Girl on girl action
LOOSE END
Ivan Coyote / Vancouver / Thursday, September 23, 2010
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I did a show recently with a folky friend of mine.

It was his CD release party, and it was a bit of a different crowd for me. Only a smattering of dykes. I am more than all right with this; in fact, I welcome the opportunity to tell stories to all kinds of people.

It is always fascinating for me to see how my words impact when delivered outside of the queer urban comfort zone. In some ways, for me, this is really a test of the material’s true merit, a measure of a story’s ability to speak to things common and human in all of us.

I have been heart-struck by a trucker with a giant belt buckle telling me the story of his own grandmother after a show. I am continually amazed at how art and music have the ability to carry me across bridges I would otherwise never have the courage to step onto. I often count my blessings for the people and the places writing and storytelling have taken me to.

Anyway, last week I found myself stacking chairs and cleaning up after the show at one o’clock in the morning with a whole bunch of folks I had never met, and a smattering of people I didn’t know very well.

I turned to pick up an abandoned purse and that is when I saw them. Two straight women I had been talking to earlier, now sans boyfriends, full-on tongue-kissing each other, one with her back pressed up against the now quiet stage, the other’s hips grinding into hers, all four hands moving, askew on various ass cheeks and bits of bare skin where shirts had been pulled back. The keyboard player and the drummer were watching nonchalantly as they coiled cables and zipped up road cases.

Hot, right?

I felt a bit of a lurch in my jeans and my mouth went dry.

Maybe my mind has been permanently tainted by pornography. Perhaps the patriarchy has twisted my libido to respond to this kind of heterosexual girl-on-girl action. Whatever the reason, I must admit I like it when the straight girls have one too many beers and get to groping each other after a gig. If this makes me bad, well then, I am terrible.

Maybe I need to revisit my assumptions. Maybe they are not all that straight. Maybe they do this kind of thing all the time when I am not around to witness it. Maybe I should have minded my own business and looked away. But I could not and did not.

There was something about that kiss, something about how it was public, in front of me and the boys from the band. Something about how that kiss didn’t include the boys and me, yet we were not excluded either, that made it hot. For me, at least. I didn’t process it after with the band, so I really don’t know.

I remember the first time I saw two butch men kiss each other. It was 1990, and I was almost 21 years old.

I was walking down Beatty St, outside of the gaybourhood, in the middle of a sunny afternoon. Two big muscle–bound dudes in faded Levis and tight T-shirts were going at it right there in the street, leaning into each other in a doorway. One guy had his hand slipped into his lover’s back pocket, and I could see the muscles in his forearm flexing as he squeezed the guy’s ass cheek and pulled their two bodies closer together.

I remember that kiss because it was my first. I had seen plenty of women kissing in the dark at women-only night at the Lotus Club on Friday nights, or at the Gandydancer, but this was the first out in the open in broad daylight man-on-man action I had ever seen in real life.

What struck me was the sameness of them. Two butch men. It seemed like the gayest thing I could think of. It was so powerful it froze my feet to the sidewalk. I had to tear myself away, afraid they would notice me standing there and staring.

Of course they never even looked up. They were busy.

It was the sexiest thing I had ever laid my eyes on, and it remains on my list still today.

Lately when I get a couple of scotches in me, I have this experiment I like to do. I like to find two hot femmes and see if I can talk them into kissing in front of me.

I usually barter. I find a butch friend of mine and I offer to neck with my butch buddy for them if they will return the favour. It has worked more than a couple of times, and it works for me on so many levels.

In addition to the surprising pleasure of necking with another butch, I get to see two hot femmes tangle tongues, right in front of us. Red fingernails tracing a scented neck, a dress just short enough to catch a flash of ass cheek when one leans into the other, two colours of lipstick mixing on a Kleenex or a cigarette butt. The curls of one tangled for a split second into the curls of the other. Laughing and batting of eyelashes.

Hot, right? And again, for me, it is in part because of the sameness of the two of them. Not that any two femmes are alike; that is not at all what I mean.

It is, I think for me, the queerness of it all. The Adam and Steve of it all. All those hot possibilities. All the straight world’s assumptions of what lesbians look like, and what they do in bed together somehow turned upside down, little legs kicking in the air.

Does finding this so hot make me bad? I certainly hope so.

Loose End appears in every other issue of Xtra.

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I guess I'm different
I won't argue the sexiness of two women making out at all. And this seems like a harmless enough encounter; I've been the unwitting witness to a steamy kiss and have felt my knees weaken a little because of it. But I guess it feels like a double standard. Getting two femmes to make out for third party enjoyment smacks of complaints I've heard from femme friends, especially since they usually get the request from straight men. So does it make it okay when it comes from a butch? I don't know the answer to that. This line - "All the straight world’s assumptions of what lesbians look like, and what they do in bed together somehow turned upside down" - seems a little contradictory. Two femmes making out seems like it's exactly what the straight world fantasizes about when it comes to lesbians. They might think of butches when it comes to the lesbian stereotype because we're easy to identify, but I'd wager to say the majority of what the straight world thinks about lesbian sex is, as you put it, girl on girl. Thanks for writing this. It got me thinking and, based on the fact that I hijacked your comments, I may need to go ahead and blog about it as well.
G, SLC UT
10/02/10 7:35 PM EST
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One Femme's Perspective
I'm going to risk my feminist card and say that it doesn't make you bad, sweets, it makes you a dude. At least in this aspect of your butchness, this is something I consider a very masculine characteristic peeking through. In my experience, both biologically male and transmasculine folks tend to be more... visually stimulated. So I am not remotely surprised that my butch counterparts find it hot to see same on same action. I think that both the fact that you are butch, and the fact that you also find other varieties, beyond just femme-on-femme, hot as well, probably makes it more about the queer and less about the stereotypical straight guy wanting to watch nonsense. (I'm high femme, and I find it hot, too!) Thanks for the food for thought.
Jolie, Eastern NM
10/02/10 9:17 PM EST
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If it's about queering the norm...
then talk about it in those terms. I definitely agree that seeing same sex couples letting loose a little is hot. Men, women, butches, femmes, queens, whatever, it's all a little hot because it's queering the norm, not because it's femme on femme. Get turned on by whatever you want, that's your prerogative; just don't use me because of a label you assign me.
Ashley, Long Island NY
10/02/10 9:44 PM EST
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Beware the boyish good looks
I'm a femme fan of your writing and have twice had the joy of seeing you read in the Bay Area. However, my first thought, when I got to the end of this column, was "it's time for Ivan to give up the scotch". Is wanting to see two girls kiss assuming the patriarchy? No, but using your boyish good looks and winsome charm to coerce women into sexual behavior for your own pleasure is definitely assuming a piece of it. It's more of an argyle-clad piece of it than the gold-chain-wearing-old-hairy-guy piece if it, but it's a piece, just the same. This makes me want to say "ick," the way I say "ick" when I see video footage of frat boys yelling "show us your tits" during spring break Bacchanalia. It's all just fun and hijinks, right? Nope, and we all know it's not. Don't get me wrong, I believe that certain sex acts, practiced regularly, help made the world more beautifully queer. This just didn't speak to me that way. It did the opposite.
Geek Porn Girl, Northern California USA
10/09/10 12:12 AM EST
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Sheesh, Ivan
You can't seem to win for winning, can you. I tried this piece on some of the students in my queer cultures course, and they found it incisive in getting them to think outside their heterosexuality just a tiny bit, always a good thing. Not your intention, I guess, but this actually works on several levels -- I'll be cloying and say your work always does -- and thanks for it.
Douglass St.Christian, Stratford Ontario
10/14/10 6:19 AM EST
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as always
I can never help how my words are interpreted, but sometimes I get a little discouraged with how far away from where my heart is at my words seem to land at times. I would never "coerce" any woman into performing a sex act for me. And none of the femmes I love are all that coerce-able. And I am also not into labeling anyone with a name that they might not relate to. The incident I was writing about happened between a very dear friend of mine and my partner. They both absolutely self identify as femme, and are both vocal and proud of who they are. They are both strong, kick ass women who wouldn't and don't take shit from anyone, ever. And yes, I talked them into kissing each other, and they were consenting adults who kissed in front of me, after I consensually engaged in a little tangling of the tongues with a butch friend of mine. Everybody was into it, everyone had fun, and that was it. And it was fucking hot. I see nothing in common with this incident (okay, maybe it has happened a couple of times) and frat boys yelling at young women to show them their tits. If that is what you read, then that is what you read, but that is not what happened, nor was it anything like that in my heart or mind. And I don't think that two powerful, smart, sexy, ass-kicking self-identifying femmes doing what they want together for pleasure (theirs and mine) is anything at all like what the patriarchy thinks of when they imagine two women having sex. Two real three-dimensional femmes getting off on kissing in front of two butches not afraid to admit that they find their buddy hot enough to neck with? I think this is hot, and revolutionary, and not seen enough in the straight world, or the queer one for that matter. But that is just me. If you want to twist that into some argyle wearing male gaze thing you find uncomfortable, then that is up to you. I will try not to let it tarnish my beautiful, hot, sexy memory of what really happened.
Ivan Coyote, Vancouver BC
10/19/10 5:33 AM EST
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You say bad, I say fun.
I spoke at a university sociology class this summer regarding sexuality and kink, which was awesome because instead of the usual here's how you can add a little slap to your tickle I got asked about things like gender theory, heteronormativity, and how I can reconcile being a feminist and a fan of sexual power exchange. Tough question. Truth is, I don't know - but nothing else feels as right. When I start to theorize about systemic patriarchy and question the root of my actions are... well, I geek out and no one gets laid. Same thing happened when I learnt a new fisting technique this summer. When we finished talking, my "instructor" was turned on, and I was itching to draw diagrams. What good comes from that? What good comes from getting so wrap up in our theories that we can't enjoy things any more? And suddenly it got all sorts of clear for me. I'm pro consenting adults enjoying sex, and sexual things as they see fit. Full stop. I don't think this makes you a bad person...just a bit of a perv; who I'd like to go drinking with.
Heather, Toronto ON
10/23/10 2:19 AM EST
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