Conservative crime agenda moves forward
PARLIAMENT HILL / Minimum sentences expensive, ineffective, damaging, say critics
Dale Smith / National / Tuesday, December 21, 2010
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Bill S-10, which seeks to impose mandatory minimum sentences for a number of drugs crimes, is a step closer to becoming law, but Opposition members say it embodies an expensive and ineffective law-and-order, tough-on-crime approach.

The bill proposes a minimum six-month jail sentence for anyone caught growing six or more marijuana plants and 18 months for anyone caught producing hash or edibles like brownies or cookies.

“Our concern first of all is that we don’t believe that these mandatory minimum sentences that the government is inserting in all of their crime bills work,” says Senator James Cowan, leader of the opposition in the Senate. “We think they’re wrong-headed, they suit the Conservatives’ ideology, but all of the evidence is completely contrary to it.”

In a Dec 9 open letter to Conservative Justice Minister Rob Nicholson, Cowan wrote about how Nicholson spoke out against mandatory minimum sentences when he was vice-chair of a parliamentary committee in 1988, saying they were ineffective and cost-prohibitive.

“We’ve been trying to raise the issue that this is a wrong-headed approach, and that we need to be smart on crime, not just tough on crime,” Cowan says. “Of course we don’t have the numbers now, so we can’t change the legislation, but we can propose amendments, we can raise the issues.”

The bill is now on its way to the Commons, and the Opposition critics are preparing strategies for how best to deal with it.

“There’s a strong public appetite to defeat this bill,” says NDP MP Libby Davies, who serves as the critic on drug issues. “Our job when it comes into the House of Commons is to convince the Liberals that they need to develop a backbone on this bill, and they need to look at the evidence and figure out that mandatory minimum sentencing for drug crimes doesn’t work.

“We have an opportunity here like we’ve done with C-49, the anti-human smuggling bill, to call their bluff, and the three opposition parties have said no go, this is a bad bill. I hope we can do the same on S-10.”

Liberal justice critic Marlene Jennings says she is open to killing the bill at second reading but says the Liberals are looking at how the bill fits with other Conservative crime legislation.

“The sections that deal with organized crime and with grow-ops seem to be spot-on,” says Jennings. “The problem seems to be with their minimum mandatory sentences.”

Jennings says, for example, that someone convicted under S-10 for passing a joint around at a party and for growing marijuana plants for personal use could face a mandatory minimum jail term. But under the provisions of another Conservative crime bill, C-23B, which aims to amend the Pardons legislation, the same person could, if convicted on three drugs charges, earn a permanent criminal record.

“They’re not part of organized crime, they’re not part of a grow-op; it’s a person who’s maybe growing 10 plants of marijuana for their own use, and under medical marijuana, they’re allowed up to 20 plants,” says Jennings. “There’s a real disconnect, and I’m starting to reach out to various stakeholders, public health officials who deal with addiction problems. They’re coming out saying this is not a good thing, that the bill is a bad bill.”

Stakeholder groups opposed to S-10 include the Canadian HIV/AIDS Legal Network. In October, it sent a letter to the Senate committee studying the bill, which was signed by Conservative Senator Pierre Claude Nolin, who has previously voted against his party on the bill.

Legal Network executive director Richard Elliott says prisoners have limited access to harm-reduction services like needle exchange programs, which increases the risk of HIV and hepatitis C infection.

“You’re actually taking a population that is already vulnerable; you’re making it worse,” says Elliott. “You’re not actually achieving any benefit, and you’re spending a lot of money to incarcerate people who ultimately need health services primarily.”

“There’s the financial cost of significantly increasing the number of people who would be subject to criminal prosecution and specifically incarceration, and that is a cost that is going to be disproportionately borne by provincial governments, but also that the costs would mean more people with addictions incarcerated, which means more people not getting easy access to addictions services that are needed.”

Cowan, who represents Nova Scotia, raised the issue of provincial costs for minimum sentencing after seeing the parliamentary budget officer’s report on the estimated costs of a previous crime bill. Smaller provinces may be without the means to house more prisoners in an already overloaded system.

“There’s no federal support for provincial jails,” says Cowan. “We want to do everything we can to keep people safe, nobody argues about that, but there’s a smart way to do it, and there’s a dumb way to do it, and I think these guys are going about it in a dumb way.”


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Reader Comments


 
Cons on crime
If you want to see how the Conservatives plan to handle crime look no further than the G20. These guys are building prisons for crimes that aren't being committed. Who do you think it is they plan on locking up?
Tony, Vancouver BC
12/29/10 11:45 AM EST
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@Tony
and your basing this on what evidence? Just because a bunch of anti-establishment at the G20 were causing problems and destroying private property is a crime under Canadian Law. The government is only doing this because the majority of Canadians are demanding the government to get tougher on crime.
Peter From, Toronto Ontario
12/29/10 5:24 PM EST
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18 months ?
I am waiting with my favorite iron cast pan for the first cop/rcmp to bust me while I bake cookies in my kitchen.As usual the new laws again demonstrate the lack of vision from the conservatives.Will the next step be: snitch on the neighbours ?
Louis, Vancouver BC
12/29/10 8:12 PM EST
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war on drugs !
So Canadians taxpayers are being punished for indulging ? No mention on how they will tackle the organized crime.Let us grow our pot and spend your time at stopping labs and hard drugs peddlers instead. Too funny for a minority governement to be able to take us back to the darkness and they are so sneaky !
Paul Tools, Vancouver BC
12/29/10 8:24 PM EST
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re: Peter From
Actually Peter most Canadians support not only the decriminalization of pot but also its legalization. Check out these links for polling data http://frankdiscussion.netfirms.com/info_statistics.html and http://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2010/03/canadians-support-decriminalization-of-minor-pot-possession-and-lean-to-not-reintroducing-death-penalty-march-18-2010/ This particular bill, S-10, is very bad policy that will greatly benefit organized criminals and gangs. By targeting those who grow their own pot with such harsh sentences many will figure its not worth the risk and resort to buying pot on the street where it usually comes from organized criminals and gangs who have been shown time after time to be more than willing to accept the risks. The increased demand for pot from such sources will be of great financial benefit to the sort of criminals who create much greater problems in society than growing and smoking pot. besides which pot is one of the least dangerous drugs, its level of harm is somewhere around that of coffee or sugar, no one has ever died from pot use, and pot users do not create other social problems like alcohol, crack, and heroin users do. Likely people growing pot for their own medical needs will be caught up in this bad policy if it gets passed if they don't have the proper licencing. The only ones who support harsher penalties for pot are the minority of Canadians who tend to support the Harper Cons. Plus removing judicial discretion from sentencing is going to lead to a lack of justice in our penal system. Its long past time we got smart about crime instead of tough on crime, if the tough on crime and minimum sentences worked the US would be the lowest crime jurisdiction in the world since they were early adopters of this policy that Harper is promoting, instead the US has a massive crime rate compared to Canada and has more of its population in prison than any other country on earth, including Iran,China and Russia.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
12/29/10 10:43 PM EST
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do something about it!
If you oppose this ridiculous bill S-10 that would change pot related crimes from minor to major crimes and would impose automatic mandatory minimum sentences on people growing small amounts of pot for their own personal use then do something about it by emailing your MP and telling them to oppose Bill S-10. If enough opposition MPs know that a large number of Canadians want policies that are smart on crime instead of tough on crime this bill can be defeated and chronically ill people who grow their own pot for medicine won't be sent to jail for not having the proper paperwork and our country won't have to slash social programs to pay for increased prisons and incarceration costs. Here are some web sites that have organized their opposition to the Cons ideologically driven crime bills http://www.cssdp.org/our-campaigns/no-mandatory-minimums/264-bills10update-hoc and http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2010/05/06/Bill-S-10-Madatory-Minimum-Sentences-Marijuana There are others as well, just google it.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
12/29/10 10:51 PM EST
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well
Couldn't you all just...ya know...not... grow/smoke pot? Wouldn't that be a lot easier? Most of you don't NEED it, so why should others support you for it? It's a choice you've made to do it. It's not like being gay.
Well, Toronto Ontario
12/30/10 3:32 AM EST
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There should be a revolt over this !!
As a citizen of Canada, I would prefer the Government to focus on eliminating, corporate crime, organized crime, gangs, assault, armed robbery, home invasions, crackdealers, and even smalltime crackheads who rob people on the street --not people growing small amounts of their own pot or baking hash brownies. I don't smoke pot, but there is a bigger issue here. People have been using drugs to enhance their mood since the dawn of humanity. Alcohol is such a drug and it is legal. Even some animal species ingest mood altering plants, koalas and monkeys, etc.. The desire to ingest mood altering drugs will never change. ___Crime should be defined as an action or activity that causes harm to others. People who do gardening and baking are less likely to harm others than those who are willing to do anything to anybody for cold hard cash. There are also “legal” crimes such as corporations who use chemicals/drugs in our food supply, which cause illness, cigarette companies, who knowingly poison populations and increase medical expenditures, etc. Why go after small people in their own homes? Will the government make more cold hard cash, by creating new jobs in the prison sector, to cope with the extra workload of imprisoning, students and grandmothers? There should be a revolt over this !!
Charles, Toronto Ont
12/30/10 6:30 PM EST
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Another decoy by Harper?
I wonder if this proposal is just another decoy by Harper. Surely he knows that the Liberals, the Bloc and the NDP will vote together in the House of Commons to defeat any bill that imposes a minimum six-month jail sentence for anyone caught growing six or more marijuana plants and 18 months for anyone caught producing hash or edibles like brownies. I suspect he knows the bill will be defeated, but wants to be able to tell socially conservative voters and religious voters that he tried to get tough on recreational drugs, but the opposition parties voted it down. Harper needs to pander to social conservatives and religious supporters in various rural and urban communities so that they will stay motivated. He needs them to keep volunteering and voting for (and donating to) the Conservative Party. He also wants to make inroads in socially conservative ethnic communities that have not traditionally voted Conservative.
Steve, Toronto Ontario
12/30/10 7:58 PM EST
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Socialist criminals
Canadians are taking back our country. The hug-a-thug LIEberals, druggies, socialists, illegals, and the rest of the scum that cowers in downtown Toronto are feeling paranoid & surrounded...because you are. The fast approaching election in the new year will bring a Conservative majority and you leftist dinosaurs will be buried forever.
ron, Vancouver Bc
12/30/10 9:03 PM EST
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Less Government = More Jails ? !!
Funny how the less-government-is-better crowd end up proposing expanding police forces, encouraging court intervention into private lives and building more jail cells.
Emoticon, Toronto Ontario
12/31/10 5:38 AM EST
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Fascist Pigs
Ron: That fascist dirtbag Harper still isn't ahead in the polls. His moderate singing hasn't helped. All this time, and he hasn't pulled ahead. What do you think is going to finally move things in Harper's favour? By the way, the Conservatives are pushing American-style policies on crime. There's no evidence that has ever helped them in terms of Conservative popularity. Naturally, Canadians care about crime. They just don't buy these facile, short-sighted, right-wing solutions.
CJ, Toronto Ontario
01/01/11 5:38 PM EST
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@CJ
Canada is not a fascist country if it was true then you would have been arrested for criticizing Steven Harper. Drugs are a cause of violent crime in Canada and most of the Canadian Public want tougher actions from failed polices under the Liberal Party. I always find funny when people compare Conservatives to Republicans in the United States when they view Steven Harper as a Socialist. What I can not seem to understand is why most people can not even tell the difference between Conservatives in Canada too Conservatives in the United States. I bet most people here on Xtra would be considered Conservatives in Russia oddly because in Russia the Communists and Socialist are Conservatives in Russia. Oh Well! I guess most people in the end do not even understand the definition of Liberals and Conservatives. As in Canada both do have different meanings then in the United States .
A Gay Conservative, , Canada
01/01/11 5:58 PM EST
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Narrow view of the crime agenda
I think the media narrative is somewhat misleading. At least I found it so when I referred to the legislation in question. The drug legislation, for instance, was specifically targeted at organized crime and professional criminals. I frankly think a direct attack on organized crime would be a necessary adjunct of legalizing marihuana. The fact that I was surprised at this shows a failure of reporting. Secondly, there are also efforts at pushing for differentiating offenders who are trying to reform from those who simply want to go back to crime. Currently the system of statutory release etc treats them as though they were identical. I think this is a reasonable measure.
Timothy Z, Calgary Alberta
01/06/11 5:55 PM EST
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re: Narrow view of the crime agenda
Bill S-10, the legislation in question may targeted at organized crime and professional criminals but it also targets and in practice, as seen in other country's with the similar laws, including the US, it also targets small time home growers, the sort of people who are taking money away from the other targeted group, the reality is this bill will create a new market for organized criminals. It will also jail people with chronic illnesses who use pot as a medicine but don't have all the paperwork in place, is it really justice to send a sick person to jail for not having all the paperwork done to use the medicine they need to help control their illness? According to the right wing answering a few extra questions on the census was intolerable but but they'll find it more than tolerable tossing someone in jail for 6 months because they didn't jump through the excessive number of hoops to get a licence to grow their own medicine. Even the US drug czar doesn't agree with Harper's approach - http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/895163--small-time-addicts-don-t-belong-in-jail-u-s-drug-czar as well as denounced as harmful by experts in the field http://www.fpyn.ca/content/news-item-or-announcement/bill-s-10-hurts-people-families-and-public-coffers . The US has the highest percentage of its citizens in prison, more so than any other country on earth, mostly due to their early acceptance of mandatory minimums for most everything, yet they have a much higher crime rate than Canada. If mandatory minimums worked there would be some evidence of that, nowadays many US jurisdictions are starting to realize their mistakes and are either getting rid of mandatory minimums or making them apply to only to the worst cases. Regardless it would be wise to learn from others experiences and not make the same mistakes, people's lives are at stake, we should be very cautious and continue to allow judicial discretion in sentencing which, based on the evidence, has served us very well
Rich, Toronto Ontario
01/06/11 7:21 PM EST
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