Winnipeg Pride wants parade to be "family friendly"
MANITOBA / Shouldn't portray gays as "extremists": past chair
Kaj Hasselriis / National / Tuesday, March 10, 2009
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THINK OF THE CHILDREN! The Winnipeg Pride committee is advertising a "family friendly" parade this year, after police received one anonymous complaint about last year's event (pictured).
(Kelsey Clifford photo)
The Winnipeg Pride committee is warning participants at this year's Pride parade to keep it "family friendly," after an unidentified person lodged a complaint with local police.

Marie-Line Lacerte, the chair of last June's event, said an officer called her shortly after the parade to say that a member of the public had complained about it. She told the Pride committee about the call, and as a result, the committee subsequently voted to add the following disclaimer to this year's float registration: "We would like to remind all entrants that Winnipeg Pride is a family friendly event."

No one on the Pride committee knows who made the complaint, or how they complained, or even what the complaint was about. Lacerte never asked for details when the officer called her, and the police refuse to give details to Xtra.

Still, Lacerte stands by the committee's decision to advertise a "family friendly" parade. "We have to remember that this is a public event," she said. "Part of the parade is to show people we're not extremists, we're real people."

When asked what she meant by "extremists," Lacerte responded, "Drag queens and butch women." She added that it's important to show the people of Winnipeg that there are "mainstream" queer community members, too, like "lawyers and doctors."

Lacerte, a member of the Pride committee for 10 years, said the committee has never turned away any floats. But, she added, "We always keep an eye out." Three years ago, she said they asked a "crudely-dressed" man to go home and change. "His package was hanging out," said Lacerte.

She also suggested that the committee consider a broader definition of the word "nudity," such as mesh nylons on drag queens. "Is this nudity for you and I?" she asked. "No, but maybe for somebody in the mainstream it is."

Another member of the Pride committee, parade coordinator Alex Espinosa, said, "I'm very liberal with a lot of things. I'm not against nudity but I want to make sure we get another parade permit." In terms of heeding the police's call, he said, "I kind of understand them. There are kids there."

Word of Pride's new "family friendly" warning is starting to spread around Winnipeg, and Lacerte's replacement as chair, Barb Burkowski, is anxious to quell any controversy. "I've never in all my years of going to Pride seen something that was unacceptable," she said. "It's about inclusiveness. We are what we are."

She insists that, despite the warning, no one is going to "police" this year's floats. "We'll be surprised as anybody that Sunday morning (June 14)," she said.

Yet, when asked about the anonymous complaint that started all this, she said, "We wanted to acknowledge it."

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I have the perfect solution!
For Ms. Lacerte: why not just invite ONLY straight people to participate in the parade! none of those embarrassing 'extremists' like drag queens or butch women. I can only imagine that trans people who are visibly trans are extremists too. It would all be so much more sanitary and family friendly. how about all straight folks in DISNEY costumes!? that would be even better, safer, cleaner! Seriously...how has Winnipeg not thrown this person off their Pride board yet? whew. unreal. Winnipeg Pride...THE event to miss!
Shannon Blatt, Ottawa Ontario
03/10/09 6:47 PM EST
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then again...
Given that I'm one of those nice, sanitary queer lawyers packaged in a filthy, socially unacceptable, extremist trans woman's body, perhaps I should make sure I attend Winnipeg Pride...in full out, nude, drag-king gender fuck. With fishnets! Yeah. I like it. See you then. I hope others will join in to re-queer this event.
Shannon Blatt, Ottawa Ontario
03/10/09 6:58 PM EST
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What's Going On In Winnipeg?
(1) Who, upon receiving any complaint, doesn't ask what it was about? (2) In what way are "drag queens and butch women" extreme? This is pretty mainstream these days. Don't they have television in Winnipeg? (3) It's just as important to show the queers who ARENT'T doctors, as it is to show the ones who ARE. If we only show our white-picket-fence members, we've completely missed the point of a pride event, which is the entire rainbow.
Randy, Windsor Ontario
03/10/09 7:50 PM EST
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Oh, whatever
Even beyond how gross it is to still in 2009 be dredging up the tired old "but they give us a bad imaaaaaaage!" line, and how galling it is to advocate discriminating against and excluding people from Pride, of all places, based on their gender presentation... without any drag queens or butch women, that is gonna be one BORING Pride.
Matt, Verdun QC
03/10/09 10:04 PM EST
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Ridiculous
Marie-Line Lacerte should resign. Trying to exclude drag queens and butch women - I guess dykes on bikes are out? - from Pride means you might as well have no Pride at all. Under her leadership the parade should be retitled Ashamed of Diversity. As a nice respectable queer the very idea of this outrages me. ONE complaint from a hater actually seems pretty low for a Pride Parade, and shouldn't be the basis for trying to push out all the people you think aren't "mainstream" enough. Newsflash: the kind of people who are going to complain if they don't see a butch woman as "family friendly" do not care if you are a "respectable" homo anyway. And sidelining half your community in the process of trying to ingratiate your more "respectable" lesbian self with haters is reprehensible. (In an era where Ellen DeGeneres and Rachel Maddow have tv shows, butch IS respectable, anyway. Drag queen isn't far behind.) So stop clutching at your pearls and ruining the very concept of Pride.
Ali, Vancouver BC
03/11/09 2:42 PM EST
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Don't sweep us under the rug!
As a "respectable" manager of a womens retail store and with a retail career spanning 17 years, I resent being told that this is the only image acceptable to show in public. I do my work in a respectful and polite manner, but it does not mean I do not let my hair down on my own time. The article implies that people with respectable jobs are "mainstream" prudes that do not condone "nudity" or drag queens etc.. In fact I am aware of many high paid proffessional people with respectable jobs that are horrified to hear that they it is being "suggested" that they hold back their freedom of expression in their free time. I thought we were supposed to be moving toward the freedom to be who and what we are in private and public. Why are we being asked to hide it again?
Cheryl, Winnipeg Manitoba
03/12/09 11:45 PM EST
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Since when hasn't Pride been family friendly?
I believe that Pride has ALWAYS been family friendly. What else do you call the vast amount of people who come together to celebrate our city's LGBT community? We come together as a family to show the world who we are. I've been attending the Pride Parade since I was ten or eleven and I've NEVER found anything anyone ever wore to be "extreme". Children should be exposed to this community as it is our generation is more accepting and we will replace that of the elder, in which a majority is still very much close minded to anyone being gay. It infuriates me that Drag Queens and butch women are being called extremists! The "mainstream" queer community exists among the everyday straight community, why should they not be allowed to have fun and go wild for one day out of the year? Calling Drag Queens and butch women extremists makes me think of our world's past history. Hitler dehumanized the Jewish community, anyone of African-American descent were never considered to be equal up until recently (and are still discriminated against). Are you not doing the same thing to Draq Queens and butch women by telling them they need to blend into the mainstream community? It just doesn't make sense to me. Pride is our chance to show the world who we TRULY are. Do you really want us to keep taking steps backwards to the time when many wore paper bags over their heads because they were ashamed? We are not ashamed, and we are not afraid to show ourselves to the world. As Cheryl stated, why are we being asked to hide who and what we are after we have worked so hard to earn this freedom? As far as I'm concerned, in this world there are men and women, both of which know how to love. What does it matter what we look like on the outside, were we not taught to look for the heart inside?
Crystal, Winnipeg Mb
03/13/09 12:50 AM EST
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Speaking as a queer parent
I think that censorship is never a good thing. Sure there are now more mainstream queers in the world and that should be acknowledged. But I as a parent of now 18 and 20 year old daughters see the value in showing all aspects of society, not just the politcally friendly ones. My daugthers have been attending Pride with me and my partner for the past five years, and I was never embarrassed to explain any of what they saw to them. Seeing and understanding has made them pretty awesome people. There are lawyers and doctors and such that are not exactly mainstream on the weekends either. Drag Queens, and butch women may be the most visible aspect of our culture, but should not be singled out to take the brunt of any type of criticism. Are twinks and trannies next on the list? I think it needs to be argued that there are may aspects to our community, just as there are to any community, town, neighbourhood, province, country, religion, well you get my point, every group has it's extremists, but not all are bad influences.
Shandi, Winnipeg Mb
03/13/09 2:21 PM EST
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socially acceptable
Ok, here goes...ever seen a grey cup celebration? Not at all unusual to see butch guys with beards parodying cheerleaders. Ever seen a shriners parade? the last shriners convention had 2 parades in one weekend - they got a special permit. Shriners parodying various ethnic groups - big turbans VERY offensive i thought. yes myriad wrongs on the part of others dont entitle us to make the same mistake BUT...lets not forget that the Stonewall riot came about because a bunch of marginalised people...some of them drag queens finally said enough. If in the pride committees view pride means look how well we assimilate...look how well we conform then I think we should change the name and focus of the event. Pride is for many people our prom, homecoming, grey cup and mardi gras rolled into one. Theres a bit of estrogen and testosterone where some of us bump and grind a little and actually carry on like NORMAL people do at a sporting event or a celebration. I personally plan on behaving as tastefull as if we had won the world series. As to Pictoria and Gloria I look forward every year to what they will be wearing. I think the humor they express is about laughing at the projections people have of us. Yes we have an example to set, yes we should be letting people know we are part of a community but lets not marginalise anyone in the name of blending in and lets not pander to the acceptance of those who would do so.
Trevor, Winnipeg Manitoba
03/14/09 11:19 AM EST
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OUT with it!
Frankly I am surprised there was only one complaint. There are so many people in our world and this city who probably will not think twice about any scheme to disrupt the annual event that clashes with their values. So this is it? All someone has to do is call and complain to get the police and city to put pressure on a harmless and necessary public display? Oooooh the power! If I call and complain about ANY group that opposes me I can get the cops and the city on them? MUAHAHAHAHA!!!! I am calling right now. "Yes hello? Hi. I would like to lodge a complaint. Yeah. People that walk slow in the mall. I want signs put up at every entrance warning that this is a Mobility Friendly mall and slow people (especially the ones that walk slow and take up the whole aisle) are not tolerated!"
Sean, Winnipeg Manitoba
03/14/09 3:52 PM EST
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Back into the Closet with Some of You.
Seems like Marie-Line Lacerte of the Gay Parade day committee needs a lesson in the continuing struggle for Gay (meaning homosexual males) , Lesbian (meaning homosexual females) Transgender and all human rights. The parade is to celebrate who we ALL are, not just the variety of gayness or female homosexuality she approves of. What is wrong with Diesel dykes, motorcycle mama's, transvestites and drag queens you gotta lik'em. Should we hide them from our children, Look how much fun they would be missing. I say nay nay, the more Drag Queens, Doctors, Diesel Dykes, Lawyers and Motorcycle Mamas the better. The truth should not be hidden from society young or old. These people exist and make up the diversity of our culture. Shame on you for even suggesting such a thing. bull dozers have done a ton of damage in the past, turn off your motor, let society show itself as it truly is. What nudity, if your dress shows your ankles, get a grip, the dark ages were over years ago. Ya I think the whole community would agree, Canadian society is not ready for public display ofnudity ( which is accepted in more mature societies). But to make lists of who can and who can't is exactly why Gay men an Lesbians where pushed into the underground for so many decades. Come on lady don't be so prissy. You chose to be there to organize, not to exclude or include at your whim or suggestion. Those who have the desire will bring out their families no matter who you include or exclude. The others (who have yet to see that they are NOT the whole of society) would not bring their families to support such a parade in any form. Besides we have family day in Manitoba, we called it Louis Riel day and its fun and we are ALL invited. Whether one chooses to take part or not has no bearing on the fact that is exists. No one is excluded from taking part. The largest gay prides around the world ( some times ongoing with days of public events) e.g. Sydney, London, Madrid, Auckland - t
Neil, Winnipeg MB
03/14/09 5:25 PM EST
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Give me a Break
Obvioulsy the person that complained has not seen pride parades in other cities. What a shock it would be for them to accidently stoll past the gay pride parade in Toronto or Vancouver! As far as I am concerned, Winnipeg's gay parade is as family friendly as one could expect for a city this size. I have yet to see any complete nudity and I have not seen anything so outrageous that would warrent a letter of complaint. Give me a break already! If the parade is not up to the standards that one has set for themselves, the option to not partake in marching and oberserving is there. Its a couple of hours once a year for the gay community and their supporters to let loose in the street and have fun - so again, if there is concern as to a "family" aspect of it, one should be reminded that a family consist of many different people with many differnt personalities! Cheers!
Douglas, Winnipeg Manitoba
03/15/09 1:35 PM EST
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Drag Queen's showing their "junk"
If she knew anything about drag....she would know...no matter how mesh or see through an outfit is, there is nothing to see! We are up and tucked & usually covered with a few pairs of tights and nylons. If you can see my "junk" (that is taped under my crotch to my ass) then you should be doing something else with your x-ray vision. And to insult "really butch women", come on, just because a women is bigger and does not subscibe to magazine outfits and mainstream hair & makeup styles they are not to be included?? Marie-Line Lacerte you still have time to take your foot out of your mouth, One complaint with no specifics...what is this a communist country?? Since when do we as a community let anyone tell us what to do?
Jason/Jasmine Whore-Moan, Winnipeg mb
03/16/09 12:00 PM EST
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THINK AGAIN, FOLKS!
Your comment makers need to give their head a shake! Marie-Line has worked tirelessly for ten years to make Winnipeg Pride, our Pride, the gathering of thousands of people it is today. When ML started volunteering with Wpg Pride, hundreds gathered. Now thousands gather. It is impossible to believe a person with this dedication to our ENTIRE community has a problem with drag queens or butches. Have you met Marie-Line? Obviously not by your uninformed and hurtful comments! She clearly is misquoted by the writer, and misunderstood by these readers who have commented. Winnipeg Pride will be a fabulous time as always with several new events and entertainment. Throw out those negative thoughts, give ML a hug and say thank you to the many volunteers and sponsors who make Pride happen. Winnipeg, come out and show us your colours!
Barb, Winnipeg MB
03/16/09 5:25 PM EST
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what's really behind this?
If (as Barb has said) the writer got it wrong, I'm relieved, as it did seem out of character. There's some hot buttons in this issue that I think are a big part of the reaction. Theres nothing objectionable about reminding us that kids are going to be present and maybe having events we can bring them to (Ive suggested a pancake breakfast in the past). It was the reference to "extremists" that hit a nerve for me and others. I think a huge part of why people see red flags around this is in three things: One being the "family values" aspect that has been used against us in everything from political races to The anti-proposition 8 ads in the states that were all about "protecting family". I think we all encounter that kind of prejudice that says " I dont have a problem with gay people, just dont be obvious, or not in front of my kids". On a deeper level that many of us choose to overlook there's a classism and an internalised homophobia that IS present in our community. Look at the number of personal ads that highlight "straight acting" or specifically bar "no fats or fems". Pride is one of the few events where aspects of our community mix that normally dont and we have people (like Ms. Lacerte) who do a lot of work to thank for that. Finally I think the media has some responsibility...I think they will always choose the most outrageous Photo op, or a statement, taken out of context,that is the most inflammatory. So we have to be wary of that. We all can learn from this issue and also look at our own buttons being pushed. We are all family and like family we have to stick together like it or not.
Trevor, Winnipeg Manitoba
03/17/09 10:58 AM EST
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BWA HA HA...
Hmmm...what if the participants are butch lawyers or doctors in drag? Can we still go?
Beth Walden, GTA Ontario
03/30/09 1:02 PM EST
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Homophobia in its finest
My partner and I have been participating in Gay Pride Parade for years, even when there were only 10 people and many of those 10 wore masks. The ones that did not wear a mask were the drag queens with high high heels. They were proud and bold. How dare anyone not allow them or say they are not respectful of family. They are our history. They are bold. The "Butch" women are our history and they were beaten and hurt by people that believed that they should not exist. They are part of my community and they have been the movers and shakers of our culture. When i was scared to be out, they were giving us a present. They have not harmed anyone and they are family.
Sharon Taylor, Winnipeg Mb
05/26/09 3:11 PM EST
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