Criminalization of herpes signals a turn for the worse
FREE AGENT / Man arrested and charged with aggravated sexual assault
Shawn Syms / National / Thursday, April 01, 2010
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First they came after people with HIV. Cops and courts may be starting to cast the net far wider now. If you have herpes, watch out.

The use of criminal law to police and punish sexual behaviour has been on the rise in the past year, with several high-profile cases where HIV-positive people faced charges based on allegations of "exposure without disclosure" — accused of having potentially risky sex with others without revealing their HIV status. Such claims are essentially impossible to scientifically prove, and no HIV need be transmitted in order for an allegation to lead to an arrest. A range of experts have pointed out that this dangerous trend does little to protect anyone. And it appears things may be about to take a turn for the worse.

Last month, Ottawa media outlets broke the news that a 33-year-old master corporal in the Canadian army was arrested in February after allegedly having sex with female partners without informing them that he had herpes. Military police claim the sex acts took place as far back as 2004. And to make things look even more unscrupulous, a report in the Ottawa Sun on March 18 announced the soldier has now also been accused of possessing child pornography.

For all anyone knows, it may be a photo downloaded from the internet of a teen who appeared to be an adult. It would be no surprise to learn police had sifted through the accused's computer — after all, they may have snooped through his email to round up as many past sex partners as they could find. The public may never know the full truth, but this coverage sends a pretty clear message: someone who has a sexually transmissible infection (STI) and has sex with multiple partners is an intrinsically bad person, so it's no wonder they have "kiddie porn."

Despite the lack of details, the newspapers had no compunction about publicly identifying the accused by publishing his name. This is a form of "trial by media," says sex-criminalization expert Edwin Bernard, author of a forthcoming book on criminal sex charges. He points in particular to the Ottawa Sun headline, "Child porn charge for herpes spreader": "This suggests the accused is already guilty, when in the Canadian legal system, people are assumed innocent until proven guilty."

The charges — six counts of aggravated sexual assault and six counts of criminal negligence causing bodily harm — are based on events that took place in Ontario. What does the provincial government have to say about herpes? "Herpes is a nuisance condition in adults," according to the website of the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long Term Care, which adds that "most media stories about herpes are exaggerated." Aggravated sexual assault is defined in the Criminal Code as something that "wounds, maims, disfigures or endangers the life of the complainant." When applied to a common STI like herpes, this could be considered an exaggeration.

Criminal charges for STIs beyond HIV are not completely unprecedented, in Canada or internationally. There has been at least one successful case involving hepatitis B in Sweden, a hep C prosecution in Scotland and cases involving gonorrhea and hep B in England and Wales. And last month, a man was jailed in PEI for a hep B exposure conviction.

What are the implications of exposure-without-disclosure charges expanding from the realm of HIV to other STIs such as herpes? In the case of HIV, the problematic nature of these cases is obvious. HIV is comparatively difficult to transmit, and it's completely possible and in fact commonplace for people with HIV to responsibly engage in protected/negligible-risk sex without having to tell anyone their personal medical information. Sex with a person with HIV is not intrinsically dangerous, but because of the vast amount of misinformation, discrimination and stigma surrounding HIV, people who disclose their status may be exposed to serious personal risk. And there is an increasing medical consensus that many HIV-positive people on successful medical treatment may not even be capable of transmitting HIV, even in instances of unprotected sex.

But herpes is different. First, it's far more common than HIV — which means many more people could potentially face charges. There were roughly 65,000 people with HIV across Canada in 2008, according to the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC). There are no official Canadian statistics on the number of people with herpes, because unlike other STIs such as gonorrhea, hepatitis C and syphilis, it isn't even considered a reportable condition by public-health authorities. But the World Health Organization estimates that herpes affects more than 500 million people around the world. Some US figures say the numbers there may be as many as one in four women and one in five men.

And herpes is much easier to transmit. As the College of Family Physicians of Canada notes on its website, "Genital herpes is spread easily. The virus from an infected person can enter your body by passing through a break in your skin or through the tender skin of your mouth, penis or vagina, urinary tract opening, cervix or anus. Herpes is most easily spread when blisters or sores can be seen. But it can be spread at anytime, even when there aren't any symptoms."

So if you have an STI that's not hard to pass on, shouldn't you be as careful as you can? Yes, says legal expert Bernard. "Ethically, whenever someone is aware that they have an infectious disease, of course they have a responsibility to keep it to themselves." Disclosure is only one of the ways to achieve that though, he says.

"But the personal ethics of disclosing an STI — whether it be herpes or HIV — is a totally separate issue from criminalizing non-disclosure," he adds. "We may not like it when a partner exposes us to an STI and may morally object, but I would argue that complaining to the police is even more of an ethical wrong than not disclosing in the first place. This leads to a cycle of blame, media reports and further complaints that can only ultimately harm public health."

It remains to be seen if increased prosecutions for herpes and other common STIs are the next wave of the Tories' law-and-order agenda. But given how the entire line of thinking behind this punitive approach relies upon exploiting and reproducing sexual shame, we can probably safely assume there's no risk of locking up people for spreading influenza, which kills far more people than herpes (which is generally not fatal except in infants).

When having an STI becomes criminalized, it discourages disclosure, because once someone is identified they become a potential target, regardless of how responsible they may be. As the focus shifts from HIV to herpes, we're no longer talking about tens of thousands of Canadians at risk of persecution, we're talking about millions. Despite the Tories' lust for "super-jails," there just aren't enough cells for all the possible lockups.

Imagine a world where the majority of people do everything they can to protect one another's sexual health and prevent disease transmission, where sexual education is universal and guilt and fear are eradicated. Do you think prosecutions like these are the route to a world like that? Somehow, I don't.




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Lovely
So I assume that if I catch the flu, take the metro, and one of my fellow passengers catches the flu from my breath or the bar I touched, I assaulted them and will be criminally liable for that, since after all I didn't disclose that I had the flu? Or is it only STDs we're going to have a moral panic about?
Ace, Montreal QC
04/01/10 4:08 PM EST
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Military law
umm... This is not a comparable case. The military police do not have the authority to investigate civilians living outside of a military base. Also, as military when we sign a contract and take our oath we also subject ourselves to more laws and rules besides the civilian ones, which we are still obliged to follow. The question in this case is, "did this Mcpl break military law?" Military law not being applicable to the average civilian. Also, I may be wrong but I don't think cases involving military courts and military law are used as precedents in the civilian courts.
Gay in the army, .... Ontario
04/01/10 7:37 PM EST
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Actually...
To "Gay in the army," thanks for your comment. Despite the involvement of military police, these are standard Criminal Code of Canada charges, not a separate set of rules applied to officers. And as I mention, there has been another similar case in Canada that did not involve a soldier (see http://www.cbc.ca/canada/prince-edward-island/story/2010/03/03/pei-hepatitis-women-sexual-assault.html). But your observations are still relevant, I believe. To further quote legal expert Edwin Bernard, who I interviewed for this article, "In this case, because the accused is a member of the Canadian military he may well be held to a higher moral standard than the average citizen. He may also be held to a higher standard of sexual health. Not coincidentally, the US jurisdiction with the most HIV-related prosecutions is the US military. In fact, some of the first ever cases took place in military courts in 1987."
Shawn Syms, Toronto ON
04/01/10 8:11 PM EST
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An alternate sex-worker viewpoint
Xtra readers might be interested to read this viewpoint from a very outspoken sex worker who insists that criminalizing alleged exposure-without-disclosure is good, mandates disclosure for all people especially sex workers, argues that fighting criminalization serves to delegitimize the sex-work-rights movement, and says that if sex workers were to follow her lead, they would leave the business if they had an STI. http://bit.ly/realprincess
Shawn, Toronto ON
04/02/10 9:35 AM EST
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Criminalization of HPV
In Iowa recently we've had a case where a young woman was awarded over $1,000,000 settlement because she believed she was infected with HPV by a male sex partner. I can't believe, considering the ubiquitous nature of this infection (some 70% infection rate with adults) that this jury award has stood--but the case finally was settled. I think this is off the rails.
Donald Baxter, Iowa City Iowa
04/02/10 12:44 PM EST
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View from a promiscuous man
I have sex with lots of men. I'm negative. And I expect Positive guys to disclose their status to me, so we can negotiate what we're going to do, or not do. If I was infected by someone who lied....I'd call the police. We are responsible to each other...our brothers keepers. To steal into someone's life and infect them with a deadly disease is simply not acceptable. Positive guys have a burden of responsibility. A sad fact but the truth.
Doug, Vancouver BC
04/03/10 12:04 AM EST
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Doug ?????
We do not have to wait for anyone to tell us if the are HIV or anything else ! You are responsible for your own body, ASSUME instead of negociating. You can negociate the price of your funeral but not your life! People will not always be upfront be proactive not naive.
Louis, Vancouver BC
04/03/10 2:23 PM EST
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Slippery Slope, Tory Style
Let me first state that if a person has a communicable disease of any sort, he/she should inform any sex partner or any individual he/she comes in transmissible contact with, to avoid infection of said person or partner. This is for public health and medical reasons. Now, in this case, I feel the police and the courts are overreaching their authority just a tad. Nobody should have their name released in the media if they are only charged with a crime. This is called right to privacy. The only time a name should be released is when an individual is legally convicted, and/or if the individual poses a threat to public safety (e.g. serial killer on the loose, etc.). It will be interesting to see how the Tory dictatorship in Ottawa responds to this case.
Kieran Earles, Mount Pearl Newfoundland
04/03/10 4:05 PM EST
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If only I'd known...
that it would go this far. Then I would have sued the condom company after the one we were using broke and infected me with H.I.V. Product liability should count for something, shouldn't it?
Trevor Taylor, Abbotsford British Columbia
04/03/10 6:26 PM EST
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But Kieran
"Let me first state that if a person has a communicable disease of any sort, he/she should inform any sex partner or any individual he/she comes in transmissible contact with, to avoid infection of said person or partner." Here's the problem with this line of thinking -- when people look at things this way, they are usually not talking about realistic possibility of transmission and or scientific data on infectiousness. The fact is that different STIs all have ways to avoid transmission that don't always involve disclosure. HIV is the easiest example because we have known about safer sex to prevent HIV transmission for over 2 decades. And herpes is not so different -- sorry to be so blunt but if you have herpes of the mouth and don't want to transmit it, have sex that doesn't involve your mouth. Same goes for the ass or cunt (and I mean this words in affirming ways). If you really believe that disclosure is required, where does it end? You could say if someone has HIV or hep C, they shouldn't be allowed to walk down the street without people knowing. What if they fall and scrape their knee -- someone else could be exposed to their blood! People could argue that anyone should have the right to know because they might come into contact with that blood. We need to move away from thinking that the solution is to have the information that would allow us to quarantine or avoid the person with the STI. The solution should be everyone assuming responsibility, not just looking to blame others.
David, Toronto ontario
04/04/10 1:55 PM EST
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Wait a minute, neg guys with senses of entitlement
Doug from BC, I really hope you stay negative as long as possible and hopefully forever. I worry about you though, because expecting guys who know they are poz to tell you so you can have special negotiations just with them is NOT the best way to protect yourself. Most poz people who know their status pose very little real risk to you. It's people who have recently gotten HIV and don't know it who are most infectious. And those people might have gotten it from each other precisely because they have a different set of rules for known poz people but play looser with the rules if they imagine their safer because they play with someone and both guys think they are neg. Sad but true.
Just a minute Doug, Toronto ON
04/04/10 2:44 PM EST
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You didn't fall on it.
There are two people responsible if someone contracts HIV - the infected person AND the person who becomes infected. I think that if someone goes to the police on discovering that the person they were having unsafe sex with was poz,they should also be charged with a new crime we'll call "Endangering the public health system". Basically, they are voluntarily submitting themselves to the risk and are just as liable for the consequences as the poz guy. And do NOT tell me that it should be different if someone is poz or not. Forcing poz guys who are less likely to be infectious to disclose every time they have sex is not based on science. Only poz guys truly know their status at any given moment. How are we to treat "neg" guys who bareback like crazy and honestly thought they were neg but it turns out were recently infected and highly infectious? They get off scot-free under Doug's scenario, even if they infect someone, but the poz guy who is undetectable, couldn't infect someone if he tried, and doesn't actually infect the neg guy - he goes to jail. We are NOT our brothers' keepers. We are our OWN keepers and those who do not should not be allowed to extend the harm by calling the police. What we're actually all talking about is having bareback anal sex - the essential route of HIV transmission. The only fair and just way to deal with this issue is to punish all people who have bareback sex not just the poz guys. But I suspect that our holier-than-thou neg-for-now fuckbuddies might object to that. It would mean that they would have to take responsibility for their own behaviour and lose a way of feeling righteous and superior - right Doug?
You didn't fall on it, Vancouver BC
04/05/10 5:50 PM EST
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protect yourself
I always figure whomever I'm with quite possibly has HIV or some other STI so I always protect myself, as has been pointed out not everyone who is poz knows it so I don't feel comfortable relying on what anyone says, I'm also drug free so able to think more clearly about the situation, meth is a big contributor to rising HIV rates. In my opinion the only time criminal charges should be an option is if a poz guy knew he was poz and lied about his status especially if in a long term monogamous relationship where there is some expectation of the truth being told, I know of a case where that happened and it was the only case where I thought charges were warranted though none were laid since the "victim" didn't want to. I don't think its reasonable to trust a guy you're never going to see again and simple non-disclosure doesn't imply any sort of malice on the part of the poz guy nor does it take away the other's responsibility to protect themselves. People need to take responsibility for their own health and stop relying on the courts, besides laying charges seems to be more about revenge than health.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
04/05/10 6:37 PM EST
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Goes without saying...
I find it upsetting that we should even have a 2-way discussion about such a topic. If someone who is HIV positive or have any form of communicable disease it should go without saying they should inform any potential partner as to their status and then decide where both parties go from there. Call me irrational but if somebody engages in any form of sexual act with a person knowing they themselves are infected with an STD and do not disclose it, i think rightly so somebody somewhere has to intervene, be it criminal charges or whatever needs to be done to put a stop to it. Just my opinion.....
mick, dublin leinster
04/05/10 10:43 PM EST
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Safety, community, unity -- how do we get there?
Like Mick from Dublin, I'm disappointed about aspects of the circular conversation about HIV and disclosure -- but for different reasons. In this article, I made a point to take it for granted that criminalizing HIV non-disclosure is wrong -- I summarized the reasons and moved on, and there are a ton of resources out there available to back this up. (Clearly, there remains a need for a massive interactive and engaged community education program on the topic though.) Discussions about whether people see any difference between HIV and other STIs in terms of either interpersonal disclosure or the law are interesting though. And what's *really* interesting is to hear people talk about what would be better than locking up people with STIs. If we want to create a world where ALL people are supported in being as healthy as possible, and feel safe sharing intimacy with one another in a context of mutual respect, what might that look like?
Shawn Syms, Toronto ON
04/06/10 7:51 AM EST
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Communicating Illness Does Cause Suffering
There are people who purposely engage in risky sex and even purposely infect others. I have been a victim of such unethical behaviour. The condom I put on him, he purposely took off behind my back --and he was HIV+. I know that most people are good and ethical...most of the time... But a momentary lapse in ethical judgement --from drugs or alcohol-- still can cause misfortune to someone if they are given any disease. Yes everyone should protect themselves, but that is only half the social equation which holds society together. The other half of the equation is that we are responsible for each other. It is important to call attention to this idea. Knowingly infecting someone with an illness--through sex or otherwise, should NOT be considered a criminal offense --unless it causes disfigurement, disability or death. Infecting others should be regulated by fines. If a person infects another, they should be required to pay for medical costs and financial compensation for physical, emotional and social suffering, caused by the disease they knowingly communicate. Costs should be calculated on a sliding scale of severity of each disease. Society should also be compensated through compulsory community work. Anyone caught engaging in anonymous barebacking in public places should be prosecuted and given sentences of community work. Any places of business which allow or do not prevent anonymous barebacking, should be given hefty fines --not for badness or shame-- only to help pay for medical costs to society.
The Larger Issue, Toronto Ontario
04/07/10 6:19 PM EST
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Intentional infection
There's a growing consensus that truly **intentional** infection ought to be punishable. Most of the court cases aren't about that though.
Yes, Toronto on
04/08/10 12:19 PM EST
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Intentional or Negligent Infection = Suffering
Intentional or Negligent Infection Causes Equal Suffering and therefore needs to be addresses. There are financial, social and emotional costs. The infector should compensate those he/she infects.
The Larger Issue, Toronto ONT
04/08/10 2:39 PM EST
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He didn't tell me and I didn't ask.
It was obvious the guy knew he was positive because I inherited a strain already resistant to three meds. When People Are Looking to Get Laid and no one is asking and no one is telling you can't look for blame when somethign goes wrong. You had a choice to make, you chose not to ask thereby cutting your self off from the information you need to make a decision. Be responsible and be incontrol of your own life. It's that simple. Now of course I believe that people SHOULD tell but not everyone's a nice guy. It was you who took the risk by sleping around and not asking the right questions so man up and take a little responsibility for your choices. If someone INTENTIONALY lies, then it gets blurry. Play safely, know the risks and be prepared to take the consequences.
anon, Toronto Ontario
04/09/10 9:50 AM EST
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Reality? Check
The comments on this article indicate there is both a lot of confusion and a lot of emotion to these topics. Which means ongoing discussion is important. Kudos to Xtra for their focus on criminalization and STIs. Please keep it up. A few seeming nitpicks about the comments that are actually important. First, there is no relationship between how common or rare a strain of HIV is and whether or not the person is aware they are positive. Second, unprotected anal sex in and of itself does not lead to HIV transmission, HIV has to be present (whether or not someone knows it) -- which indicates that seeing "barebacking" in general as the boogeyman here, or something that should de facto be punished or sanctioned is a mistake. Last, I just really think we should be cautious about demonizing people who know they have HIV in general -- that includes assuming they are all either reckless or don't care if they infect others, or that they should pay for "mistakes" they only played a partial role in. It's not very popular to say that people with STIs are human and may have occasional lapses in judgment, but it needs to be said. The blame game gets us nowhere. We should focus instead of decreasing stigma and increasing responsibility -- on ALL sides of the equation.
Reality check, Toronto Ontario
04/09/10 10:45 AM EST
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follow-up point
To be clear, when I said "there is no relationship between how common or rare a strain of HIV is and whether or not the person is aware they are positive", I also meant to discuss how drug-resistant a strain is. There is no relationship between how drug-resistant a strain of HIV is and the person's knowledge about their status. Anyone can catch a drug-resistant strain of HIV from someone else who possess that strain, regardless of whether either person knows their status. A strain being drug-resistant doesn't mean the person is on meds themselves or knows they are infected.
RC, Toronto On
04/09/10 10:58 AM EST
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INFECTION + SEX = DRINKING + DRIVING
INFECTION+SEX = DRINKING+DRIVING. If you were drinking & driving and had an accident, anyone in your car who became disabled/disfigured/killed as a result, can only blame him/her self for not asking you beforehand if you had been drinking. Right ? NOT !! -- One can get an infection only from someone who has it. Therefore the one who has it and knows it, has a greater responsibility to not spread it, even by accident or by lapse of judgement. -- If someone infects another with Herpes, HIV, Hepatitis, etc. he/she has to compensate the other for financial losses and suffering. -- I stopped having sex 5years ago because it is the only way I know of protecting myself from the veiled deceptions and distracting rhetoric of the HIV lobbyists who try to gloss over the fact, that any infection can be communicable. -- *** Change the focus from blaming to compensating.***
Change the focus from blaming to compensating., toronto ONT
04/09/10 1:57 PM EST
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Criminal Charges for Herpes ???
RE: Change the focus from blaming to compensating., toronto ONT "If someone infects another with Herpes, HIV, Hepatitis, etc. he/she has to compensate the other for financial losses and suffering." Could you please provide some detail on the "financial losses and suffering" that someone might face as result of contracting Herpes? As someone who has had HSV1 (herpes simplex virus 1) for a few years now... I maybe get myself a $50 bottle of Valtrex once sometimes twice in a year... you really want to bring in criminal courts to make someone pay someone else $100 per year? I'm sure the cost of the court case itself would end up costing the government several times what that person might have to pay in medication for the rest of their life. I would rather see the government using that money to essentially make the medication free for everyone that needs it... but maybe I'm just a socialist crazy. As for suffering... again speaking from my own personal experience... when I first contracted HSV1 I didn't know what it was and wasn't sure what to do about it... so the first time I got symptoms I didn't know enough to take Valtrex and so my body had to fight back the symptoms on its own... so yeah that was a pretty awful week... did it stop me from going to work... no... did it stop me from visiting my friend in another city for a couple days... no. I think the idea of charging someone criminally for most likely transmitting herpes without even knowing is 100% INSANE. The Good News About the Bad New Herpes: Everything You Need to Know Page 21 "Who's infected? As of this writing about 56 percent of the people in the United States over the age of fourteen have HSV1 infection (Xu et al. 2006)." ... the reference is to an article from the Journal of the American Medical Association btw.
J. Williams, Toronto ON
04/10/10 12:31 PM EST
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INFECTION+SEX = DRINKING+DRIVING
NO CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR HERPES or HIV --JUST FINANCIAL COMPENSATION. Whether it is accident or negligence, if an unsuspecting person is infected, with Herpes, HIV, Hepatitis, etc., the infector should compensate them, or compensate society, for financial losses, through fines or through community work. -- If ethics cannot be taught in school, it should somehow be regulated (possibly in SmallClaimsCourt). J. Williams, Toronto writes "56 percent of the people in the United States have HSV1 infection." So what? 65,000 Canadians have HIV, x millions have Hepatitis or chlamidia... Does this mean it's OK to engage in sex without care about the other person because so many people already have it? NOT !! Quoting statistics about how many people are already afflicted with a disease is distracting rhetoric which tries to gloss over the problem, rather than to solve the problem. Whether it is Herpes or HIV infection, etc. it causes some form of distress and financial cost. Some types of infections cause more damage than others. If ethics cannot be taught in school, it should somehow be regulated.
Change the focus from blaming to compensating, Toronto ONT
04/10/10 5:03 PM EST
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Gov $ should be used for herpes education + meds.
RE: Change the focus from blaming to compensating, Toronto ONT "NO CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR HERPES or HIV --JUST FINANCIAL COMPENSATION." Are you suggesting we use a government bureaucracy just for collecting herpes fines and payments? Again... at least when it comes to herpes... the government would probably end up blowing several times what they collect and distribute with fines.
J. Williams, Toronto ON
04/10/10 7:26 PM EST
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HIV + Herpes are not the same thing.
RE: Change the focus from blaming to compensating, Toronto ONT "Whether it is accident or negligence, if an unsuspecting person is infected, with Herpes, HIV, Hepatitis, etc., the infector should compensate them, or compensate society, for financial losses, through fines or through community work." The point I was trying to make earlier was that at least in the case of Herpes... the virus is EXTREMELY widespread... 56% of adults isn't a number to laugh at... when was the last time a government had anywhere near that kind of support? When you compare Herpes to HIV... well other than the fact that they're both sexually transmitted... otherwise they're very different... Herpes does not have the long term physical impact on your life like HIV does. In fact from my experience so far... the ONLY real problem with Herpes is the stigma attached to it... having to take pills 3 times per day for 5 days once or twice per year is really not a big deal... stressing about trying to figure out how to tell people when there's so much misinformation and ignorance out there is a much bigger issue.
J. Williams, Toronto ON
04/10/10 7:50 PM EST
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Infecting someone with any disease is immoral
Herpes, HIV, Hepatitis, Chlamydia, TB., etc. -- infecting someone with any disease is immoral. You can't talk that away by trying to debunk anyone's proposal for a solution. We are all responsible for each other as fellow human beings along with the "protect yourself" rhetoric. Any distracting arguments and sophistry to relieve guilt or blame from those who are infected with anything perpetuates ongoing infections and suffering. Talking about it publicly already helps. Silence = death. "Informed choice" (disclosure) helps to protect the uninfected. There are many solutions to preventing various infections whatever the mode of transmission. What is your solution?
Distraction & Sophistry are not solutions, Toronto ONT
04/11/10 3:57 PM EST
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Simple solutions rarely solve much.
RE: Distraction & Sophistry are not solutions, Toronto ONT... "Herpes, HIV, Hepatitis, Chlamydia, TB., etc. -- infecting someone with any disease is immoral. You can't talk that away by trying to debunk anyone's proposal for a solution."... Really so because it's horrible when someone is infected with something it's somehow wrong to question poorly thought out solutions like the one you've proposed? All I'm saying is the various STIs aren't identical and to treat them as such is just stupid. What about the fact that "almost 90 percent of people who already have HSV 2 don't know they're infected (Leone et al. 2004)!"... so if someone has never been diagnosed and they end up infecting someone when no symptoms are present... still think it's fair to charge them with something? What is my solution... I believe I already described what I feel would be an appropriate government response to Herpes... a LOT more money for public awareness campaigns... and maybe some money to reduce the cost of medications.
J. Williams, Toronto ON
04/11/10 5:47 PM EST
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Forging ahead
Great to see that the conversation is moving toward solutions. We need nothing short of a revolution in terms of how we look at sexual health and sexual responsibility. That means changing how public health, the cops and the media operate, as well as how we treat each other (ALL of us, not just people diagnosed with STIs). This other article, though it focuses on HIV, talks about things that would be better than the criminal law when it comes to addressing STIs. http://bit.ly/c3SAeu
Forging ahead, Toronto on
04/12/10 8:14 AM EST
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Move the focus from blame to education/treatment
Interesting discussion of this article on ManhuntCares, including a guy who got herpes because he let other guys bareback him, and blames the other guy. All this shows we really need to move the focus when it comes to herpes from blame and to education and treatment. http://www.manhuntcares.com/2010/04/what-do-you-think-criminalization-of-herpes-exposure/#comments
Manhunt, Boston MA
04/13/10 4:22 PM EST
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Combination Therapy: Education + Punishment
If Public education has not worked well enough to spread infections, then we have to try legal punishment as well. Combination Therapy: Education + Punishment might be a more effective deterrent. -- Good people lie and have lapses of judgement especially when they take drugs and/or alcohol. Some are ignorant, others just don't care. They all need to be held accountable for their actions. -- Disease activists use lengthy theories, sophistry and pseudo-research to gloss over the fact that diseases cause misery and financial loss. Enough rhetoric. -- A combination of medical research, cheaper medication, public education, community outreach, and legal deterrents, might work better to slow infections. Different cultures, religious customs around the world, and various levels of education, need a variety of methods to control or change any behaviour.
Good People Lie, Toronto ONT
04/13/10 5:08 PM EST
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complexity, compassion, sensitivity
This Pega Ren column offers a great herpes reality check: http://www.xtra.ca/public/Vancouver/The_realities_of_herpes-2324.aspx
Reality check, Toronto Ontario
04/15/10 11:02 AM EST
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Hmmn...
If Canadian HIV organizations such as the Legal Clinic HALCO in Toronto and their fellow organizational supporters seemingly encourage the criminalization of HIV (no doubt with clarifications and rationalizations) all bets are off and it's open season on all! Or at least that what it appears to me.
tim, toronto on
04/26/10 10:50 AM EST
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Universal Education?
This is a curious thing, sure you can say "What if I am prosecuted for having sex?" Sure, you can ask "What if I am deemed a deviant?" And sure you can complain "But this is my freedom!" But what about the people who are purposely infected, what about if you, for one lapse of judgment were infected with syphilis, AIDS, Herpies? I am more than certain you'd be singing a different tune, one of "Justice!" Or "I can't believe someone could be such a disgustingly sick serial killer!" And universally available sexual education? What world are you living in? Some magical world where education is to the book, where teachers actually bother teaching the curriculum? A Curriculum that is piss poor as is, and basically teaches "If you don't have sex, you don't get diseases!" Our education has nothing to do with warning of sick, cynical evil bastards who TARGET people who are trusting. This people need to be locked up, these people need to be put in jail, these people need to be seen as the serial killers they are. This is just like arresting someone for possessing paraphernalia of meth, oh sure there's no true harm of owning things that could do it, and if you prosecute them then you are opening up a whole world of prosecuting people who have paraphernalia such as To Kill a Mocking Bird! We might as well allow people to have illegal weapons, we shouldn't prosecute based on intent! Remember, confidentiality and not offending certain groups is much more important than removing murderers and psychopaths from the streets. Its all the same story, its fine, until it happens to me.
Kody, Edmonton Alberta
04/28/10 1:53 PM EST
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Look at what's actually happening
Kody, most authorities who are against HIV criminalization do acknowledge that there are small number of cases involving sociopathic individuals who deliberately and successfully transmit HIV who should be prosecuted. The vast majority of prosecutions of people with HIV internationally and in Canada though do NOT fit that profile.
Another reality check, Toronto on
05/04/10 9:19 PM EST
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