merged to become a single discourse called The War on AIDS? Even if scientists were to find out conclusively that white heterosexual North Americans are models of monogamy, attempts by crusading colonizers to teach the rest of the world abstinence are historically doomed to failure. Human beings are sexual (which sometimes means promiscuous) and even an evangelical devotion to transforming the aberrant sexualities of mankind will not change that, or the course of this disease. Nonjudgmental, factual information based on conclusive scientific evidence can, has and will.”

“I am among the few in the HIV field who have publicly espoused both same-sex marriage and the right of uninfected gay men to donate blood,” wrote Wainberg in response. “The appropriate noncondescending phrase to characterize my strong language in advocating for safer sex practices among gay men, whom I cherish and respect, is probably ‘tough love.’”

Unfortunately this arrogant paternalism — tough love — is just a short step from persecution of homosexuals for our dangerously randy ways. There was a time in the very recent past when it was perfectly acceptable in Canadian society to treat gay men — for our own good — with chemicals and psychotherapy. There was a time when gay sex was criminal.

Wainberg still holds tight to his position that promiscuity is a villain in the fight against HIV. But even he has come to believe that criminalization is not part of the solution.

In a December 2008 editorial in the journal Retrovirology, Wainberg finally adds his voice to the growing chorus of activists and researchers who recognize that criminalization is ineffective and dangerous.

“We need to recognize that the current criminalization of HIV transmission is not doing any good and, probably acts as a deterrent to HIV testing, thereby, in effect, promoting HIV transmission by people who do not know or don’t want to know that they are infected,” he writes.

But Wainberg doesn’t let go of his misguided view that promiscuity is at the root of the issue.

“How can society resolve this problem, while not, in effect, encouraging sexual promiscuity and risk behaviour?” he writes. 

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 Homophobia unleashed by the criminalization of HIV isn’t the exclusive domain of heterosexuals. Some gay men are deeply frustrated with other gay men who fail to disclose. These days too many upscale fags imagine themselves as good, monogamous gay men and feel no compunction about demonizing bad, promiscuous gay men.

If Aziga is convicted many more gay guys will feel empowered to accuse their ex-partners of aggravated sexual assault. Gay men who do this unwittingly endanger their own civil liberties.

In the face of all this nonsense the AIDS service community has so far been too timid in its objections to criminalization and the charges against Aziga.

“Using the criminal law in this kind of way is not particularly helpful,” Richard Elliott, executive director of the Canadian HIV/AIDS Legal Network, told the Canadian Press after Aziga was charged.

“What we’re questioning is the suitability of using the criminal justice system this way,” said Betty Anne Thomas, then executive director of the Hamilton AIDS Network.

A conviction in the Aziga case will only complicate HIV-prevention efforts and make the things worse for those living with the virus.

I challenge jurists, HIV/AIDS service organizations, HIV/AIDS researchers and everyone who is living with HIV to do the right thing: Condemn the criminalization of HIV in all its forms. Declare unequivocally that it is an approach that does not work and that only perpetuates injustice. Demand that Aziga be acquitted of the charges against him.

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Reader Comments


 
FAQ Flack
Great article from Sky Gilbert. A few parts of the accompanying FAQ are worth second thoughts though. First, the very idea of "deliberate" infection should be challenged except in the tiniest number of sociopaths, because it doesn't really capture what happens when 2 people of different statuses have sex. And anyone who "thinks someone is deliberately spreading HIV" should seriously question how and what they think they know and tread lightly before taking any kind of action. Some people are so worked up about anyone with HIV not disclosing, even if they play totally safe, they take it upon themselves to become a moral arbiter. Unless you were there in someone's bedroom, you don't know what happened. So back off. And the fact is that the dictates of Public Health are even more stict than what the law requires. They demand that all people with HIV disclose under every circumstance no matter if everything they do is completely safe. The impact of disclosure for people with HIV is something easy for other people to take lightly or come up with their own theories about. The reality can be quite different.
Poz Guy, TOronto Ontario
01/29/09 11:29 AM EST
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Of Course
I never disagree with Sky and I certainly don't in this case. I believe it is essential that we all take control of our sexual health and assume that having unprotected sex can result in HIV and a number of other sexually transmitted diseases. We need to own that and take precautions. Making it a criminal matter is appalling and mystifying. I know a number of people who have no idea of their HIV status. There are a number of reasons for that, but chief amongst them, fear. Fear of social consequences, fear of living with it day to day and now, fear of being convicted of murder. Many feel it is better not to know. They are wrong because they need treatment. The criminalization of HIV takes a horrible situation and makes it that much worse. Good for you Sky. Peter Bochove
Peter Bochove, Toronto Ontario
01/29/09 11:56 AM EST
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take the disease spreaders and string them up!
Notice the bait and switch here: "Aziga (male) is accused of failing to disclose his HIV-positive status to at least 13 women" The case involved HETERO contact. "Fear and revulsion about gay sex is at the root of that hatred." It couldn't possibly be fear of DEATH, now could it? Male or female, gay or straight, you deserve to be sentenced for deliberately - or through deliberate negligence - giving your partner a lethal disease. Partner tracking would, sooner or later, be viewed as a "scarlet-letter" punishment.
pn6, Someplace, USA USA
01/29/09 12:18 PM EST
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pn7's Red herring
There is a problem with the focus of people like pn6 on punishing people living with HIV who know they have it. It's that the vast majority of HIV is spread "non-deliberately" by people who don't know they have it. And the solution is more testing, more education and more community norms about the value of negative and positive folks all doing their best to avoid transmission. Not the wrong arm of the law. Read a great article by Nicholas Little that points how only 5% of HIV transmission is tracked to people who know their status -- and that includes everything: accidents, incidences where disclosure did take place, etc. It points out clearly how much of this anger is misdirected. http://www.xtra.ca/public/Ottawa/How_many_will_you_infect_in_09-6096.aspx
Shawn, Toronto ON
01/29/09 12:59 PM EST
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Correction
Apologies for my error above. The correct point was that in a given year, 95% of people who know they have HIV do not pass it on to anyone else, and only 5% do.
Shawn, Toronto ON
01/29/09 1:02 PM EST
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Criminal versus deplorable
I agree that there is a difference between criminal intent and just deplorable action. I also agree that everyone should be ultimately responsible for their own health, sexual or otherwise. I don't agree that simply failing to disclose HIV status before any kind of sex should be considered a criminal act. But I find it hard to sympathize with HIV-positive people who complain that being forced to disclose every time cuts down on the pool of potential sex partners. Too bad! This article talks a lot about the responsibilities of HIV-negative people, and virtually ignores the responsibilities of HIV-positive people. For a criminal case to be appropriate, there must be deliberate intent to spread HIV - a simple hook-up with a stranger in which the HIV-positive person doesn't disclose but takes steps to ensure his partner's safety (ie. using a condom, bottoming rather than topping, etc.) then I agree with the writer that the HIV-positive person shouldn't be guilty of any crime. If however, the HIV-positive person is deliberately having unsafe sex with total disregard for the health of his partner(s), then I agree there is criminal action here and needs to be treated that way. The cases you cite were of men who were deliberately trying to spread the disease. They are not innocent. If someone knows they are HIV-positive and disregards his/her responsibilities by sleeping around with multiple partners, refusing to wear condoms, then I agree there is criminal responsibility there and the law should reflect that. But I agree that criminalizing all non-disclosure cases is wrong.
Matt, Toronto Ontario
01/29/09 1:30 PM EST
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Red herring?
"There is a problem with the focus of people like pn6 on punishing people living with HIV who know they have it." He knew he had it. He knew he could infect her. He knew there was a risk, and the jerk did it anyway. He should be criminally liable. That is not a red herring - that was the case that the original author used to make his point. That is not misdirected anger. He chose to murder those women. kudos to Matt for his response.
pn6, someplace, USA USA
01/29/09 2:20 PM EST
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clarification
He chose to murder those women, or at least to disregard their lives.
pn6, anytown, USA USA
01/29/09 2:22 PM EST
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THAT IS NOT THE REASON
"But I find it hard to sympathize with HIV-positive people who complain that being forced to disclose every time cuts down on the pool of potential sex partners. Too bad!" --- I am so sick of hearing this idea that I *have* to say something. This is not the reason people don't disclose. The reason we don't disclose is because you can't control gossip and everyone around you can treat you differently when they know, from the workplace to the bar to family. It changes your life for the worse and that is not fair. A lot of negative folks say "that's your opportunity to educate," but that's easy for them to say. I know many, many guys who regret how open they have been about their status. It doesn't make stigma vanish. It makes life harder. Please believe me when I say that the risk of disclosure DOES NOT have to do with being greedy for sex.
Calling BS, Toronto ON
01/29/09 2:31 PM EST
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FEAR OF STIGMA ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH
HIV KILLS!!! HIV KILLS!!! HIV KILLS!!! This is not a cold!!! Aziga is a rapist!! I am ashamed that this is what the gay rights movement has degenerated to. Defending a rapist!! Everyone who knows that they are infected has the legal and moral obligation to inform those with whom they CHOOSE to engage in sexual activities with. It is a matter of life and death!!! No mater what the reason is, by deliberately withholding essential information from their partners regarding their status they are committing sexual assault (RAPE) and potentially condemning the victim to a slow and painful death. Stop blaming the victims!! It's not their fault when someone lies to them!!!
Wake the hell up!, Small Town Canada
01/30/09 2:52 AM EST
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What about people who don't want to get tested?
If someone who has had ANY "unsafe" sex decides that he/she doesn't want to get tested, isn't that the equivalent of "non-disclosure"? Why should someone who goes to get tested and learns he/she is HIV+ be held criminally responsible while someone who "chooses" NOT to get tested can't be held criminally responsible? I don't feel that it is fair to make a person disclose his/her HIV+ status to every sexual partner with the risks that disclosing could entail. Either make everyone get an annual HIV test or the burden of reponsibility is always on the HIV+ individual. If everyone were tested then the results could be kept "confidential" until such a time that it may be necessary to determine if a person was negligent in his/her reponsibility to disclose. This may seem "draconian", but it would make a level playing field AND it would let everyone know his/her HIV status and possibly even help save lives. If someone is "forced" to have unprotected sex without his/her consent, then this would be "rape" and a just case for attempted murder, if the aggressor is HIV+. Comments to the contrary, above, are just naive, which leads to a false sense of security.
Canadian Mo, Vancouver BC
01/30/09 5:39 AM EST
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Ed's note
Canadian Mo: Thanks for your comment. Actually deciding not to get tested doesn't protect a person from the possibility of criminal charges. In the 2003 Williams case, a man had unprotected sex with his female partner and may have unknowingly passed the virus to her before he tested HIV-positive but continued to have unprotected sex with her after he learned he was positive. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled that a person who fails to disclose to his sex partners that he has tested HIV-positive may be charged with attempted aggravated assault, even if his partner was already positive when they had unprotected sex. Another possibility raised by the court at the time, but not decided for sure, is that a person might be convicted of attempted aggravated assault for failing to disclose his HIV status, even if he hasn't actually tested positive himself. All the prosecution would have to show is that a person acted "recklessly." Anyone who might have any "significant risk" of being HIV-positive, the court said, might be charged with attempted aggravated assault if they fail to disclose that there is a possibility he may be HIV-positive.
Matt Mills, Toronto Ont
01/30/09 8:24 AM EST
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Why just HIV?
Why does the discussion always revolve around HIV, when it comes to criminalizing illness? Why is this the only illness we criminalize? Flu kills a lot of people, is easier to transmit, and it's easily preventable with the shot. Why aren't we throwing flu-spreaders in prison? And before you say it's difficult to trace, so is HIV. You can't prove to me how anybody got their HIV.
Randy, Windsor Ontario
01/30/09 9:20 AM EST
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Note from an HIV social scientist
Sky, not all social scientists working on HIV are quite as bigoted as you might imagine. Some of us are even gay, and some of us work very hard to demonstrate why criminal prosecutions for the transmission of HIV are a bad idea when it comes to the bigger picture of HIV stigma and public health. Anyone who is interested can see Sigma Research's new report on gay men's views on prosecutions in the UK at: http://www.sigmaresearch.org.uk/go.php/reports/report2009a/
Catherine Dodds, London UK
01/30/09 11:27 AM EST
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Murder charges wrong, but not staggeringly racist.
I strongly agree with Sky that the increasing criminalization of HIV is a negative development. and that charging someone with "murder" for the alleged transmission of HIV is an absurd overreach by the Crown. But I fail to see how the leap was made from the Aziga case to this sweeping Gibertian condemnation: "The Aziga case has staggering racist, sexist and homophobic implications as well....The fantasy of the black male as AIDS killer and rapist is rooted in a deep-seated North American suspicion that black men are dangerous to white women. This fantasy sells books, newspapers and magazines and it allows some to conclude that, by not disclosing his HIV status, Aziga committed rape." This negative racist stereotype died a well deserved death decades ago in North America except in some Alabama/Mississippi backwaters. The recent election by a clear majority of Americans of an Afro-American to be President of the United States shows how far we have come from those few who believe in such absurd racist fantasies. As far as I can see in this case there is no evidence that Canadian authorities (police and Crown) were motivated by racism or sexism or homophobia. As a reporter Sky Gilbert should stay with the facts and not construct a bogeyman. And the facts show that criminalizing HIV/AIDS (and even accusing some men of murder) is counter-productive in the fight against AIDS proliferation in our society. But hurling charges of racism, sexism and homophobia in relation to this case is an editorial stretch. Aside from that I loved the reportage.
james Dubro, toronto Ontario
01/30/09 11:51 AM EST
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Gotta disagree
When laws were established (and the perameters for Murder 1), there were diseases and realities yet unseen. But we need to sometimes redefine those perameters in light of what's happening today. Knowingly passing on HIV should absolutely be a crime in my opinion! Murder is a crime not because it is "deplorable", but because you can't simply trust that people won't do it. Those who do and are caught are punished. Spreading a deadly virus knowingly is no different.
Matthew, New York US
01/30/09 11:52 AM EST
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From a Youth
HIV Criminalization? That has got to the be stupidest thing I have ever heard. I completely understand that yes this man DID and DOES have a legal obligation to inform his sexual partners about his status, however, they knowingly participated in unprotected sex, knowing, with all the sexual education in the world, and all of the advertisements regarding sexual health, that they could have contracted the HIV virus. For them to do so was irresponsible, and fatal, on their behalf Its plan and simple: don't be a fool, wrap your tool. If mister right says no to a condom, he's not mister right.
MacKenzie Cross, Coquitlam BC
01/30/09 6:15 PM EST
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closet poz guy
I'm a closet H.I.V poz guy. Its crap like this that keeps me in the closet from the rest of the world about my status. 8 people in my life know about my status... its the stigma and this kind of stuff keeps me from coming out... Now, I care to much about myself and about my sexual partners (even if I don't know their first name) than to play without a rubber. I say... ...own up to your choices you make in life! I have! I played without rubbers and I became infected. The person who infected me (whom I know) didn't say anything to me about his status. When I found out I was poz, I didn't go running to the police. I was an adult who made a bad choice and I accept it. I played Russian roulette and lost! Plain and simple!
Mind Your Own Business, Toronto Ontario
01/30/09 7:46 PM EST
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Not even close to murder one or two in my opinion
Matthew you cover a lot of territory for murder one when you say "spreading a deadly virus knowingly" is included in its definition. True if one poisoned a person intentionally and he/she dies that is murder. But is having consensual sex murder if one is HIV positive and either does not know it or knows it and has sex anyway? If it is many thousands could be charged just in the GTA. It is irresponsible, counter-productive, and close to useless to use murder statutes to contain a sexually transmitted disease. How would you police such a draconian law? Sex police? Sky is right to strongly warn us of the many reasons charging people with AIDS with murder who have sex without disclosure is totally absurd and absolutely the wrong way for us to go as a society. I certainly hope prosecutors in the US and Canada don't start interpreting the murder statutes like Matthew. And to be fair, to date they have not gone that route in either country. It would be tragic if they did. But the Aziga case is a test case on premeditated murder charges and in my (hopeful) view it will fail.
james Dubro, toronto ontario
01/31/09 11:40 AM EST
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Pro Criminization
Maybe no one has had this thought yet - so what if you do choose to have protected sex and the condom breaks. Your sexual partner is HIV +, you have asked and were lied to. A condom isn't the end all be all - there is NO for sure way to not contract it from someone else. I'm sure may people would turn down a sexual encounter if they knew their potential sex partner has HIV. It should be criminalized. This is absolutely ridiculous - it most definitely is murder. We don't criminalize the knowing spread of Syphilis, and the common cold because they are diseases that are not always equated to death. I am truly disgusted that the community is willing to fight this charge. This has nothing to do with sexual orientation or race. I don't care if you are purple and you knowingly transmitting HIV - you are murdering someone. I suppose I cannot be objective to those who have contracted the disease - I don't know what is like to like with the stigma. But how dare you drag others into it - if they choose to still have sex (protected or unprotected) that's their choice - at least they are informed.TH
Paulie, Toronto Ontario
02/01/09 12:37 PM EST
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Here's what you do
"Maybe no one has had this thought yet - so what if you do choose to have protected sex and the condom breaks." See your doctor or visit the hospital. If you are not certain of the HIV status of your sexual partners and you experience an accident, see your doctor or visit a hospital within 36 hours. You can receive treatment that greatly reduces the risk of potential infection. Enough with the blame. Let's get rational.
Solution, Toronto ONT
02/01/09 6:24 PM EST
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Yeah right...
So... all of you people who are defending that rapist Aziga would be fine if your partners LIED about their status to you and infected you with HIV. HIV being a virus that WILL KILL YOU at some point? Don't any of you have any empathy for the victims of these reckless SELFISH people? The victims did not do anything wrong! They have the right to legal recourse when someone deliberately or negligently endangers their lives!! What is wrong is an HIV+ person deliberatly witholding their status so they can have sex anyway or be "free of stigma". Well you know what? Those flimsy reasons do not give HIV+ people the right to caluously disregard another person's life. Condoms do fail and highly doubt that the guy who wrote the "closet poz guy" uses them during oral sex. Have fun sexually assaulting people and giving them HIV. I'm sure you're happy!
Gay 23 year old man, Edmonton Alberta
02/02/09 4:23 PM EST
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What would be more useful?
It's great your editors care about criminalization and taking a stand on it, though I don't think Xtra's position and strategy and thinking are exactly right, and I don't think Sky Gilbert's arguments are the most persuasive ones. To me, the comments here reflect how Xtra has missed the mark a bit. What they show is there's a huge gulf in opinion between many negative and positive guys about all the questions surrounding sero-discordant sex, from disclosure to risk to informed consent to criminalization. The most useful way to garner widerspread anti-criminalization support is to try and bridge that gap. Both sides need to understand where the other is coming from. Poz guys have an edge there because they have been in both sets of shoes. Neg guys rarely consider the poz perspective -- and a real risk is neg guys deciding for themselves what the correct take on criminalization is - whatever that take may be -- without listening to poz guys (for comparison, I am white and don't think my personal opinions about race are definitive). The Johnson Aziga case is a really tricky starting point for arguing a case against criminalization. I admire the guts of that approach, but the essay itself lacks the nuance and specific points required to successfully make that argument. Lots of obvious points (or at least ones obvious to many poz folks) are missing from the analysis.
Rodger, Toronto ON
02/03/09 4:06 PM EST
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Ed's note
Rodger: Many thanks for your comment. I'd like to chat with you, on or off the record. Would you be willing to contact me?matt.mills@xtra.ca. Many thanks.
Matt Mills, Toronto Ont
02/04/09 10:29 AM EST
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handwaving in lieu of rational analysis
i have no idea why anyone could think this piece is more than a bunch of agitprop lines. i wonder whether the racism charge isn't actually libelous, same for the homophobia stuff. if they're homophobic, if anything, they'd encourage the spread of hiv among us. it's that simple. i've done a lengthy review piece on the criminalisation question in a the current issue of the international journal of law in context(as well as various other pieces). feel free to google me if you're interested in a completely different take on this issue. cheerz udo schuklenk
udo schuklenk, kingston on
02/04/09 8:01 PM EST
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Sorry; I Disagree
Obviously you feel very passionate about this subject. As a whole I disagree with just about everything. This is an example of what's wrong with world wide society. We don't believe that we should be held responsible for our actions. My daughter was infected by her husband, she is dying of AIDS. What about rape victims, shouldn't the raper have to face judgment? Knowing you have HIV and not telling the person you're having unprotected sex with is a modern day version of murder. Anyone male or female should have to answer for their murderous behavior.
Gail Bell, Seattle Washingtongai
02/07/09 12:06 AM EST
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Gay 23 year old man, Edmonton Alberta
Don't presume to know what I do and don't do behind closed doors! For you're information (not that I need to explain my sexual habits) I don't get blow jobs! I also suggest little boy that you learn more about H.I.V before going ahead and opening you're mouth on things you clearly know nothing about! Its exactly this kind of moronic thinking that keeps people closed off about their status.
Mind Your Own Business, Toronto Ontario
02/07/09 9:23 PM EST
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On Criminalization of HIV and inequalities
I absolutely agree with the thrust of Sky's analysis and I deplore the criminal case law that is now accumulating around HIV transmission. Perhaps learning from a rich HIV & queer activist past can help us think and act through this latest crisis in sexual regulation where the stakes are so high. In the 1980s When the state completely absconded from the field through entrenched homophobia queers took it upon themselves to help foster a sense of community responsibility for safer sex. This community based action of protecting and learning from ourselves instilled a deep sense of camaraderie and solidarity for acknowledging and celebrating our pleasures. I am one of the first generation of queers to have benefited from this grass-roots social and political action, having 'come of age' in the late 80s. Now I find that younger queers' experience of safer sex is coming at them from public health and community ASO's that, although they do crucial and important work, removes the participatory quality to learning and solidarity that is badly needed in today's market-friendly and branded gay culture. As a more arch individualism has settled into queer life, and an ethic of the market and consumerism is normalized, this overtakes solidarity and collective political consciousness, thus making individual solutions that sometimes take the form of criminal law more attractive to some. Persisting inequalities aggravate the field, and I do agree with Sky (contra my good friend Jim Dubro) that racism is a factor in general in these cases of criminalization as well. Yet, it is not only in overt acts of racism that we must look for inequalities at work, but persisting forms of institutionalized racism that not only makes black men into uber threats but that isolate women of colour and immigrant women from social services and community actions that can empower their individual abilities to negotiate health care decisions on their own terms. There is so much work to do.
Rob Teixeira, Toronto ON
02/09/09 11:59 AM EST
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Put them all on an Island
Don't agree with the writer on almost anything. Anybody who doesn't change their sexual pattern and in fact gets worse, with the aim to infect others should be put on an island with others of the same where they all probably met each other in the same bathhouse sometime, where they are excluded from the rest of the world (like the OZ you people call the "village"), except on an Island, they can't knowingly and purposefully attempt to murder some unsuspecting fuck. On an Island they can only kill off each other slowly in their own pleasure hell.
Ben Dover, London Ontario
02/12/09 7:46 PM EST
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Stupid agruments
It's quite bizarre; the arguments that are made in favor of people walking about deliberately poisoning people that were foolish enough to trust someone. These walking disease factories are knowingly and with purpose going about with hope of infecting people. It is there intent to take as many with them as they can. The victim is not to blame and committed no crime in trusting someone. The criminal is the one going around with a loaded weapon, shooting it off at someone who will take it. When I was a kid, a condom was something you wore so you didn't get a girl pregnant. Now you have to wear a body condom to date a guy. Times have been ruined by promiscuity and it's getting worse because of people who think you should be allowed to go about slowly killing people. Comparing AIDS/HIV infection to picking up the common cold is ridiculous. What an ass. PERSONALLY, IF I EVER CONTRACTED HIV/AIDS, I DON'T THINK I COULD EVER GET A HARD-ON AGAIN. I would be totally disgusted with myself because I would know I evidently did it with a dirty. Unlike most who contract it, I would likely know the first and last name of the person that gave it to me. A "villager" is VERY unlikely able to know where he got it because he doesn't know the identity of the persons he did it with two weeks ago. No, it's not the victim that's making it worse, it's the murderers that are going about taking as many victims with it that they can. Up until 1973, homosexuality was considered a brain disorder in the general compendium of psychiatric diagnostics. (A mental illness). By watching many gays and reading the above article and some of the comments, I believe that it should be put back in the books as a mental illness. It is clear, many gays just don't think straight because they are incapable or unwilling. They are deniers of truth.
Mike Johnston, no really, Toronoto Ontario
02/12/09 8:07 PM EST
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Cognitive Dissonance, Gay Men and HIV
Cognitive Dissonance: "This is the feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time..... "Dissonance is most powerful when it is about our self-image. Feelings of foolishness, immorality and so on (including internal projections during decision-making) are dissonance in action. If an action has been completed and cannot be undone, then the after-the-fact dissonance compels us to change our beliefs. If beliefs are moved, then the dissonance appears during decision-making, forcing us to take actions we would not have taken before. I'm not sure where to start. I can't reconcile the current thinking about disclosure and HIV with sense, let alone with the way it has been institutionalized. In recent news and Editorial pieces in Xtra I've recently read victims of sexual assault "so-called victims." Are you kidding me? When did we start blaming victims either genuine or self-perceived? To anyone who read the Margaret Wente article "Do the right thing : disclose" I am Peter, one of the people quoted in her article. I find it beyond belief that we've gotten to the point in our community where bad behavior is not only tolerated but encouraged. It seems to me that the only reason the wider community is interested in policing our sexual behavior is because we've done a really bad idea of doing it ourselves. We can agree that sex can be a dangerous proposition and people make their own decisions; I would however argue that we are all entitled to make informed decisions. Although we have been told for years to assume that all of our partners are HIV-positive, in practice that is not the same thing as knowing that someone is HIV-positive. I don't know how this happened; the way we have created messages and viewpoints that serve only to justify our worst behavior. We all make mistakes and we all have feelings, self-esteem and ideas about who we are and they can all be far too easil
Peter, Toronto ON
02/12/09 10:15 PM EST
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Read the Criminal Code
Those who have commented on the unfairness of criminal sanctions in this context ought to read the Criminal Code, s. 222 (homicide) and s. 219 (criminal negligence). It is extremely unlikely that the Crown would bring charges against someone who did not *know* that he was HIV positive, unless that person was already *well aware* that he had begun to experience some of the illnesses associated with AIDS. It is appropriate to charge a person with manslaughter -- please note, not murder but manslaughter -- under part 5 of s. 222, if the person shows reckless disregard for the lives of others (again, see s. 219). It is simply implausible to say that a person who is *aware* of his HIV positive status, and who lies about it to others in order to have unprotected sex with them, is not showing reckless disregard for their lives. Please note, we are talking about someone who *knows* his status or who knows he is experiencing illnesses associated with AIDS. If that's not reckless disregard for the lives of others, what is? Or are we to say: Yes, well, admittedly it's criminal conduct according to the Code, but the stigma that results from the prosecution is worse. On that view, is the stigma also worse when the Crown prosecutes someone who belongs to a misogynistic religious group, for beating his wife (not intending to kill her) to the point where she died? So that members of that sect also do not deserve to be prosecuted criminally? Or is it that it's worse for me, if I have to disclose it to others, because the person I tell might tell other people, and so having evaluated harm to myself and harm to others, it's fine for me to give more weight to the reputational harm to myself -- and *therefore* it's wrong the Crown to use this provision of the Code to prosecute me -- because after all I have already weighed the options and made a rational choice?
Paul, Toronto ON
03/15/09 6:11 PM EST
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Shame on Canada
I think Canadians should really be ashamed of their country for allowing the prosecution of hiv positive people. Since when it is responsability of one person to protect the other? How arrogant does one have to be to expect this sort of given right to engange in unprotected sex without consequences? Wake up people, if you make a bad decision you will pay the consequences, simple as that. Let me tell you that you will not achieve anything by prosecuting hiv positive people becase this will only increase the stigma and you will be actually making the epidemic bigger and worse. You know it is very easy to get around a pathetic law like this, all people have to do is to not get tested so they are not aware of their hiv status and they can have as much unprotected sex as they like without any legal consequences.
AB, Melbourne Victoria
04/11/09 8:05 AM EST
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Shame on Canada
I think Canadians should really be ashamed of their country for allowing the prosecution of hiv positive people. Since when it is responsability of one person to protect the other? How arrogant does one have to be to expect this sort of given right to engange in unprotected sex without consequences? Wake up people, if you make a bad decision you will pay the consequences, simple as that. Let me tell you that you will not achieve anything by prosecuting hiv positive people becase this will only increase the stigma and you will be actually making the epidemic bigger and worse. You know it is very easy to get around a pathetic law like this, all people have to do is to not get tested so they are not aware of their hiv status and they can have as much unprotected sex as they like without any legal consequences.
AB, Melbourne Victoria
04/11/09 8:05 AM EST
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