A heated trans action
TRANS RIGHTS
Tera Mallette / National / Monday, December 26, 2011
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There’s been a storm of controversy regarding the public posting of a trans woman’s birth name on Xtra editor Danny Glenwright’s personal Facebook page. People were upset. As a queer trans woman, I was upset.

To clarify: a trans person’s birth name is not something to be shared lightly. It is not their “real” name and it is not their “correct” name. To share such a name without consent is tantamount to saying “Well, they go by ****, but their real name is ****.” It de-legitimizes their transition and repudiates their chosen gender. To be shackled to a mistake of birth for the rest of our lives is heartbreaking — that all our work, all our fight could be so easily and unceremoniously undone with the simple phrase “Born: ****.”

This mistake raised the ire of a cross section of the queer community, inducing calls for a boycott of Xtra. The furor continued as Glenwright initially failed to remove the offensive post and with his post of a rejoinder on the xtra.ca blog. While the blog detailed a complicated history with the trans woman in question, its defensiveness was seen by many as a justification for posting her birth name. While that may not have been his intent, it was the effect.

Though Glenwright’s Facebook sin was great, for many it was just the latest in a series of errors and blatant transphobia by Xtra staff. Whether it was the refusal to refer to Elisha Lim in their chosen pronoun (the gender non-specific “they”) or a series of 2008 editorials ridiculing inclusive policies at other organizations and bemoaning past and future financial burdens on gays and lesbians in securing trans rights, there are far bigger fish to fry here than one man’s indiscretion on his personal Facebook page.

Rather than politics of division and calls for boycotts, let’s admit what even Xtra has thus far failed to do. We are, all of us, a community. We have fought together, suffered together and overcome together. At our best, we have worked together because gay and trans rights, and the fights for those rights, are inextricably linked. We’ve done this together because gender and sexuality are linked. And while they are not the same, they are allied by nature. Any separation imposed upon them or the communities that have arisen between them is artificial and false.

That’s why when the cops raided Compton’s, we were there together. When they raided Stonewall Inn, we were there together. When they raided the Pussy Palace, we were there together (hell, I was working security). We were there, together, because our interests were aligned: our mutual desire for the rights denied us brought us together.

To that end, let’s recognize what so many deny: gender rights and protections are rights and protections for gays as well. Though sexual orientation is protected, it is only one facet of the discrimination faced by gays and lesbians everywhere. All too often that discrimination is rooted not in who you fuck, but in your gender presentation: whether it’s the butch lesbian, the effeminate gay man, the drag queen or the drag king. From there it’s only a short trip to trans woman or trans man. They’ll use the same epithets and hurl the same hate, but in the end it’s the visible among us who are attacked — gay, lesbian, bi or trans.

I’ve been working with Pink Triangle Press for 12 years because I believe in the activism that formed it. Yet in all the time I’ve been here, out loud and proud, I’ve never had an experience as positive as the one set in motion by Glenwright’s post. People here are genuinely eager to understand more about trans issues, etiquette and experiences.

Let’s capitalize on that enthusiasm, embrace our shared history and recognize our mutual goals. Let’s push aside our differences and recognize that trans and bisexual people are essential contributing members of our community. Let’s urge Xtra to join the 21st century and call for trans and bi people to be included in the Xtra page header. It’s time we recognized that Xtra is a paper for the entire community and for its cover, content and policies to reflect that.

Xtra: Toronto’s gay, lesbian, bi and trans news.



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Gulag Queen's Speech
Are you a fundamentalist? Your use of concepts like "sin", "natural", and "artificial and false" sound remarkably as dogmatic and evangelizing as any Christian fanatic. You would make a great polemecist for far right recruitment. Or for the apparently hive-minded El-GeeBeeTee juggernaut. All praise to the Great One.
the dead, Toronto Ontario
12/27/11 5:53 PM EST
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Respectfully...
I am not a phobe. I believe in equality for all trans people, but out of respect I want to point out what I feel is becoming a very big problem with trans activism and activism in general, everything form GLBT to race to women's rights. That growing problem is entitlement. This whole incident is highlighting it. First of all, every person, to varying decrees would love to completely change their identities and start a totally new life. To not be ''shackled to a mistake of birth'' so to speak. The thing is, nobody can do that. Every single person no matter who they are or what actions they take in the present, is shackled to their past, because the past is unchangeable and to claim otherwise just because you are trans and suffering comes off as very entitled, immature and winey. That is not the intention but that's what it sounds like. Glennright did not lie when he mentioned Ms. Tronic's birth name. He recounted a FACT from her past. It is not her real name anymore and she might hate everything about it but the TRUTH is that in the past that WAS her name. It sucks but tough shit. You can't change the past. Secondly, The initial incident took place on a private facebook page between people who were acting as private citizens at the time. If this is true I find it rather odd that Ms. Tronic and others would force the issue into the public arena. That also is very entitled, just because you are offended by a private action does not mean that you are entitled to try and publicly humiliate the other person to further your own agenda, which is what it came off as. Thirdly, what entitles Ms. Tronic to critisize Mr. Glennwrite supposed transphobia and simultaniously run a web site called ''satanic tranny slutz''? Sorry but no matter how slice it that is hypocritical. To be clear, I'm not attacking trans people. I'm trying to be brutally honest, which is the best kind.
Jim, Edmonton Alberta
12/28/11 3:35 AM EST
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respectfully: not very respectful
no you can't change the past, but you can have some respect in the present. many trans people do not want their old name used. so you don't out of respect and solidarity. the post was linked to a very public article in a magazine with a history of transphobia. the post was made by the editor of that magazine. that makes it public. also how lexi decides to deal with someone being disrespectful, is her choice. if lexi tronic wants to call herself a trannie slut she can. it's called re-appropriation. it happens, ALL THE TIME. like queers calling themselves, well, queers. 'to claim otherwise just because you are trans and suffering comes off as very entitled, immature and winey' you are a phobe. the best way to deal with is to not be 'whiney' when you get called on it. and you just got called on it. that's the hard truth. the best kind. i think this 'tera's' article is fabulous. i think you should read it again and think about it, friend.
kit, toronto ont
12/29/11 11:35 AM EST
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thank-you
Hi Tera, Thank-you for taking on this piece...and for doing the non-paid education you do at your workplace. I was there at the community meeting, and I do see this as opportunity for learning, growth, and much needed change in our community dynamics - particularly the lightning rod of bringing Xtra back to its activist roots in alignment with its trans siblings. Only thing I'd add is that while some trans folks like yourself consider birth the cause of the struggle.... I would say *societal impositions* beginning at birth are the struggle. Thank-you again.
Sly, TO ON
12/29/11 12:00 PM EST
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Trans-confused for the rest of society
I'm a student at a downtown college and we don't know anything about Trannies. There's transvestites, transgendered, transsexuals and I'm Trans-confused what means what? I'm secure in my own sexuality but it's hard to understand that a female mind is in a male body or vice versa.
Brian O'Donnell, Toronto ON
12/29/11 1:16 PM EST
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Who needs Xtra?
Only one person has the authority to decide if Xtra will expand their mission to include the trans community: Ken Popert. Sorry, great post Tera - truly - but the problems with Xtra go far deeper than the issue of systemic transphobia (or systemic racism). They stem from larger issues of control and the organization's lack of transparency. Either way though, who the fuck cares what Xtra does as Queers and trans people are doing it for ourselves online now. Sure, Xtra is nice to have around but we'd survive without it.
Doing It For Ourselves Online, Toronto Ontario
12/29/11 1:23 PM EST
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The artical is wonderful!
and I agree with Tera Mallette in many respects. Including the fact that a person should be referred to by what they identify as. That is their real name. The birth one is not. BUT if it was a private altercation, then is no reason to drag Glenright's name through the mud and accuse him of transphobia. It could have been easily solved with a few words between him and Ms. Tronic. She does not have the ''right'' to drag this out in public to further her own agenda. If it was public to begin with then we have to acknowledge that Tronic is a public figure and Xtra! is a publication. As a writer Glenwrite can and should write whatever he wants regardless of the subjects personal feelings, on the condition that what he is writing is not outright false information or out right hate. Using a trans persons birth name does not qualify as either. It is disrespectful to that individual and it verges on unprofessional but it is not hate speech and it is not a falsehood. So calling it transphobic is stupid and it comes off as trite. As for the issue of ''re-appropriation'' it's a load of crap. Words like, ''nigger, tranny, faggot, dyke,'' are slurs no matter what mouth they come out of. Kit, you right in that Tronic can refer to herself as a ''tranny slut'' if she wants. What I'm saying is that by doing so and then going off to complain about the horrible transphobic words of Mr. Glennright that she is an entitled hypocrite. I am not attacking Trans people. If I'm attacking anyone it's Ms. Tronic for her trite, hypocritical, entitlement and also Mr Glennwrite for acting like an unproffesionall immature ass who comes off as trying to get back at someone who bullied him as a child. I also wanted to address a problem within activism, not the activism itself. I hope I made myself more clear. This incident is more about a school yard squabble than transphobia or personal respect. We've all just been sucked into it.
Jim, Edmonton Alberta
12/29/11 5:40 PM EST
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Stage names are not recognized by institutions
Anyone who has come to Canada from another country and had Anglicized his/her name while growing up, such as “Juan” to “John” and then decides to get a diploma or degree from an accredited institution will be in for a surprise. They will demand to see your birth certificate. Whatever name you have on your birth certificate is what will go on the Diploma. It is the same for a passport or any official document, unless you have had a “legal name change.” People who just decide from one day to the next to change their name and identity under a new “stage name” will find that official organizations will not recognize them and will not do any “TRANS-action” with them, except based on an official legal name on official legal documents. Someone complained that Savannah Garmon's supervisor refused to use her female name on a letter of reference. The supervisor could only use the name which was on an official document of identification, if she had NOT formally and legally changed her name. Governments and institutions are careful now, because some people have committed fraud, etc., and then changed their name and got away with crimes. On a name change certificate, the new and previous names will appear. That's the law for everyone equally. So if you are doing business with anyone, you should check to see if their name is officially and legally their name. If they have had a name change, verify who and what they were under their previous name, to see if they are trustworthy.
.gov, TO ONt
12/29/11 7:07 PM EST
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Thanks Tera!
Your piece is a necessary education for many and, sadly, highlights the ignorance that exists in our city and far beyond when it comes to equality and respect for our trans friends and siblings. Thank you for your work. Trans people do not choose their gender any more than non-trans folks do. This I have learned through working, living, loving and getting by, side by side with trans folks. If you keep your mind closed, you will continue to see your own existence alone and not learn to respect those whose lived experience differs from yours. Is it so hard to ask of ourselves what we as queers expect of straight folks - a little respect? We have such a long way to go, and yet the simple inclusion of trans and bi identities in the Xtra header would make an important statement - on that would take our community a long way forward and invite more of this kind of discussion, reflection, and expansion of knowledge.
Clare Nobbs, Toronto Ontario
12/29/11 7:49 PM EST
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Only Ken Popert can fix this
One of the above commenters is right: only Ken Popert can fix this. As the head of the secretive Pink Triangle Press (which owns Xtra), Ken Popert can cause Xtra to address the concerns of trans activists, refute the actions of Danny Glenwright and cause Glenwright to apologize. Popert is Xtra.
Doug, Toronto Ontario
12/29/11 10:59 PM EST
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Just A Few Thoughts
"their chosen gender" When I hear that I equate that with choice of the sex one loves. Neither is a choice I believe the right way of saying that might have been, their core gender/their self known gender. @Brian A Simplification; Transvestite an old not really used term any longer(now people use crossdresser) for a person who wears the clothing of the opposite sex then themselves occasionally. Transgender, an umbrella terms , like queer, which can and does include anyone who society considers is transgressing gender norms.(as this is subject to each others interpretation the list of groups/identities is almost endless.) Transsexual speaks to a condition one is born with in which their brain differs from their body. @.gov and I don't believe that's an issue in the Lexi issue as her legal name wasn't the one shared on Dannys face-book page. One's B.C will only show the current legal name, not any past name. so your idea was moot. No one walks around with a N/C doc to show who they are.@Jim, no he didn't lie he purposefully used her past name even through he never needed to. Then he attempted to squirm out of his knowing it was wrong and added to it by whining that he was once hard done by, many years earlier, by lexi. (hmm the real reason for using her past name?) As to one's past. One isn't "shackled to it that's why we have present. In other words most of us live in the present our past is who we were or what we did to get to the present. Many victims of abuse spend many years distancing themselves from that past. Are you suggesting they shouldn't? And yes it might have been his facebook space but he still represents his work place and the position he holds there even when not at work. It's the joys of the jobs. Oh & I'm proud to use Dyke and Femme as they are both part of who I am I don't have to just use lesbian or gay to suit you. @doing. One thing is true, each community no longer need rely on any one print med
femme, TO ON
12/29/11 11:42 PM EST
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some growing up required
Danny needs to leave his inner child behind with its hurt feelings and what not, grow up and step into the shoe of his profession. If he wanted to play revenge and be a hissy teenage boy, that's his business but not when he's the editor of a national media. It's not just Trans 101 he needs to learn about but journalism 101 as well. What were you thinking Danny? And to folks outside of the trans community telling T folks how they should feel about being mistreated, DON'T, until you have walked in their shoes, you have no right to tell them to calm down.
Amy, Calgary Alberta
12/30/11 1:39 AM EST
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Respectfully...
This is in response to Jim in Alberta. I am a trans person and I think you are absolutely right. We can not do a boycott of every little issue that happens or there will be nothing left to read, shop, etc. I am not a big fan of my older male name but I have accepted it as part of my past. In fact when I talk with someone from way back when and it slips that it comes out. I actually take it as a compliment as they have known and stuck behind me my whole life. Just being accepted whether something slips or not is just human nature and should not be taken to heart. There are bigger issues at stake.
Janice, Mississauga Ontario
12/30/11 7:08 AM EST
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Rejectfully
Boycotting an issue as this is important. we all get a chance to be a child and a chance to be a grown-up. it is the editors responsibility to be separate on all issues. to let fester an anger and sling your wrath on a guest of your paper, in a public manner no less, is a disgraceful act. The keyword being "Grace". no action on the editors part showed any decorum. Not an ounce of comprehension to his actions, not allowing for the dignity to be restored to the party. this boycott didn't start over entitlement, it started at the editors refusal to acknowledge obvious hate filled acts and remedy them with a simple apology. he allowed things to escalate by pursuing a screaming match with the writer who found xtra's guest interviewee. It started as he chose to negate his responsibility to the public at the same time he states in his article to be "the only voice for trans issues". I never heard of his pathetic paper until this issue surfaced. you are not the voice of this trans-woman. you are a man, you do not understand what I go thru. what it is like to hear your birth name used by every bank or legal authority while you know it does not reflect who you are and chose to be. You violated the trust of the trans community before some of us even knew you existed. good going mr editor. PS: I know your ilk, you think you are objectified by detractors because you are a victim of some past abuses. Do what I did, bottle that abuse up, hide it in your birth name then change your name to live a fresh and free new life. I would defend you if you did.
kate middleton, Montreal quebec
12/30/11 9:57 AM EST
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separate TBQ from G (L can speak for herself
Three issues. Did the childhood bully who tormented the young gay male ever apologize for their torture of a child? No? Didn't think so. Xtra is a gay publication obsessed with an outdated concept of something they call "sex-positivity" with filler surrounding this mission -- this filler includes LBT and queer stuff that fills the pages in between sex ads. It is time for Xtra to come clean and 100% separate from the trans and queer issues and come out as a gay male sex paper and let all trans and queer people go build their own papers and web sites (as they are). If you are not wanted, why pound on the door? Get out and do it for yourself. Xtra would be much more fun again and trans people would be free of yet more gay male oppression. Full separation of the T, B and Q from the G (and maybe L) is the only way forward.
Free the G!, Separatelandequalshappyland YK
12/30/11 10:26 AM EST
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Forward Thinking and Moving Forward in 2012
Good opinion editorial Tera Mallette. First, you state the concern expressing both insight and empathy for the harm caused. Then you seek to educate and create an understanding on trans issues and the importance of our inclusion. Finally, you recommend a possible solution which is forward thinking. I support your recommendation to include bisexual and trans people in Xtra's mission and title. Now we need to have a public conversation about how best to achieve this goal if indeed community members agree. Should we have a conversation on what is needed first like education, outreach, affirmative action practice; or should we change Xtra's mission to LGBT and then engage in the learnings to ensure its reflect the membership? For me, Xtra is our friend. Our enemy lurks in the struggles we continue to fight; SunMedia, Michael Coren, Charles McViety and the Institute for Canadian Values. Let us learn to work together so we are stronger in this important struggle. Thank you for your contribution. I look forward to what 2012 brings. Happy New Year!
Susan Gapka, Toronto Ontario
12/30/11 3:38 PM EST
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BOTS created in labs
@Free the G!: AGREED !! PERFECT SOLUTION: XTRA should become only LGB and TRANS people can run their own paper and website. I've had more than enough of the silly nattering arguments about petty TRANS issues. The world does not revolve around you. You can't force people to live your fantasies and idealisms. You are BOTS created in labs. You are not real. Yet, you are like mosquitos relentlessly buzzing around our heads. SWATT! SPLATT!
Real, TO ON
12/30/11 3:51 PM EST
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BIGOT_CHASER
MR.TRANSPPLWERECREATEDINLABSIFYOUHADANYBALLSSOTOSPEAKYOUWOULDGIVEMEYOURADDRESSSOICANSHOWUPATYOURHOUSEANDSHOWYOUWHATHARASSMENTHATEANDVIOLENCELOOKLIKEBUTIGUESSYOUAREJUSTTOOMUCHOFACOWARDSOIWILLUSEYOURIPADDRESS......OOPS.
BIGOT_CHASER, BIGOTVILLE ON
12/30/11 4:23 PM EST
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BIGOT_CHASER
MR.TRANSPPLWERECREATEDINLABSIFYOUHADANYBALLSSOTOSPEAKYOUWOULDGIVEMEYOUR ADDRESSSOICANSHOWUPATYOURHOUSEANDSHOWYOU WHATHARASSMENTHATEANDVIOLENCELOOKLIKE BUTIGUESSYOUAREJUSTTOOMUCHOFACOWARDSO IWILLUSEYOURIPADDRESS......OOPS.
BIGOT_CHASER, BIGOTVILLE ON
12/30/11 4:25 PM EST
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agent provocateur derails other POVs
Instead of threatening violence, you may want to know you were being played. Every time a trans thread has someone suggest a point of view about separating trans and gay, the same poster (with different names) posts about trans people being created in labs. They are doing this to shock, provoke AND most importantly to derail any memory of the serious topic of separating trans and gay issues. A very clever little trans or queer person actually who knows how to stop a thought by starting a fire elsewhere. It worked on you, bigot chaser, so well that I wouldn't want to know more about you and your violence.
real is not real, Toronto Ontario
12/30/11 5:25 PM EST
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A wonderful and beautiful perspective!
A wonderful and beautiful perspective Tera Mallete! I most certainly agree that a wording change in the byline is necessary, even if just adding the acronym of letters. It still amazes me how much hatred society can dish up when it comes to Trans issues; both in the heterosexual world and even in our own LGBT community! Of course it doesn’t help when the Trans umbrella is one of the most diverse communities in itself! On one end Transsexuals who were born in the wrong body, many being genetically an anomaly and do not feel to be real or true individuals until all surgery is completed, many contemplating or even attempting suicide if this doesn’t happen. On the other end there are those that just weekend cross-dress and then there is everyone in between. But many don’t know or even care that there are differences or that with all these differences it has never been about sex! It’s about Identity! Identities many of us were forced to live with when we were young, afraid to speak out from the ridicule, abuse and beatings many of us endured! It is no wonder we try to put the past behind us, it is why so many just stealth away. For those of us who try to make things better; we are centered out and verbally abused. The irony is that we are scientists, doctors, politicians, lawyers, teachers, people from just about every profession there is and we are all sensitive caring human beings! We deserve to be treated with dignity just as every human on this planet does! ..and yes Tera it starts with acknowledgment!
Davina Hader, Toronto Ontario
12/30/11 11:39 PM EST
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Follow-up: Second Recommendation
My second recommendation is to have these comment pages upgraded with a moderating system to protect people from rude and inappropriate postings by those seeking to trouble or disrupt a thread in a harmful way. It is imperative for Xtra to create a positive environment for those with less advantage to contribute. I am reporting 'BIGOT_CHASER' and 'BOTS created in labs' to the moderator. Once again, Happy New Year!
Susan Gapka, Toronto Ontario
12/30/11 11:47 PM EST
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Censorship policy
If Xtra accepts Susan Gapka's recommendation and adopts a policy to censor comments that are hurtful and offensive to others, then shouldn't Pride Toronto do the same to censor QuAIA's comments (which many find to be hurtful and offensive)?
Tim, Toronto Ontario
12/31/11 12:21 AM EST
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You are still men with fake vaginas and fake tits.
Squawk, Squawk, Squawk, Chicken-Ladies, Cartoon-Characters, Caricatures-of-women. You were not born with fake tits and fake vaginas and fake names. You are not female. You don't have ovaries, eggs and uterus. You do have a prostate gland --women don't. You chose to have cosmetic surgery to reshape your male genitals into vaginas. You are still men with fake vaginas and fake tits, living a fantasy. You are not a natural species -- you are Bots created in Labs. Make-up, wigs, female clothes, and high heels cannot turn you into women -- that's all just theatre. And it only sort of works in dim lighting. The people who convinced you that so called “Sex-Change Surgery” actually turns you into females, are monsters. Humans do not have that technology available yet. It is unfortunate that you were socialized to not accept yourselves in your natural states. Because, you were actually more beautiful in your natural states, just as you were born.
V, Toronto Ont
12/31/11 1:43 AM EST
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New paradigm of a female trapped in a man's body
If someone debunks a fantasy with plain truth --which may hurt some people's feelings-- why should that be censored? If you censor words which may hurt some feelings, then where does the censorship stop? And who decides what will be censored in the future? You too may be censored at some point. If XTRA is for “Freedom of Speech” for QuAIA, then should be equally for everyone. For example the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.com also criticizes Israeli policies towards the “Occupied Territories” where Palestinians are oppressed. Whose truth is the real truth? If someone claims that TRANS realities are just fantasies, then why should that be censored? What if it's true? What if this is the beginning of a movement to prevent more needless genital surgeries. What if this movement saves more people from needless surgery. A new paradigm of the female trapped in a man's body.
V, Toronto Ont
12/31/11 2:06 AM EST
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you have to wonder....
...about self identified gay and lesbian folks who care so damned much about disparaging and spewing hate at trans folks. The only viable conclusion is that they hate themselves....filled with an insufferable rage against their own gender variance from societal norms.
X, Tdot ON
12/31/11 9:27 AM EST
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Safe space for Xtra Message Boards
Tim & V, I never said 'censorship' - You Did! If you were actually progressive members of the Xtra audience of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, & Queer communities you would understand the fundamental principle of 'freedom of expression' and its importance to our struggle for sexual liberation. Many though prefer to spew rudeness and hate from behind a keyboard using a fake identity. Cowards you are, nothing else. Name calling and bullying is your game. I claim my right to face you in public. Until that time you have the courage to come out to face your target, I then respectfully request that Xtra create a positive, supportive environment for its community members. There are some better versed in technology to discuss potential remedies which balance 'safe space' with 'freedom of expression'. Until then, I can withdraw from this comment board and continue the struggle to acquire the rights and privileges other disadvantaged communities already have achieved. Put that in your New Year's drink and smoke it! Happy New Year!
Susan Gapka, Toronto Ontario
01/01/12 5:55 PM EST
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The role of a moderator
Further to Susan Gapka's earlier comment about a moderating system, Xtra could create a system like the Globe and Mail's website where a moderator removes offensive comments. In particular, the Globe and Mail moderator removes the offesive comment and replace it with a message that states "This comment has violated our Terms and Conditions, and has been removed". For example, see the comments under this Globe story: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/iran-reports-nuclear-progress-as-sanctions-loom/article2288382/comments/ While this type of moderation is still a form of censorship, it is a socially acceptable one. Wikipedia defines censorship as the suppression of speech or other public communication which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or inconvenient to the general body of people as determined by a government, media outlet, or other controlling body. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship Sometimes a censor is more like a referee in a hockey game than an oppressor.
Mark, Toronto Ontario
01/01/12 7:04 PM EST
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Ed's note
Hi Susan: We're in the process of developing a new iteration of Xtra.ca called Daily Xtra. Part of the architecture of the new site will be comment and engagement functions that provide meaningful incentives for users to share their ideas without hiding behind the veil of anonymity. I hope to see Daily Xtra launch sometime in the spring.
Matt Mills, Toronto Ont
01/01/12 7:14 PM EST
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Conversation Not Uglynation
Thank you Matt for your comment. Your feedback is most welcome. I suggest it best to leave the inappropriate comments on the board so that all can see the rude and harmful nature intended by the authors. I have witnessed a rise in homo/les/bi/trans phobia recently, especially via comment boards sent by anonymous subjects. I welcome the creation of a conversation on trans inclusion in media which would transcend to mainstream media sources. ps: Time for me to review the guidelines. I will seek a definition of 'defamatory'. This may also be an opportunity to review the guidelines to see if they are sufficient, although I would rather not review in response to the current environment as it may bias the process.
Susan Gapka, Toronto Ontario
01/01/12 8:48 PM EST
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Re: Ed’s note
Thanks Matt, I hope this is implemented sooner than Spring; at this point many of the comments from this article and others are no more than hate crime disguised as ‘freedom of speech’ against an already at risk community within an a larger at risk community. Giving comment for an Xtra news article or profile piece should not also be giving anyone the right to then target you with hate and insult in the same media with untruths, queerbashing, horrific assumptions and name calling under totally false pretenses! It will only serve to turn away the very people these articles are intended for!
Davina Hader, Toronto Ontario
01/01/12 11:56 PM EST
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intrusion on the right to freedom of expression
Justice Darla Hunter ruled that: “It is acceptable, in a democracy, for individuals to comment on the morality of another's behaviour,” she wrote. “Anything that limits debate on the morality of behaviour is an intrusion on the right to freedom of expression.”
V, Toronto ont
01/02/12 2:48 AM EST
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North Korean-style Trans Rule
Wow. She is elected to Pride Board less than 5 minutes ago and now she is kicking ass at Xtra with call for censorship, control and hysterics. Looking forward to the havoc coming during the Pride season. With Stalinists like this on board, who needs the right? By the way, when Xtra began this internet comments thing, it was moderated as tightly as North Korea. Anything deemed in anyway negative to any trans person was immediately expunged. This is what Kim jun-Gapka wants a return to. And anonymous attacks are not happening on LBG people, they are happening against Trans people by LGB people who are sick of the kind of entitled arrogance displayed by Gapka here.
the dead, Toronto Ontario
01/02/12 8:08 AM EST
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Ed's note
Hi The Dead: Actually the moderation approach on Xtra.ca has always been the same. Editors review comments reported to moderator and edit or remove those that are spam or that appear contrary to our understanding of Canadian defamation law. We have not traditionally edited or removed those that are simply insulting or that add nothing to the dialogue. Susan has a point: When there is no incentive to attach identity to comments, when there is no incentive to be out, a few prolific and cowardly commenters seem emboldened to write things they otherwise wouldn't. Ultimately this is a readers' forum, so those who participate have collective authority over the tone and quality of the dialogue. That is, after all, one of the elements of the democratization of media.
Matt Mills, Toronto Ont
01/02/12 11:55 AM EST
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enforced POVs always meet with anger
Matt Mills, those so-called not out voices are of two types, the loonies who are on every blog, and people who have politically not allowed POVs. If a specific topic elicits so many of these kinds of comments (see blogs such as bilerico where any trans issue has now had comments removed because of the storms that followed every post on that topic), then one must question the line between dissent (mean and vulgar as is the style of today) and repression of thought. If such comments are the tip of an iceburg, is the bulk of the burg mere loonies or perhaps an unspoken mass who know better than to ever criticize anything trans in public.
the dead, Toronto Ontario
01/02/12 1:50 PM EST
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Ed's note
Hi The Dead: I suspect there are many reasons people choose to speak anonymously, but I agree that a common one is likely a desire to defend against opprobrium. It does seem a little peculiar though to suggest that there is a silent but overwhelming majority that is afraid to contradict a tiny but determined group of non-violent trans activists. It seems more likely to me that the majority of which you write is simply not personally invested in trans issues, which seems understandable. There are similarly very few straight people who are outspoken on gay and lesbian issues. I have seen a few examples of trans activism over the years that have left me scratching my head: dishonest and imprudent tactical approaches that seem only to alienate allies, needlessly foment resentment, and fail to achieve otherwise reasonably attainable objectives. I've personally been accused of being trans-phobic and threatened with all kinds of petty nastiness for all kinds of reasons, but I haven't felt the need to hide my identity or keep my views under wraps over it. I've also met trans people who are apalled by the shrill pitch of some of those incidents. I've met and worked with trans people who are clear-eyed intellectuals, and people who I genuinely personally like. It seems clear to me that trans or otherwise gender-ambiguous people are on the whole treated unjustly in our society and that their issues deserve support, analysis, honest and constructive criticism, and attention. As a gay and lesbian publication, Xtra's work sometimes intersects with that of some members of the trans community, which is why we cover trans issues.
Matt Mills, Toronto Ont
01/02/12 4:59 PM EST
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Xtra is in for a lulu of a year
Matt Mills. Thank you for your intelligent and respectful response. The right of all groups to full human rights is never at question. All other issues are. I think the issue of Xtra being a gay and lesbian entity that covers trans events as opposed to being a trans entity will come to a head this year (just as it is doing at Pride). And you may then see the type of extreme behaviour that compels anonymity. All questioning of this "coalition" is read as 100% phobic hate like the right wing. We shall see what develops. Good luck.
the dead, Toronto Ontario
01/02/12 6:32 PM EST
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What is success rate of surgery and transition
Thankyou Matt for your honest statement. One issue refused by the Trans Lobby is to examine the success rate of surgery and transition process and who should and should not go through this process. They promote only the success stories: There is now a Trangrendered supermodel --WOW!; A New Zeland MPP --WOW!; Trans has become glamourous with the likes of Chaz Bono's media machine. Trans Lobbyist want more surgeries to increase their numbers. However, any surgeries are still risky and can go wrong. So, how many botched Trans surgeries have there been? How many have had hormonal complications from pumping female hormones into a male body where it doesn't belong? How many have had blood clots, heart attacks, as a result of their transitioning process, then developed breast and prostate cancer? How many have had depressions and suicide from the hormones and side effects? Well the people who had complications are not the ones we see out in the bars or promoting Trans issues in the media --they hide out at home. How many have regretted their whole transitioning process and wished they could reverse it all? They should start talking so that the more naive ones are not lured into surgeries that cannot be reversed. Just because some part of a Trans person's brain is more similar to a female than a male (Theory) doesn't mean they should have surgery. Underneath it all they are still living in a male body but now complicated with artificial breasts and artificial vagina and pumped full artificial hormones, which only rarely can make-up and a dress camouflage. For some life gets better and for some it becomes worse. Let's hear some reality along with the fantasy.
Joe, Toronto ont
01/02/12 8:19 PM EST
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Right On!
Susan, you are RIGHT ON! Thank-you. Peace out!
Kenneth, TO ON
01/02/12 9:18 PM EST
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Susan Gapka, Toronto Ontario
01/03/12 1:31 AM EST
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the “Iron (Trans)Lady” of Toronto?
Susan Gapka can sure end discussions (allegedly). Xtra survives on readers and commenters. A good controversy with lots of heated discussions brings more readers and commenters. Susan Gapka put a big threatening boulder in the road of this column and there haven't been any comments since. She very obsessive-compulsively planted the same threat into several long buried columns to try to lure allies for her cause (Allegedly). A shrewd political beast she is (allegedly). Is she going to do the same thing at Pride? Threaten people into submission? Is she going to take over XTRA? Is she the “Iron (Trans)Lady” of Toronto? Maybe her testosterone level is too high? Just asking... I hear that someone is making a movie about her (allegedly) -- a Bizzarro-Lois version of her as the Iron (Trans)Lady, Susan (Trans)Thatcher. As a public figure she should be glad for the attention. There is no such thing as bad attention... She's no Angelina Jolie. There are no Paparazzi chasing her. You are welcome Susan :-)
Natasha, TO ON
01/05/12 3:34 PM EST
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In case you didn't notice...
Natasha you should try scrolling to the bottom of one of these comment pages sometimes. That "big threatening boulder in the road" you accuse Susan of placing is printed prominently on each and every such page directly below the Submit button.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
01/05/12 6:21 PM EST
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Too many Rulers
The difference, Rich, is that Xtra and its parent are private companies that do not employ Susan Gapka in any way. Her posting of the rules, her tone and "announcements" about her changes to Xtra are arrogant, obnoxious and evoke a sigh of dread in many G and L Torontonians at yet another Great Leader complex "leader".
the dead, Toronto Ontario
01/05/12 6:24 PM EST
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There never has been a gay community
I can settle this pretty fast...as someone who came out at 15, what I learned then is still relevant: GLBT people have never cared about each other, trusted each other, had intentions of anything long term with each other, and probably would prefer to remain an anonymous, don't-call-me-again community. We have corporate fools who court us during Pride for one reason - to get their hands on our money, while the actual gay people insult each other, compare notes on who has more, tear each other apart...bullying? How about starting with the way gay people treat one another? 'It Gets Better?' Bullshit! We 'are there' for each other for the first ten minutes of meeting or until the next better looking, more affluent guy comes along. We have the social skills of a 13 year old girl and with the 'net, there is no incentive to even come out - so many guys look at what they'll be coming out to and no longer bother, because they see what's waiting for them - shallow, rude, emasculated men who don't have any confidence or kindness. We've spent all this time and money trying to educate non-gay people on how to be sensitive to us, all the while forgetting that GLBT people need to learn these simple things when it comes to how we treat each other. Unfortunately, most of us don't care, or after trying to become part of the community, have given up and moved back to the towns they came from. We know better than to act like this especially towards each other. This 'rich bitch' attitude has got to go.
Jonathan, Fort Frances Ontario
01/06/12 2:42 PM EST
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Baloney
Lexi Tronic has used her birth name professionally. Referred to her former birth name in articles. She used her birth name professionally in films. She worked on a national TV show. You cannot out someone who is already so far out she wears coat hangers for earrings. This fake controversy and using Lexi as a martyr is ridiculous and is creating more tension between LGB and Ts. You are throwing her back into the closet to make a point. Stop the nonsense already!
TJ, Toronto Ontario
01/08/12 9:22 AM EST
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Critique of the Brain-Sex Theory of Transsexualism
Hey Julie-Anne, The “medical fact” you refer to did NOT imply that the whole brain of Male-to-Female-Trans were identical to females. The study you refer to from May 2000 measured only a small part of the brain, the Stria Terminalis (BSTc). They also used a small and unrepresentative sample, not enough for statistical analysis. Most importantly, sexual dimorphism of the BSTc is not present before adulthood (approx age 22). So no one really knows if these neurons grew in greater numbers in males and half the amount in females, as a result of genetics or environmental influence or behaviour or hormones, or fantasy. The data showing the BSTc in MFT being half that of males and similar to females, may imply a diminishment of neurons due to administration of female hormones in adulthood. So what you call a “fact” is just a hypothesis or a guess. There are no facts only theories... A Critique of the Brain-Sex Theory of Transsexualism By Anne A. Lawrence, M.D., Ph.D. (2007) states: “The simplest and most plausible explanation of the Zhou/Kruijver findings is that they are attributable, completely or predominantly, to the effects of cross-sex hormone therapy administered during adulthood. There is no longer any reason to postulate anything more complicated.” www.annelawrence.com/brain-sex_critique.html
Natasha, TO ON
01/10/12 3:01 AM EST
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