Currie, Dimitriou speak at Oshawa rally in wake of vicious attack
UPDATED & VIDEO REPORT / 'I'm still not afraid': Currie
Krishna Rau / National / Saturday, November 15, 2008
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HEALING SUPPORT. Anji Dimitriou (left) and Jane Currie suffered a homophobic attack on Nov 3. On Nov 14 hundreds rallied to their support at Oshawa City Hall.
Several hundred people showed up at a Nov 14 rally to support the two Oshawa women who were assaulted in front of their six-year-old son by a man who repeatedly called them "fucking dykes."

In an interview before the rally Anji Dimitriou, one of the women who was attacked, said the number of people who showed up for the event and the support the two received from strangers has been a tremendous boost.

"I feel excited, happy, completely loved and supported," she said. "All the people who are coming out, we're just at a loss for words."

Currie said she refused to change her life because of the attack.

"I came to Oshawa in 1988 and I've never been afraid to go anywhere," she said. "I'm still not afraid."

The women said their children, however, are still recovering from the trauma of witnessing the attack and its aftermath.

"They're still afraid," said Dimitriou.

"They're afraid of the what if," added Currie.

Speakers at the rally said homophobia would not be tolerated in Oshawa and vowed to stop any future attacks.

"Hatred does not define who we are," said Oshawa mayor John Gray. "We will not sit back and allow any act of hate to sully the name of our city."

City councillor April Cullen said people have to learn to welcome the increasing diversity of the area.

"We have to face the fact that Oshawa and Durham Region are changing," she said. "It's up to us to ensure that diversity is not just tolerated but welcomed. Sadly we have to educate people. We must first recognize where dignity is lacking then find ways to rectify that."

Brent Hawkes, the pastor of the Metropolitan Community Church of Toronto, told the crowd that openly gay couples are now a fact of life.

"If we value our relationships we will create a more accepting society," he said. "Those days when gays and lesbians had to hide their relationships, those days are over. We need to ensure safe spaces not just at Church and Wellesley but in other towns and cities."
 

 

Lesbian parents attacked in Oshawa in front of son
UPDATED / Activists say Durham region very homophobic
Krishna Rau / National / Thursday, November 20, 2008
 

BLOODY HUMILIATION. Jane Currie bleeds from her face in a photo taken by her partner moments after the two say they were attacked by a man in the parking lot of an Oshawa elementary school on Nov 3.
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A lesbian couple in Oshawa say they were brutally assaulted in front of their six-year-old son and his classmates on Nov 3.

Anji Dimitriou —  who is recovering from a broken spine suffered in a car accident —  and Jane Currie were picking their three children up from Gordon B Attersley Elementary School when a fellow parent allegedly attacked them.

Currie says they had just parked their truck and Dimitriou had gotten out when she saw the man —  who they say has verbally harassed them in the past —  approaching.

"Out of the corner of my eye I saw this man whom we've had run-ins with in the past," she says. "He made a beeline straight for Anji. I can see him getting him angrier and angrier. He said to Anji, 'Which of you two men spoke to my kid? Fucking dyke lesbians.' I jump out and just as I come around he spits right in her face. She wiped the spit off and he punched her in the face and hit her again in the back of the head.

"She was yelling obscenities and another father tried to shoulder him out of the way. Then he smacks me. My cheek burst with the force of the impact. He's about 6'4" or 6'5" and 250 pounds and we're both about 5'2". His fist was probably half the size of my head.

"My face is bleeding profusely everywhere. All these children who had just finished school had to see all this blood. They were screaming, including my own son who was up close and personal. They were devastated, hysterical. His own child saw this."

Currie says their two daughters, six and seven, came out in time to see their parents' bloody faces.

"They were terrified," she says. "They didn't know where to go."

Currie says the man was collecting his children and preparing to leave when the principal came out and told him to wait in her office until the police arrived.

"He said, 'Fine,'" she says. "He didn't think he had done anything wrong."

Currie says she and Dimitriou were taken to the hospital and the man was arrested by Durham Regional police based on eyewitness testimony.

"The right side of my face is swollen," she says. "There's stitches in my eye. My face is bruised up and down. With Anji we're waiting to see if the spots in front of here eyes go away. Her sight doubles when she looks up or down. He hit her so hard she bounced off the truckand reinjured the muscles around her spine. We've contacted the Criminal Compensation Board."

"But the worst is the mental side and the children. We took them to see a therapist on the Wednesday."

Dimitriou says the children are terrified.

"We have to show them every night how the alarm will go off," she says. "We went to Zellers and they didn't want to get out of the truck. 'What if he's in Zellers?' they asked. 'What if he comes back to the school and comes after us?'"

Dimitriou says the assault has also been devastating for other children at the school and parents.

"The principal says he's done more damage than just beating us," she says. "Parents and students are terrified."

The school has placed the man under a no-trespass order which requires him to stay 200 metres away from the facility. The police have also obtained an order requiring him to stay 500 metres from Dimitriou and Currie.

Dimitriou says she and Currie have each had a previous encounter with the man, in which he has blocked their access to a handicapped parking spot and called them "fucking dykes." She says the man has also been verbally abusive to other parents, but that everybody has let it slide.

"Teachers know about him," she says. "Nobody wants to talk to him because he's a psycho. This is a town of soccer moms and nobody wants to open their mouths."

Andrea Pidwerbecki, the communications manager for the Durham District School Board, says the school and the board will not comment on the man's history at the school.

"It's just not appropriate for them to discuss that," she says. "I couldn't comment on any specifics with regard to this as there's an ongoing police investigation."

Dimitriou says the police will be treating the case as a hate crime, but she says she had to push them into it, even though Durham police do have a hate crimes section.

"The officer said he wasn't really familiar with the hate crimes division. It's new," she says.

Dimitriou says she called the Toronto police hate crimes unit and was told it definitely was a hate crime.

She says she's pleased the Durham police have agreed to treat the assaults as a hate crime, but doesn't sound confident.

"I don't know how good or how bad the Durham police are," she says. "In Toronto I know they don't take this lightly. I hope it's the same here."

Sgt Paul McCurbin, the media relations officer for Durham regional police, says the police will ask the Crown attorney to approach the case as a hate crime if the investigation shows it's warranted.

"If the evidence shows that the only reason these two ladies were attacked was because of their gender or sexual orientation that evidence will come forward," he says. "We don't appreciate anybody being assaulted in our community. The police did what they're supposed to do, we arrested the bad guy."

Mark Scott, 43, of Oshawa has been charged with two counts of assault causing bodily harm. He was released and is scheduled to appear in court on Dec 16.

Scott's lawyer, Mark Jacula, issued a press release saying his client was the one who was attacked.

"Mr Scott, a visible minority, is outraged at the racial and physical abuse that he has suffered at the hands of Ms Dimitriou and Ms Currie," the release states. "Mr Scott is eagerly looking forward to his day in court when he will no longer have to be a victim anymore. The truth surrounding this incident will come to light and the parties responsible will be held accountable for the racially motivated and unprovoked attack he suffered."

Area residents say the police have been useless in helping to stop homophobic incidents in Durham region.

"My partner and I actually had to sell our house because we were being discriminated against so much," says Udana Muldoon, the chair of Durham Queer Parenting. "We had poo thrown at our house, water in our gas tank, we were called names all the time. The police officers said, 'If it's such a big deal, you should probably stay in your backyard."

Muldoon says she, her partner and their three-year-old are moving from Oshawa to a smaller town on the outskirts.

Peter Richtig, the executive director of the AIDS Committee of Durham Region, says the assault is not isolated. He says there have been homophobic assaults in the past.

"There have been other incidents, some even more violent," he says. "We have clients who have been forced to move out of the region, who have lost their housing after they were outed. Some have been outed by the police, some have ended up in psychiatric wards because of psychological harassment.

"Because of situations like this people are very closeted. They're afraid to be out."

Muldoon says she hopes the assaults will motivate people to stand up.

"It's made people come out of the woodwork and say, 'I wasn't out before but I am not. This is not okay."

Dimitriou says the main emotion she's feeling at the moment is rage.

"I'm angry," she says. "I just moved up here two years ago. I lived in Toronto my whole life. I never had anybody call me a dyke or make remarks to my children."

She says the couple is considering a civil suit against their assailant.

 



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Inappropriate Title
I think that the title of this article is inappropriate. "Brazen attack alleged in Oshawa"? How about "Lesbian couple attacked outside Oshawa school" or something more descriptive of the actual nature of the situation in order to raise some awareness! Which article would you be more likely to pay attention to? By the way, I've been following all the developing details and public comments with regards to this case on a facebook group created by the couple. I urge you to join! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=38197671178#/group.php?gid=38197671178
Hunter, Toronto Ontario
11/08/08 1:38 PM EST
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Outraged in Oshawa
I dont think this tragedy has received enough coverage. It pains me to think that if it had been a straight couple, this story might have been all over the media. This is not ok. Is soceity reconfirming that lesbians are low on the list of priorities? As a lesbian living in Oshawa, I am outraged. Will me and my partner be next? There are many gay people in the Durham community and we're here to stay. Close attention needs to be taken to this situation and the punishment should very well fit the crime. My biggest fear is that this gentlemen will receive a tap on the wrist. In that event, society will get the green light that this sort of behaviour is acceptable. An example needs to be made of this situation. No one deserves to live in fear. This is 2008 and no one should be forced to pretend to be straight to ensure their own safety as well as the safety of their loved ones.
Natalie, Oshawa Ontario
11/09/08 9:28 AM EST
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Shouldn't Surprise...
As an educator in the Durham Region, I have been working extensively in our schools and community in areas of anti-homophobia education. I have often been faced with comments like... "it is no longer an issues" or "times have changed". The reality is that homophobia has been and continues to be rampant in our community. This recent incident brutally confirms what I had already known. Continued education is of top priority and it is time our community recognizes that.
Garrett Metcalfe, Oshawa Ontario
11/09/08 10:47 AM EST
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Wrong Charges
I'm not a legal expert, but I believe that these charges should be classified as a hate crime, not simply assault. That would up the severity of the charges.
Melanie, Toronto ON
11/09/08 11:28 AM EST
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Impressed by the prinpical's actions
This is a terrible crime and that fact that the principal was able to get him to stay in the office after the fact, shows amazing character. He really believed that he wasn't wrong. That is why the court must treat this as a hate crime. The principal should be called as a witness to his behaviour and hopefull this will move quickly through the courts and published in the law book for any other cases in the future. I hope that this will not be something that we occur again. I am extremely angry that this was not covered by mainstream media, but I am thankful that Xtra was!
Naomi, Toronto Ontario
11/09/08 2:48 PM EST
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Think Again
" It pains me to think that if it had been a straight couple" This would not have happened to a straight couple.
Shawna, Oshawa Ontario
11/09/08 4:51 PM EST
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shocking.
it is shocking that the mainstream media hasnt even picked up the story. this is nothing short of lynching of sexual minorities.................
Sam, ottawa Ontario
11/09/08 7:35 PM EST
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Agreed.
Think Again "It pains me to think that if it had been a straight couple" This would not have happened to a straight couple. I agree with this statement, and I am even going to take it one further. Never have I heard of someone confronting a straight couple, nor have I heard of an extreme case of straight-bashing. I think that if it had been a couple that was heterosexual, #1, they wouldn't have been approached, and #2, it would be unlikely that anyone would recognize them as the parents of their children, because they would be "normal". I think that it is outrageous that these two women, or anyone for that matter, just because of the fact that they happen to have an attraction for the same sex. If you don't like the fact that they are together, and in love, then turn your head, don't confront them, especially in that setting. This is just wrong, and to think that there are people out there that way that homophobia is no longer an issue scares me.
Cari, Toronto Ontario
11/09/08 8:24 PM EST
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Disgusting
What kind of monster does this, let alone in a crowded schoolyard full of young children? What a tough guy- sucker-punching two women half his size in front of their six year old son. My heart breaks for the family for having to go through this. What makes me even angrier is that I haven't heard of this hate crime from any other news source. And that's exactly what it is, a hate crime.
Ryan, Guelph ON
11/09/08 10:39 PM EST
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one sided
First off, I'd like to say that no man should ever hit a woman, he was wrong, however from these two women you are only getting one side of the story. Where is this mans story of what happened? The woman even said that there was random comments made previous to this event. Also these women called the man a Niger before he hit them. Why aren't they being charged with something? why because they are women - so what everyone is involved here. I'm sure if the headlines were different you would all be singing a different tune how about "Two lesbian women call a man a Niger after spitting is in face, and black man hits women in self defense" you see the story differently now don't you. I'm glad my children do not go to this school but if they did I hope the Durham board will be taking all the families involved out of the school, to be sure that something like this does not happen again.
Sajen O'Luchi, Oshawa Ontario
11/10/08 12:07 AM EST
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One Sided Indeed
Sajen, thank you for infoming me that there was more to the story. I may be a lesbian but I am also a black woman. I am nobody's Niger. I had a little bit of a misunderstanding of what you wrote. The woman spat in his face first? Were you present for the events that took place? By all means I don't think a man should beat a woman. He should have ended it by merely spitting back. As someone who has had the unfortunate "opportunity" of being called a niger... it cuts deep and I can't say how I would have reacted had I have been him. Any way you slice it, hate on both sides is NOT OK. Whether we are black or asian, white or brown, gay straight or transexual, everyone deserves respect.
Natalie, Oshawa Ontario
11/10/08 10:55 AM EST
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One Sided ?
I am not sure of the events leading up to 'the attack' but I am sure that if there was evidence that these two women 'assualted' the school yard bully, they to would of been charged with assualt. 'Spitting in one's face is an assualt - so if they did this why weren't they charged Sajen O'Luchi?
Dawn, Oshawa Ontario
11/10/08 11:36 AM EST
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Or anyone for that matter.....
It has been mentioned over and over again that "no one should hit a woman" and I just have to say: NO ONE has the right to hit another human being unless in self-defence PERIOD. It shouldn't be better or more acceptable to see a man hit a man or woman hit a man; or in this case a man hitting a woman. Funny how no one has mentioned that. Hitting anyone for any reason is unacceptable.
Curtis, Hanover Ontario
11/10/08 11:48 AM EST
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To Sajen
To Sajen, your comment about being glad your children don't go to this school is offensive in itself. This is a wonderful school that my children attend with the staff and administration going above and beyond constantly for the students and their parents. This nonsense could have happened anywhere, but having personally seen this man who "allegedly" attacked this couple, I wouldn't put any stock in his "victimization". If it was true that he was spit on and called a racial slur, I'm sure a lot more of the witnesses would have heard it, because you should see how he acts when he can't get a parking space!
Julie, Oshawa ON
11/10/08 12:01 PM EST
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THE VICITMS SIDE!!!
for those of you that are hearing that i called him a "nigger" and "spit" in HIS face it is 100% NOT TRUE!! This COMPLETELY ENRAGES ME!! My best friend of 14 years is black, my childhood friend and my kids UNCLES are black, my nieces and nephews and mixed and MOST OF ALL.....my family is from the AFRICAN continent!! ARE YOU SERIOUS??? let's just THINK ABOUT THIS for a MINUTE!!
anji dimitriou, oshawa ON
11/10/08 12:20 PM EST
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WHAT!!!!!!
You've got to be kidding me, i too am a parent of 3 child-we are a queer family. I cant imagine the impact on this family unit. Why was this ignorant violent jerk not being charged with a HATE CRIME????? peace and safety to the family.
hunter kole, toronto ont
11/10/08 1:08 PM EST
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Huh?
Ok until reading here I had no idea, if at all it's the case, that the man involved is of colour. For that matter I'm glad that wasn't part of the story since that doesn't matter. some guy assulted two other women because they are lesbian. No other reason and as for just their side, well I read about this somewhere else and it sounds to me there were witnesses saying this guy just went nuts for no reason. http://www.newsdurhamregion.com/news/article/112449 BTW Sajen, to follow your logic, non, when someone is called names, sorry I won't repete the term you used as I personally find that term offesive as a woman of colour, the person is then permitted to hit another and call it self defense? That means I should be permitted to hit people alot of time in my past and, I expect, in my future. Violence such as this man showed is typical of someone who has deep anger and abuse issues. I hope CAS is also looking into his children's home life to find out if his child/ren are also being abused at home by him.
femme, Toronto ON.
11/10/08 1:14 PM EST
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HATE
IT IS A HATE CRIME. IT SHOULD BE IN MORE PAPERS. PEOPLE NEED TO BE EDUCATED THAT GENDER AND SEXUAL ATTRACTION IS DECIDED IN YOUR BRAIN. LOVE IS THE GREATEST THING ANY PERSONS CAN SHARE. HATE WILL DESTROY THE WORLD. LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING FREES US ALL.
ACE, OSHAWA ONTARIO
11/10/08 1:59 PM EST
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Sajen O'Luchi, Oshawa Ontario
Were you at the scene of the crime as it happened? Where are you getting your information from? Why would you fabricate such a terrible thing? That's a HEAVY accusation your just flinging around with your words. I'm outraged!
Hunter, Toronto Ontario
11/10/08 2:23 PM EST
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So Sad . . .
for the Children ! Looks like a duck . . . a Hate Crime.
Ron Mc, Toronto ON
11/10/08 8:15 PM EST
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Hate Crime???
If that's not out and out hate, I'd like an explanation of what 'HATE' is. These women were assaulted, based on their lifestyle. November 11 is the day we 'remember our fallen dead', who fought for what they believed. They fought 'hate, intolerance and injustice'. Learn from this, Mr. Scott, and may you pay for your crime.
lionel, toronto on
11/11/08 8:33 AM EST
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Pathetic
This so called man, attacked to females? Why? because they are Lesbians? To me, I call that a Hate Crime.
Bob Robert, Sudbury Ontario
11/11/08 10:00 AM EST
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Sajen Ill-Informed
Sajen, you are an idiot. Get your facts straight before you offer an opinion. Your bigotry is evident in your words.
patricia, Toronto Ontario
11/11/08 11:47 AM EST
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Hate Crimes
My boyfriend and I had a similar incident (though less violent) when a woman stopped her car and started screaming at us while we were walking our dogs early one morning last week. She started saying she was angry because of where the dogs were being walked, but she quickly changed over to screaming "you're just a couple of fagots" at us over and over and daring us to come over to her car. Not one to be bullied, I did. She then hit me in the face from her car, got out, and tried to shove me aside. Toto (my dog)was flipping out. I was raised to believe you didn't hit a woman so I calmly spit in her face. A passerby tried to intervene until they realized the woman was in a blind rage and all she could do was scream "faggots". The passerby quickly left and told the woman to drive away. When the woman realized Chris took a photo of her car and license plate and we had every intention of calling the police, she began to backtrack, She insisted she had nothing against gays because she had gay friends. I asked her how her friends would react when she told them she yelled "faggots" at two strangers walking their dogs this morning. She kept screaming. I emailed 55 division and I'm filing a complaint (they were wonderful).
Kevin McDonald, Toronto ON
11/11/08 1:46 PM EST
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Deeper problems here
Imagine a boy or girl being raised by these two tatooed freaks? I know people have their rights and all but this is ridiculous what the world is coming too when they consider their family a part of society. These are the 'moms'/family of kids that go shoot all their schoolmates because they are sick of being stressed out everyday over not having a real family. This has nothing to do with their sexual preference, but society allowing this to be considered a family. Pittiful and disgraceful..
Jake Peterson, Toronto Ont
11/11/08 11:21 PM EST
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Pittiful and disgraceful...
Jake Paterson, the only reason children in same sex families may have a harder time is because of people like you. A child needs love and protection. That has nothing to do with gender. Read again your own comments, look at your own life...what kind of parent you? Can you give love and stability with thoughts like that?
Lise, Vancouver BC
11/12/08 11:00 AM EST
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You're wrong dummy!
I Was Raised A Racist Dummy much like Jake from Toronto. That was half a century ago. And oh, how things have changed. Today, millions of families are intermingled, including mine. Those families now include children and grandchildren of multiple hues and also children who are being raised by gay parents. Clinical evidence has found that same-sex parents are equivalent to heterosexual parents in their ability to care for children and provide loving homes. But whether your family is integrated or not, it takes a stubborn person with a mind that is completely rusted shut to avoid the thought that has dawned on recovering racists like me: "You’re wrong, dummy"
Anita Bryant, Toronto ON
11/12/08 11:44 AM EST
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Please read the story again.
Please read the story again. HE spit in her face then hit her at that point she started yelling obsenities. No where does it say she was calling him a "Nigger" However if she did AFTER being spit on and hit I could not condone that being said but I would understand it. How many of you out there have been attacked by someone almost twice your size in front of your kids and didn't have something you wouldn't normally say come out of your mouth?
Rayne Morehouse, Powell River British Columbia
11/13/08 3:16 PM EST
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Jake Peterson - do some research
Jake Peterson, if you actually pay attention to facts rather than your own bigoted preconceptions and look at the backgrounds of the kids shooting up schools, you'll find that they almost invariably come from nice, middle class, straight homes. They're stressed out for different reasons and your including them here is shameful and uncalled for. I hope you're neither a parent nor a teacher.
Clare, Ottawa Ontario
11/13/08 5:17 PM EST
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PROSECUTE TO THE FULLEST!!
I am not a lesbian and was appaulled at this story. This is a Hate Crime and hope the school is doing something to educate the children. I really feel for the two women and hope that Man pays big time!!! My suggestion is that he needs to apologize to the whole community and explain to the children in the community and elsewhere publicly the WRONG which he has done.
Pam, Walkertown North Carolina
11/13/08 7:28 PM EST
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Really? Labelling is not necessary
I am really concerned with people's views of others. If you think someone is a freak for having tatooes or a bad parent because of being gay then you need do more research on life in general. No one is exactly the same, even identical twins. If you did research on same-sex families and their children you would find that most of the children are more outspoken and view life with great respect and concern. All children will question adults' ideas if you give them the freedom to express themselves. You as an adult must be able to accept and review your own views. Allowing your upbringing to cloud your logic and independent thought processing is really a shame. Hopefully you will question yourself before making comments that may not really represent your true independent thoughts.
Naomi, Toronto Ontario
11/13/08 7:42 PM EST
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Ingorant people
Jake Peterson, I'm sure he'll never be back to read this, but what right do you have to make assumptions like that? Because I have tattoos, I'm a freak, am I? And if I'm bisexual, does that also make me a freak? Do some research before you open your fat mouth. Children of mixed homes, whether it be mixed racially or a gay couple, tend to turn out much better than those coming from straight, middle class homes. They're raised to be tolerant and understanding of everyone, unlike you. Even I was raised in a straight, lower-class, Christian home. That did nothing beneficial for me, I made my own decisions about the world and what's right and wrong. I was lucky enough to only be that closed minded until the age of 15, when I opened my eyes and saw the world around me. You can't breed hate, or that's all you'll have. It sickens me to read such thoughtless, hateful remarks from someone who's more than likely in denial about his own sexuality.
Ellaina Murray, Kitchener Ontario
11/14/08 7:06 AM EST
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There was a hate crime..
It was committed by the so called 'lesbians'. My son and daughter go to that school and I witnessed the whole ordeal while picking them up. I was one of the first to stop him. I don't condone his actions but he was provoked and the firts swing was the lady with the neck tattoos. First the aggressor was the 'lesbian' with the tattoos. I heard them call him a 'nigger' three times. In fact also called him a 'fat fuck nigger' a few times. A lot of parents heard this and will be testifying. He did nothing wrong. Those two ladies wanted a scar (probably watching too much TV think they could best him since he's a big man) and got their asses whipped. The real hate crime is these two calling him nigger which was heard. The assault charges will be dropped and his side of the story will show who the true criminals are.
James Brody, Oshawa ONT
11/14/08 11:16 PM EST
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Thanks for the insight
Seems like most people posting here are those that agree with this biased article and the media's bias towards this situation in general, and I guess I shouldn't be surprised that more people don't agree with my opinion. That is my opinion, that most families would be better off with a father and mother that were both over the age of 25 when kids were concieved. Also, I don't pay much attention to research and base my opinions on what I personally see and hear because research can prove whatever researcher's want it to. The world ain't flat is it?
Jake Peterson, Toronto Ont
11/15/08 6:51 PM EST
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Tiny, Young, Lesbian Scared
I am outraged by this incident. I am 21 years old. I am also small, I stand at 4'11 and weigh barely 87lbs. I also walk with a bummed hip. When I heard about the attack I was scared. I am not one who goes out and gets drunk but I love to go to Karaoke to sing and see my friends. I cannot drive so, for me I walk one hour to and from the bar. Karaoke where I go ends aroud 2:30, 3:00 by the time I say all my good-byes. I used to walk on the shortest route other than the trail. Now, I have to walk down main streets where cars go by. I am a lesbian and many of my friends know me by my nickname "Mini Les" which means, Lesbian of the miniature variety. It started as a joke because I am so tiny. IU did go to the Rally and showed my support. And I am hoping to see changes made that will ensure the safety of everyone.
M!N! L3$, Ohawa Ontario
11/16/08 12:57 AM EST
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Danger to Society
We as a society need to stop thinking homosexual couples are any different from straight couples. We are all the same people. How sad for the children! This incident is breeding hate in the eye of the public. Which, I think is a danger to our society. This is a violation of the parents and the childrens right to be safe. I am so sad by this incident. I have both male and female gay friends, some with children, and l can't imagine thinking they deserve to be treated like that from society. Stop discrimination!
A.Collard, Cannington ontario
11/17/08 10:50 AM EST
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Can't Believe Everything
"The world ain't flat is it?" Jake, what you fail to understand is that research is what proved that the world is not flat. If people were to believe everything that they merely see and hear then all of the rules and values laid out in the Bible that I have seen, because I've read some of them, would be followed today. Rules such as, women who are unclean are not to be touched and anything that they touch is to be burned, men are allowed to have many wives, meet will not be eaten on certain days and so on. Just from hearing it does not make it true that President Bush was or is good for the United States, I heard that on TV. Neither does just seeing make things true. One can see part of something and make assumptions, but is usually wrong if the act or incidence was not observed in its entirety. Just as making assumptions and judgments from over hearing part of a conversation can lead to a terrible misunderstanding if one does not take pains to discover or research to find out what was missed. “Contempt prior to investigation” is the basis for most hate. People seem to make assumptions and judgments about an individual based on what they see. This is done in place of getting to know the individual as a person rather than as an object. There is more to people that transcends sight and sound. There is more to an individual that can only be discovered through investigation and research. “Contempt prior to investigation” has been my experience. For instance, Jake seems to believe that people who have tattoos are “freaks.” I can only imagine your reaction to this freak teaching your kids.
Shawna, Oshawa Ontario
11/17/08 9:01 PM EST
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disgusting
I can not believe this happened in this day and age and in our area. We think people have gone beyond this type of sick discrimination. I hope this redneck lands in jail. My heart aches for the children, what a message to give them in their most formative years. Just want to say I am behind the girls l00% and if there is any doubts about this being called a 'hate crime' I hope there will be another rally. I pray the girls will do their best to get over this experience, this man is the one who needs help.
elizabeth harris, port perry ontario
11/18/08 1:18 PM EST
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outrageous
There seems to be a lot of ignorance and finger pointing; Assault is one thing- (never the answer to fear or anger!)- but assault against two women because they are openly gay is a HATE crime and should not be tolerated, ever. I am disgusted by some of the comments made here and the judgmental mentality. We seem to forget lessons we were all taught in Kindergarten- "do not judge a book by it's cover", "be kind to our neighbors." Where has our compassion and our tolerance for "otherness" gone? We are all unique and "different" we live in a cultural mosaic (CANADA)- we are known around the world, and respected for being open minded and fair and peace loving! Let no one stand by and allow women to be beaten upon by a man (any man) because of our beautiful differences. Since this took place on educational property and children were witness to such hate, I sure hope this school and other school's will work with students and re-emphasize standards on how to treat one another with respect and love, rather than with fists and venom. I feel badly that this may trickle down and children may perceive this behavior as "acceptable" Stop the hate now..please. Education is key!
unbelievable, oshawa ontario
11/22/08 11:24 AM EST
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