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Wednesday, December 14, 2011

Response to a strange boycott

BY DANNY GLENWRIGHT - When I first read the name of Andrea Houston’s sex worker source a lump formed in my throat.

As her editor, I had been hounding her to find a sex worker for her story about violence against sex workers — ahead of the Dec 17 International Day to End Violence Against Sex Workers. I was not prepared to run such a story if it didn’t include the voice of someone who is affected by the issue. 

That’s the type of journalism I practise; that’s the type of activist I am.

Nevertheless, I was also more affected than I was prepared to be when I learned Lexi Tronic was that source.

In another place, at another time, Tronic was responsible for some of the worst bullying I ever received as a young, awkward (not yet happily) gay kid in Winnipeg. I recently wrote about my experiences in the pages of Xtra in the wake of Jamie Hubley’s suicide. This week I remembered writing that piece and thinking specifically about Tronic, who was the perpetrator of much of the taunting I recalled in it.

That pain came back when I read Andrea’s sex-work piece, just as it does every time Facebook suggests I befriend Tronic, with whom I share many friends from days we both spent together in Winnipeg’s gay bars and rave scene. I had never found the courage to befriend Tronic on Facebook — she is someone who unearths memories I’d rather suppress or forget.

But I also believe in second chances and fresh starts; I’ve had many. So I happily edited, published and shared the sex-work story on Xtra’s website, in the pages of Xtra, on Xtra’s Facebook page and on Xtra’s Twitter account. I also shared it on my personal Facebook page, with many friends who know us both (as the people we were all those years ago in Winnipeg).

I noted that it was a “wonderful small world” connection that our paths had once again crossed years later, stating (rather than mention our negative past) my best memory of Tronic, which was attending my first rave with her at age 14. I also said (no secret to any of our old friends) Tronic’s birth name so those friends we both share would pause to read the story. I won’t apologize for that. It was the only way to tell that story.

I was proud of the story and there was a part of me also proud of Tronic, who has gone from being a sex worker in Winnipeg’s dangerous north end to become a strong advocate of safe sex work in Toronto. I was happy to see her speaking openly on behalf of a marginalized community we have tried to champion during my short time at Xtra, out there doing good things, a person I remember as deeply troubled and unhappy. 

But the tenor of the discussion quickly changed and, in fact, any helpful, informative dialogue that could have come from this story turned into bad activism and knee-jerk bandwagon jumping.

I was once again being bullied, asked to apologize for being transphobic. “Activists” told me if I failed to apologize on behalf of Xtra for my transphobia, they would boycott this newspaper. The trans community would boycott a newspaper that is a lone voice for trans issues; and yes, these people deigned to speak on behalf of the entire trans community.

From the very beginning I was sorry if I had been hurtful to Tronic, and I have always said this. I did not know that using a trans person’s birth name could be so distressing — especially because several trans friends (and others I have seen interviewed) are more than happy to discuss their former lives and use their former names. It was a learning point. I am thankful I have now been allowed to have it. 

I understand the pain that must accompany many trans people on their personal journeys. I would never want to contribute to that pain and I hope I never have. I am not a person who wants my actions to hurt people at any time. I said this yesterday on the phone to Tronic, and she also apologized to me for what happened between us more than 20 years ago, something I’d long forgiven.

We commiserated about how we’d both been bullied, how we’d both also been bullies. Lexi told me how she, too, has often mistakenly referred to some of her trans friends by the wrong name (does that make her transphobic?).

We also celebrated the successes we’ve had that brought us to a place where we can have an adult discussion about these important issues — issues that are significant to both of us, and the work we now do.

But as a journalist I also question the idea that it would be considered transphobic to refer to a person’s known history in an effort to best tell their story. Many of us have painful pasts, whether we have changed our names or not; do we all then have the right to accuse others of discrimination against us if they refer to something from our past we’d rather forget?

Should all Xtra staff members (and there are dozens of us) have to make formal, public apologies in the pages of the newspaper every time they say something provocative, hurtful or divisive in their private lives, or on personal social media pages? I think not. If that were the case, we would have no room in Xtra to report on the important stories that have helped liberate our community for more than 40 years.

In my short four months at Xtra we have published several stories about the dangers faced by trans sex workers in many parts of Canada; we have doggedly chased after politicians and rightwing media for distributing transphobic ads; we have reported on how police and the trans community in Ottawa came together to raise a flag for this year’s Trans Day of Remembrance; we have reported on the federal trans rights bill.

I am ashamed for members of the community who toss around words like transphobic and homophobic as weapons, people who use these words quickly and with abandon rather than trying to impart lessons, change minds and educate. These words will soon lose meaning if they continue to be used in this way.

People I have never met, people who have no idea what goes on in my head or what has happened in my past, called me such names yesterday. These people decided I was wrong and Xtra was wrong before they actually knew anything. We were all painted with one giant transphobic brush and dismissed. The very type of reactionary response the queer community has been fighting for years. 

I ask these people how this is helpful in our shared struggle against very real, very active, very organized transphobia and homophobia in our society?

If only we could summon half the energy certain elements put forward in a bandwagon boycott yesterday to fight these real enemies, we might actually be getting somewhere. Let’s stop fighting each other and instead learn from each other, educate one another about things we might not know, and speak in reasonable ways before reacting in hurtful, destructive ways.

I hope to continue to contribute to this discourse in a peaceful, respectful, positive way. I invite Lexi and others to do the same. Let’s sit down and discuss some of these painful stories; let’s have open, frank discussions about what bothers us; let’s stop fighting each other and calling each other names. Let’s keep talking.

 

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:10 PM

You should just apologize. Your defensiveness makes you sound more transphobic. And no, having trans friends DOESN'T let you off the hook for your privilege and sloppiness.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:11 PM

The problem when we misuse some words is that we empty the real meaning of those words.

Misusing and abusing of the x-phobic words will only lead to be more vulnerable to the real x-phobics.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:24 PM

This is one of the poorest pieces of rhetorical writing I have ever read. I am actually totally confused because there is no logic to your defensiveness. You seem to be rhetorically spinning - - Clearly, you do not understand the critiques people made of you and your actions.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:02 PM

To the contrary, Enzo. Using 'transphobic' to identify Danny's actions only helps to clarify that they ARE 'transphobic' (or at the very least, unredeemably trans-ignorant) and to recognize transphobia / trans-ignorance whenever it occurs, in whatever form it takes. In other words, transphobia does not exist solely in the so-called "real" (read: 'extreme' or 'explicit') forms you imply above.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:07 PM

That said, this link has been making its rounds online:

How to Respect a Transgender (and Transsexual) Person
www.wikihow.com/Respect-a-Transgender-Person

It is work reading, understanding, and internalizing, particularly point No.7, which is most pertinent to Danny's response:

"Be guided by what the person tells you about their own situation, and listen without preconceived notions. Do not impose theories you may have learned, or assume that the experience of other trans people you may know or have heard of is the same as that of the person in front of you."

Be well.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:32 PM

I must say I'm a bit perplexed by this statement. For my part, I expected something entirely different... certainly something more constructive and less defensive.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:45 PM

This is an embarrassment of an apology. I think you vastly underestimate and underrespect the trans community. We were key players in fighting for the rights that we all take for granted today in the LGBT community, rights that we barely even have ourselves. Lexi has just stated that she apologized to you if she had in fact bullied you, but she did not actually acknowledge any incident of severe bullying.

And besides, even if she did bully you, it is an embarrassment, that you, as a grown adult, would drag up something from your childhood to justify disrespect to the trans community. You did not just disrespect Lexi with your remarks, you also disrespected myself, and every other transwoman with your remarks.

Numerous members of the trans and queer community who have done work for your paper, done interviews for your articles(that we should be so grateful for?) and will do work for you in the future, have expressed their disdain with your remarks. And those articles we should be grateful for being interviewed for? There are transwomen writing articles for numerous mainstream 'straight' newspapers, so don't kid yourself. Things are changing nowadays and we don't have to put up with childish insensitivities nor your inflammatory and disrespectful 'apology'.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:46 PM

I find the comment above...even IF she did bully you?
What the hell....I have been bullied and still am by the same individual that is now trans. If I ever had the chance to point out and humiliate him in front of his peers because of his actions I would totally. Disregarding facts that are blatant ignorance from within our community is a problem WE ALL HAVE. But lets think for a second the kind of work we do to move ahead...hmmm.
It sounds like to me we ALL get caught up in some type of hate to point fingers...at each other...instead of making a fucking stand TOGETHER. Dumb.
It is also an embarrassment that you would completely disregard bulling to stand up for your lack of respect...wow round and round in circles?

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:51 PM

You obviously still don't get your wrong doings and this is anything but an apology. To compare trans people you know(about how freely they may use their birthname) to lexi is just downright disrespectful. As a cis-gendered fag- I'm also offended by your actions.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:27 PM

i am not dismissing bullying. one cannot use bullying from over 20 years ago to justify disrespecting an entire community of people. it's really easy to accuse people of lateral oppression when you don't even understand that trans people are oppressed by NONTRANS people, and whatever bullying that might have happened does not change that.

bullying is what transpeople experience almost every day, from our peers, from people we don't even know. and having these absurd things said about our community is actually causing some transpeople to have emotional reactions. bringing up bullying to get out of exposing a transwoman's name? really? it's not tit for tat. that was a disrespect to our community and our identities. their personal drama has almost no place within this discussion.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:26 PM

This article mentions Danny and Tronic already had a conversation and they traded apologies. Why do people who are merely using this "issue" to ride a high horse deserve an apology? Ridiculous. Priorities are clearly not straight when instead of fighting the problems people attack allies.

"And besides, even if she did bully you, it is an embarrassment, that you, as a grown adult, would drag up something from your childhood to justify disrespect to the trans community."

I'm gay. If someone mentions that I bullied them way back in high school, does that mean they are homophobic? No. That would silly to say. Someone's sexuality and their other characteristics are separate.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:32 PM

Prior to this pseudo apology, the community had dropped it. Now this statement? This brings up totally different issues.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:20 PM

New Yorker here. Directed to this piece via Facebook, and it is confirming for me the stereotype that Canada is full of hicks, moose, and rubes. I love the trans community, am a savvy journalist, and it's obvious to me that this editor is naive, unprofessional and out-of-line. Double hilarity, btw, re: the comments on "good" versus "bad" activism -- perhaps I could invite the author to come on FOX News to explain how the Occupy Wall Street kids should just "get a job"?

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:22 PM

Outside of the trans issue is the Sex Worker issue. I work in the sex trade. My real real name is never to be revealed even though many people know it. I am often quoted in media and know many of those reporters personally and they don't reveal my legal name on Facebook or other social media. My job is criminalized in many ways and therefore -so am I. Revealing my real name could result in an investigation and charges. Although I appreciate Xtra and the support and enlightenment provided there about prostitution, I don't see how you don't see that this was a serious ethical infraction with potential life altering ramifications for the named person.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:43 PM

Thanks julieG, you're right on

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:25 PM

If this is any indication of how you acted when you were 14, I would have bullied you too. What a fuckin' punk.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:28 PM

Right on, Julie.

Also, when people are forced to face insensitive and discriminatory bullshit on an everyday basis (in part because the government fails to recognize their fundamental human rights and does nothing to further public understanding about their particular lives and experiences), you don't get to criticize them for wanting to address the ignorance that comes out of the LGBTQ community as well. Especially if it is coming from the editor of Canada's largest queer paper, which purportedly represents them. So please leave your offense and concessions at the door.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:27 PM

How, I'm so shocked by the defensiveness and anger in the comments that are being left to this. Danny, I appreciate your writing this piece with what seems to me a great deal of sensitivity and honesty about your ignorance on some matters trans. It seems like a lot of commentors are missing that you are in fact apologizing in this piece, for missing things like not knowing that it's not okay to use someone's old name without their express permission. I have also been called out in completely inappropriate ways, by people who completely misread and misquoted me, and I know that it is extremely hurtful and confusing. Consider me your ally in breathing into the hard spaces that that creates. I couldn't agree iwth you more that if terms are thrown around with an intention to hurt, they are going to hurt, no matter what group is doing it to whom. It is not constructive, and it is actually dividing queer community. it actually is a sign of immense privilege on the part of the accusers that they have the privilege to 1. spend immense amounts of angry energy firing back without listening, 2. that they attempt to speak for all trans people, or all trans women, men, or whatever, 3. that they have the time and space to do that because they're not working for money or spending their energies in efforts that are actually constructive. i commend you for your honesty and for putting yourself out there. it is so easy in this day to go around pointing fingers. it is a lot harder to let people be human, let them make mistakes, and have an actual conversation. mostly, it takes people being able to breathe, people who have enough love in their lives to accept their own humanity as well as that of others. as les feinberg says, fighting eachother is how the big guys win, and how we all lose. i haven't read the original piece you read, and so i'm basing these comments solely on what you wrote above. and on the comments below of course. good luck learning your way around being a fierce trans ally. we need allies, we don't need to hurt you to get where we need to go. all the best, me

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:04 PM

I ask these people how this is helpful in our shared struggle against very real, very active, very organized transphobia and homophobia in our society?

I don't know you or care about you, I don't know who Lexi is, I don't care what happened.

Just adding here: Dear gay people, NO need to EVER make a statement like this again in light of transphobia accusations. Everyone has heard it a million times. Talk about meaning nothing at this point.

Racism, sexism, homophbia, et al are very real and people enact them EVERY day, constantly. People get mad, and tell you you're doing it. Deal with it! That actually IS your education.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:54 PM

New Yorker here. Directed to this piece via Facebook, and it is confirming for me the stereotype that Canada is full of hicks, moose, and rubes.

Glad you could come here and confirm for us the stereotype that New York is full of jerks who have superiority complexes. As a 'savvy journalist', I'd think you'd have something real to say about the issue rather then just attempt to show off how smart you are.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 3:37 PM

" it actually is a sign of immense privilege on the part of the accusers that they have the privilege to 1. spend immense amounts of angry energy firing back without listening, 2. that they attempt to speak for all trans people, or all trans women, men, or whatever, 3. that they have the time and space to do that because they're not working for money or spending their energies in efforts that are actually constructive."

i think this statement isolated really speaks for itself. especially #3.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:36 PM

"I was proud of the story and there was a part of me also proud of Tronic, "...



You rely should stop jacking yourself off in your apologies

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:20 PM

Your apology is pathetic and you don't deserve your job

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:36 PM

I recommend that Xtra! do some research, consult members of the trans community and then develop guidelines/policies for working with and interviewing and writing about trans people. Go over the guideline/policy with your all of your staff members and include it in orientation for all new staff persons. This will help minimize offensive missteps in the future. And when a misstep occurs, simply apologize with sincerity in a timely manner.

I realize that the aforementioned measures won't stop the crusaders in the community from picking up the issue and running with it. But, it's a start.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:22 PM

Now you have defended yourself, this is no long people with "no idea what goes on in (your) head or what has happened in (your) past." Guess what, we still think what you did was transphobic and this explanation has only made things worse.

Did you really think refusing to apologize (I will not apologize for this) and saying you are ashamed of people that were upset with you was going to help. Even if you were bullied as a kid, that does not make what you did okay, you are an ADULT now.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:36 PM

Xtra! and Danny Glennwright seem to be willfully ignorant of what being a trans *activist* actually means. You don't get to call yourselves that while simultaneously denouncing authentic efforts of trans advocates to hold you accountable for your willful refusal to apologize and retract your hurtful use of language. What's more, you are blaming Lexi for your behaviour. Danny refused the trans 101 lesson which he is now "seeking," and has provided the red herring of past traumas in justification of maintaining his transphobia (yes-that's what it is). Previous accusations of bullying don't cancel out current public acts of transphobia, I'm afraid. Particularly when you have publishing powers that affect whole communities. Let alone, the fact you have compromised Lexi's safety as an individual.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:23 PM

DANNY GLENWRIGHT should be fired!

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 4:20 PM

"3. that they have the time and space to do that because they're not working for money or spending their energies in efforts that are actually constructive."

little do you know im sending all this angry energy from my 9-5 studio desk.

"actual conversation" involves sincerity. do you see any in this article?
no, all I see is defense.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:12 PM

I don't know how you can claim to be running a trans* positive publication and yet not know not to mention someone's birth name. That is one of the first and most fundamental things requested by every trans person I have ever met. It's barely even trans 101 it's just basic etiquette.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:49 PM

I see nothing strange about a call to trans people to stop giving interviews to a media outlet whose editor thinks it's ok to link a story about a trans woman to a mention of their birth name. The call to not give interviews isn't even so much a call to boycott, as a call to be aware of the risk involved in talking to Xtra if their editor thinks that referring to trans people who they've run interviews with by their birth names is in any way ok.

Also: "transphobic" and "homophobic" aren't "names" or slurs. Calling someone out on behaving in ways that are transphobic aren't acts of bullying. Someone's birth name, however, clearly is a name. Calling a trans person by it is an act of transphobia and outing.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:00 PM

Danny,

You put the legal name of a sex worker in the media. Think about the repercussions that could bring upon the person who trusted you to tell their story in a professional manner. This article wasn't about showing your old friends what became of Lexi Tronic, it was to tell of the dangers of sex work in the Toronto trans community. You even put her legal name again TWICE in this Non-apology. If you do not possess the ability to be objective in your articles, then you shouldn't be writing. Don't make something that is supposed to help people negative because of your own little personal problem. See beyond your own nose. This is about promoting safety for trans sex workers and you did something so unsafe to the person willing to give you a perspective.

Kane A us


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:58 PM

I was very relieved this morning when I had heard that Danny had apologized to Lexi about using her pretransition name. Then this shows up right at the top of my news feed, and I'm left feeling sick to my stomach.

Using a trans person's pre-transition name without their permission is never an acceptable thing to do, no matter what. If this was an accident, then the adult thing to do is to take responsibility for your actions, and seek redemption. The adult thing to do is not to act defensive, to blame the people who are calling you on your mistake, or to feel entitled to do the harmful thing you did.

This article has made me sick as a trans woman. I would expect this from a mainstream media outlet, who don't understand the effects that bringing up a trans person's past identity can have on that trans person, or any number of other trans people. I expect more from a news source that states it has all LGBT interests at heart. If you really had trans people's interests at heart, you would listen when someone told you that using a trans person's birth name is potentially triggering to the individual, outing them to people who may not know they are trans, outing them as trans to anyone who knows their birth name but not that they are trans, giving ammunition to people who look down on trans people, misgenders trans people, and is often used as a way to "prove" they are still the gender they were assigned at birth. If you really don't understand how hurtful outing someone's birth name can be, then maybe you should do some research into these trans people, and try and learn more about them.

Don't get angry at people just for telling you about the things you did wrong. Apologize and move on.

I am hurt, and I don't know if I can continue to read your paper anymore.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:36 PM

Yes you are Trans-phobic amongst other things That i wont mention your "apology" if it can even pass for one is pathetic and stating that you have trans friends as a justification of your action is right up there with the racists who claim to have black friends that they call the N-word. Just dont do it! respect all the colors of the rainbow. I predict that your continued arrogance wont last if you plan to make it past 6mths at xtra.
- sincerely this "bad activism and knee-jerk bandwagon jumping"

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:16 PM

When you do something that offends someone, whether it was intentional or not, you apologize. You definitely don't try to turn it around and put the blame where it doesn't belong.
If not even apologizing for your actions (which, FYI, were wrong), you should have at least apologized for the offense that took place and done whatever was in your power to right the wrong.
Shame on you.

Amanda ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:20 PM

Lexi Tronic has always openly discussed her brutal upbringing, a survivor of child abuse and child molestation and being bullied herself . I've known her for years , she admits "I was a fucked up kid I was eight years old, I did not know how to express myself" . She's always been the first one to acknowledge her downfalls and also extend her deepest apologies! Hey, Let's not forget people this happened 25 YEARS AGO! The person Lexi Tronic is today is an active voice in the trans and queer community . Her countless efforts in raising charitable funds for trans people in need is a glimpse of the person Lexi has grown to be. A wonderful , caring, kindhearted woman. A far cry from Danny's so-called accounts of her. I feel Danny bringing up Lexi Tronic's childhood is a shady smokescreen for him to not apologize for outing her former name and subsequently undermining her transiton . DANNY, when you mess up, you fess up. Any more negative dirt that you make into extravagant pieces about Lexi would just be considered slander . You're unaplogetic transphobic ways are obviously a mere sample of your arrogance and abuse of power. You think you write like an academic but you make yourself sound like a gaping asshole. If I were you I would consider resigning from your position as Editor as you're opinion is no longer something of value. Not with me. and Not with anyone I know, and anyone who knows Lexi .

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:21 PM

Ok. So you're not professional. You don't do your most basic of homework assignments. You're insensitive to everyone who's not like you, but you want to exploit them in your publication. You're a hack with lingering issues you've never addressed from your closeted years. You're an unapologetic, angry gay guy. We get it now. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:19 PM

I thought this editorial took some guts, and helps push the conversation forward. We should do the same even in the comments by listening to each other and working together.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:26 PM

So, did you mis-name because you didn't realize it was a bad thing and thought that was the "only way you could tell your story," or because you'd been bullied? Because to invoke the bullying history seems like you're trying to justify something you knew would be hurtful.

The issue isn't that a trans person's assigned birth name is "something from our past we’d rather forget," rather it is that mis-naming (as well as mis-gendering) is a tool used to preserve a system of oppression against us. It keeps us in line, and reminds us that our identities are ultimately the property of cissexuals. Trans people who respond negatively to such behaviour aren't bullying you, they are naming a system designed to treat their genders and their lives as illegitimate. That illegitimacy justifies all manner of abuse and oppressions hurled at us for being trans,

On the issue of bullying: A history of being bullied is a horrible thing, and I am sad that you or any queer kid had to experience it. But if we allow ourselves to respond to an individual in ways that engages the cultural oppressions that individual faces, we undermine the idea of social justice (whether that is dismantling sexism, racism, ableism, homophobia, or transphobia). By doing so we assert there are situations in which it is justifiable to be racist, ableist, and so on. This is a slippery slope which fuels the very oppressions we're fighting against.

You suggest, as I see many suggest when these sorts of issues arise, that we concentrate on real enemies, and real issues. I disagree. I don't believe we can sustain any movement without addressing the rot in its foundation. And if we're willing to engage racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or any of the ways groups are systemically oppressed just because we're angry or because we don't like the individual, that is the rot which will keep us from our goals of equality.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:14 PM

I find it completely intolerable that you would use a publication that you write for as the platform for your private therapy issues at the expense of an entire community.
If in fact Lexi did bully you as you say when you were 14, explain to me the context of bringing it up in connection to you being called out on being transphobic for irresponsibly using her birth name? What does one have to do with the other? That's what I really want to know because call me weird, but if I were left to assumptions, I would assume that you did it on purpose because you have a personal vendetta against her due to your unmanaged childhood experiences.
And that my friend is not only transphobic, it's bad journalism.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:57 PM

"a newspaper that is a lone voice for trans issues"

No, you're not the lone voice. The internet provides many opportunities for the trans community to speak for itself without having to rely on the "gay and lesbian press."

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:20 PM

Boycott ON!

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:21 PM

<shakes his head>... wow, this non-apology written by Danny was so defensive... all Danny had to do was apologize in a clear and concise manner and not address the boycott (even if he felt that the boycott was too much or unnecessary). Just a paragraph... something like this maybe... "I sincerely apologize for publicly stating Lexi Tronic's birth name on facebook. At the time, I did not realize the possible implications and harmful consequences with publicly stating a trans person and sex workers birth name without their permission. In the future, I will reflect upon the sensitive nature of birth names for trans people. This includes ensuring, in future media and promotion about trans issues, that I will ask any trans person featured in Xtra how they self-identify and what name they prefer to be made public. If I don't know their what name or names that individual prefers, I either a) ask or b)only use the name they have provided to the journalist." Is this really that difficult?

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Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:28 PM

Final comment... Trans and gender nonconforming individuals continue to face systemic oppression due to any number of social institutions and policies (schools, hospitals, refugee policy, etc) not allowing trans people to use their preferred name. Imagine going into a hospital and presenting as a woman only to have the service provider call out a masculine sounding name. I realize this isn't what happened here, but when trans people have to face this oppression in their everyday lives, I can see how many trans people think its important that they take some power back by being able to identify and name themselves in the way they prefer in spaces like QUEER MEDIA... like, lets say Xtra! But I guess not...

Ed ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:21 PM

Right on, Julie G, Jessica, Aleisha, Alex and a bunch of other folks.

It's pretty simple. You don't use a transperson's pre-transition name in journalism, unless they specifically give their consent and there's some reason for it. You just don't. There's a lot of very clearly laid out, easy to find information about why to do this on the internet, in books, in queer and trans resource centres, etc, but basically, if you want to respect a trans person's gender and safety in a transphobic, brutally violent world, you just use the name they use. You do so because not doing so can make them risk violence from family and community members who do a google search, or current people in their lives, for that matter; and because it's just shitty and disrespectful to someone's gender and life. If you fuck up and make a mistake and people are upset for very good reasons, you think about it, you listen to what they're saying, and you try not to do a knee-jerk defensive response. As a queer, cisgendered femme who has written for Xtra in the past, I am appalled that this transphobic article and non apology were both run. However, I'm unfortunately not surprised. I would like to believe that Xtra can change and shift away from being a paper that pretty much writes about white gay men with money, but I'm not holding my breath.

Also, if these are the kind of journalistic ethics you hold, I am not surprised you had a hard time finding sex workers who would agree to be interviewed by you.

Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:19 PM

I am apalled that this individual actually thinks that this is ANY kind of an apology! He reportedly has all manner of education and experience, yet he's more interested in drudging up those things from his past (that's if they occurred at all because he's shown his true merit as being deplorable already) that he's OBVIOUSLY gotten past and been ABLE to have some degree of success in his life...so obviously they weren't as horrifying to him as he lets on in this piece of what I will refer to as fictional drivel. This is NO KIND of an apology, and I'm not a hateful person, but when I see things like this occurring and the perpetrators trying so desperately to justify their insensitive, disrespectful and arrogant ignorant actions and words...sorry but they DESERVE to have that truck they're trying to desperately to back up, run them over completely! Way to go Mr. Glenwright...you just proved OUR point COMPLETELY! Dumb ass. BOYCOTT XTRA!!! THE MOST TRANSPHOBIC NON-TRANS ACTIVIST NEWSPAPER OUT THERE!!

Cathy ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:43 PM

Danny,

About a year ago, I dated this lady that thought it was okay to out me to all her friends I haven't met, as being trans. Do you think this is okay? I hoping you are going to say no. The reason I bring this up, is that one of her reasons for doing so, is that
'no other trans person she knew minded if she said anything'.

We are not all the same. Regardless if people you know are happy to tell you their birth name, a lot of us absolutely hate it. Why? Because it's triggering, bringing us back to a place we don't want to be. Because for most of us, no one knows that name, aside from some. So when something like that is published for all to see, without our consent, it's harmful.

I think you are embarrassed for what happened. Instead of seeing the fault, innocent as it may of been, you decided to write this. Being defensive about what happened isn't going to make things go away, it's going to further you from actually happened and the audience you are trying to serve.

Yes you got bullied, so did everyone. It seems through this writing you wanted to get back at Tronic in a super subtle way, and using her birth name without consent in a huge way to oppress someone.
You just became the bullier, congrats.

Does anyone really want to hear the reasons why the bully is doing what he does? Does anyone care what's going on inside his head? No, because the action is completely hurtful.

LookForTheDetails ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:58 PM

Someone that knows/known all THREE of you; Danny Gee I loved the story about Lexi Sanfino; more importantly I loved the fact that you shared your history with us about Lexi. I am sorry that this was taken so out of context. Lexi thank-you for being yourself and so open to us all!

Jasen ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:35 PM

This is all really disturbing and I am even more disturbed that this is how a sex worker was treated for doing an article around violence against sex workers. This is completely disgusting. Please apologize immediately and compensate this woman for the harm you have caused.

Tori ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:00 PM

It is really quite telling and a great shame that we, as a community, are so quick to turn on one another and vilify each other. It is also shocking how the real issue has become buried under all this vitriol. Danny has acknowledged that the major faux pas of disclosing a trans person's first name was not known to him. It is noteworthy that he did this on his personal Facebook page and was not acting as a mouthpiece for Xtra! As soon as he learned it had offended someone he removed the post. He also acknowledged that he has learned from this and has expressed appreciation for the ability to continue learning. Furthermore, he has expressed regret for offending anyone and made it clear that this was not his intention. For me, that is where the issue ends. We can all get up from our computers, go out there and fight the real enemy and the real battles in our community. Let's avoid allowing our community to disintegrate into in-fighting and name-calling. We're stronger than this; we're better than this.

Graphyte ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:42 PM

Danny is a dear friend of mine. His integrity, compassion, and dedication with regards to ALL human rights issues remain uncompromising. Because of this he has produced a body of work that is as inspirational and motivating as his actions are. I have also briefly met Lexi on one occasion and found her to be ravishing. The personal is political. Danny embraces this in his writing. The overwhelming response from the Trans Community reaffirms this. Now instead of boycotts, let’s aim for openness and discourse. I think we all know too well what it feels like to be unfairly judged, criticized, or misconstrued. It just pains my heart to see the degree to which it’s happening to Danny today.
Love, love, and hopefully some understanding…
X Katie

Katie ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:18 PM

tell you dear friend to keep his politics and so called compassion the fuuu out of one of the few major queer publications around, take a bite of humble pie and learn how apologize like an adult.

LANDON ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:34 PM

That's a lot of words in an effort to make this all about you. The fact of the matter is that referring to someone by their pre-transition name can be extremely triggering and it came across as extremely ignorant and disrespectful.

Being defensive about it isn't improving your credibility. Nor is touting Xtra as "the only source" for trans activist news in Canada like we should be grateful to even be included (that's fucked up btw). If the only source is going to treat us like crap, we'll make our own. It wouldn't be the first time the T has been left to advocate for itself.

LA ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:35 PM

This would have been great as a straight-up apology. But by making this about yourself, making laughable claims about Xtra, and tsk-tsking trans activists, you shot yourself in the foot while trying to remove it from your mouth.

diane ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:40 PM

I think the dialogue that this article has raised speaks volumes about the complexity regarding transgender issues. The author is speaking from the heart and is being honest and truthful. I commend his honesty and courage.

Andy ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:21 PM

BTW, can we also acknowledge that dragging the appalling story of gay teen suicide into this is absolutely vile?

alaska ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:25 PM

This is clearly not an apology. Cisgender privilege includes feeling entitled to call the shots on what defines transphobia and being able to publish it. I am very disappointed.

Ms Kittin ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:29 PM

Excellent writing Danny. Ignore those who clearly do not see the apology and keep up the discourse, it is what will truly bring the most benefit to all those involved. Bravo to you.

Andrew ca


Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:12 PM

Oh yes, thank goodness for cisgendered people leading the civilized discourse on transphobia! We wouldn't want those boorish trans people making a mess of it all. Bravo indeed!

diane ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:51 AM

Has anybody, in all of these angry comments and knee-jerk responses, asked what Lexi Tronic thinks?

Some of the comments are disturbing to me, especially if they are coming from so-called activists. You are firing hateful and spiteful comments to Danny Glenwright for something that he and Lexi Tronic have resolved.

In this piece, Glenwright mentions a phone conversation he had with Lexi Tronic about the saga. They spoke about it. He apologised to her directly. They reconciled. Can we stop blaming, hurting, pointing fingers and instead start discussing the issues at hand in a sensitive and constructive way?

Perhaps it is a good thing that this issue has come up because it has sparked a lot of debate on trans issues. It has educated me, for one, on its complexities. The more educational comments on this page have been enlightening to read, but the hateful ones are putting me off engaging with the topic at all. This isn't productive. I would like to echo Glenwright's suggestion - let's stop fighting, let's keep talking.

I have followed Glenwright's commentaries and editorials since he worked at Gender Links in South Africa. Every piece that he has written or commissioned has a strong human rights angle. I have always viewed him as an ethical journalist, so if he made this mistake, I'm sure he has learned from it and will put this lesson into practice. His heart is in the right place. Can we try to approach this issue with our hearts in the right place, too?

As it stands, the discussion is spiralling into a self-destructive game of name-calling and side-picking. Let's be more constructive and build on rather than take away from this important debate.

Mona za


Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:00 AM

I truly do not understand this statement," a newspaper that is a lone voice for trans issues". Seriously? Is this a claim, or a joke? Let's just call em as we see em, and not dig yourself any deeper.

Zed ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:48 AM

Saying "I won’t apologize for that" is not an apology.

Saying "I was once again being bullied, asked to apologize for being transphobic" is not recognizing that people had some legitimate complaints about what you did, and this line is a clear attempt to make you to be the victim, when it was you doing something that was inconsiderate.

Saying "But as a journalist I also question the idea that it would be considered transphobic to refer to a person’s known history in an effort to best tell their story." is again defending what you did and it shows you have not learned or heard any of the complaints people have made.

And saying "I am ashamed for members of the community" is again dismissing of any real concerns about what you did and is you attacking those that took issue with what you said.

You said you want a dialog, but insulting the people who are raised concerns about what you said is not how you have a dialog. Furthermore you show that despite the large amount of criticism, you are still unwilling to listen to the legitimate complaints people had about your actions.

JulieM ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:31 AM

Danny is speaking about dialogue here. He is asking us- a community of support, advocacy, and the challenging open question- to keep moving forward. The questions I would like to know are: how can we support him and this issue? How can we be a voice to the world? What are the small things we can do each day to raise awareness so the young Glenwrights and Tronics feel safe in this world?

I for one have felt called to action. Circulate Xtra now. It needs support and we are just the community to do that.

Chris se


Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:02 AM

I am one of Lexi's closest friends, and I HAVE talked to her extensively as to her feelings in this situation. the fact of the matter is that Mr. Glennwright offered an apology, and the issue was dropped, and then the next day turned around and wrote this terrible response. To those who are reading this and see some kind of enlightened dialogue about working together as a community need to go take trans 101 at their local NGO.

Alaska ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:27 AM

Wow, this is such unbelievably incompetent publishing. Since when is it Xtra's job to out sex workers real names? Think about the safety issues for one thing!

All I can say is I hope the senior editorial staff realize how bad this is and put measures in place to ensure it can't, happen again. Ever.

James from Sydney au


Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:14 AM

I am also Lexi's friend and I can tell you, Lexi was completely ready (even eager) to drop this issue and let it go, until this statement was released. You guys that are defending Danny's statement keep talking about dialogue. Okay, we're telling you: revealing a trans person's birth name without their permission is never ever acceptable.

That's dialogue, we're telling you guys something you apparently didn't understand. Instead of talking about that and trying to understand better why that isn't acceptable, you keep trying to demean us, or arrogantly calling us "activists" in quotation marks and the like? We don't understand our own issues? We're trans! We know what the fuck we're talking about... listen for once and you might actually learn something.

Savannah ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:12 AM

Never forget.
Never forget, that any disclosure of our past, can have long standing effects in the long run that arm those who seek to harm us... they won't forget, even if you do.
And those who disclose inadvertently today, doing it due to inexperience, amongst those you know, may pay a very heavy penalty in life later on, as the world we live in, does not shift to acceptance as readily as anyone would hope. Acceptance comes slowly, too slow... which is risky, always, to those who are like us, as 'trans' folks. (this includes all in the non-trans community of Xtra)

SDYue ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:04 AM

What troubles me the most is that the assistant editor of the major community publication hasn't given any thought to confidentiality and ethics around facebook. Trans birth names aside, posting the birth name of a sex-worker without their consent (for all your mutual friends back home to read) strikes me as deeply unprofessional not to mention grossly disrespectful.

Transphobia deeply informs the world we all live and it affects everyone, including community members. The title of this piece and the claims it makes about those who were upset feels dismissive and not in the spirit of the open dialogue that Danny is advocating for. The transphobia that exists within the community is still transphobia. To say that doesn't diminish the meaning of the word, but instead draws attention (very importantly) to the fact that trans people are still marginalized, even by well intending members of the community. Truthfully, disrespect from within the community packs a heavier punch for some than the hatred that comes from outside and I think that is fair. If a trans person is speaking about transphobia to a non-trans person, that strikes me as a good time to listen, rather than "keep talking." There isn't a lot in this article about the importance of listening to each other’s concerns and it seems pretty clear that the concerns of the "activists" who were hurt were largely dismissed. That isn’t to say that we all aren’t untitled to our opinions, but sometimes our opinions just aren’t that important. Like, for example, when a non-trans person has an opinion about whether or not it makes sense for members of the trans community to be upset. Perhaps then it really is just better to hear them out. Trans people are often accused of having a hair trigger response, feelings that are hurt too easily, or that they constantly make assumptions about the actions of other. Perhaps there is some truth, some of the time to these accusations, but there is also a long history (that sadly still continues) of vicious prejudice from nearly every segment of society to explain it. Maybe the most valuable way to respond to these hurt feelings is by listening and committing to creating a community that isn't constantly tripping over there own insensitivities and ignorance. I think that if we hear peoples concerns and can admit that we are all informed by transphobia, that we don't need to feel guilty or like bad people, that we simply need to listen, learn and move on, we can create a community that isn’t at odds with each other. A community that acknowledges that trans people have a different experience than gay men, who have a difference experience from lesbians, who have a different experience from bisexual folks, and so on. A community that acknowledges that these differences are valuable at that we all stand to learn from each other. This will never happen unless we can drop the defensiveness, get over ourselves and listen.

Lastly, if someone so high up at Xtra isn't aware of how to be respectful to trans people, and particularly how to “tell [a] story” without being disrespectful, then perhaps it's time that Xtra hired someone to do trans sensitivity training for its staff. We all have more we could learn in that department, every last one of us.

Nolan ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:35 PM

Lord people. The hysteria around this has to stop. Danny did say he was sorry for the pain he inadvertantly caused to Lexi. They spoke. They got over it. He does not owe the Trans comunnity an apology, he owed one to Lexi and gave it. His request for a dialog regarding Trans issues was a call to tone down the rhetoric and needless name calling and discuss the issues that effect us all, Trans or not, and come to greater understanding of one another. Danny raises some excellent points about ones history and how we allow ourselves and others to tell it. Why can't there be a discussion around that? Why is the only reasonable end to this have to be seeing Danny's head on a pike?

Paul ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:46 PM

So if Xtra had done an article on an anonymous gay man who wasn't out yet to, say, his family, and Danny outed that person to a few friends on his facebook wall without permission, do you think that would be acceptable? Especially if Danny defended that action by saying he did this"...so those friends we both share would pause to read the story. I won’t apologize for that. It was the only way to tell that story." ?

Savannah ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:35 PM

I am happy to see a very personal issue resolved, I am very amazed at both Danny and Lexi ....they have grown from a tight knit community in Winnipeg to plaform there own issues and activisms. Being who I am and Danny knows me and Lexi does too....I can relate to both sides of this issue very well..Its accually painful for me to see two people from the old scene on such a public stage being at odds, whatever the issues are , whoever wronged who , between these two people who know each other there should be an understanding....that your a bit more like family.....In the end you will both be better people from this and I know you will work together to help youth and maybe correct some of the problems that youth are facing. much love from a not too distant past

ARIANNA ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:37 PM

Seriously, at this point it is so clear that Xtra is not a newspaper for the "trans-community" or any queer people who are outside of the white/middle-class cis-gay norm. Xtra has so much work they need to do to be good enough for us and it isn't our job to educate them. I am just going to forget about Xtra and encourage the rest of the community to do the same. It's a stupid fucking paper that provides paychecks to morons. Let them eat their poo! Let's all go have a cupcake together instead. xo

Tori ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:36 PM

And for the record it is not a "strange boycott" people don't want to waste their time reading shitty newspapers.

Tori ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:11 PM

There is no outing. Just truth.

Randy ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:51 PM

Hi Danny

Lara Purvis here, former xtra writer.

You have been called out on something that is valid. You need to step up and apologise.

If you wish to speak on behalf of the queer community know that you don't out sex workers, you don't out queers (and that was Xtra's mandate as long as I was there) and you don't out trans people. Not in your stories, not on you facebook wall.

I'll let those with lived experiences tell you how that feels to them but perhaps you could take note of this lesson and offer a formal apology. And I would suggest you hear people on how to truly be an ally. There is no automatic ally status with your short association with this paper... which though it has a strong history shows itself to become increasingly problematic.

Regardless of your history with this person, people are telling you what you did was wrong. That for them that would hurt. You need to hear that and learn.... and maintain some integrity in this paper

LP

Lara ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 3:43 PM

You know this article is a big fat waste of time. Why didnt you just write an apology.

your actions are transphobic, deal withit and man up.

indi au


Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:35 PM

I was happy to hear dany had made the apology to lexi,but it sadened me more to hear danny talk about the bullying he received from lexi,and how he used it to excuse himself from his apology.bad journalism period.He needs to take a note of that and not use it as a therapy session.

alyssa ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:10 PM

When you work in journalism long enough, especially as an editor, you learn that when you make a mistake, you print a retraction and move on.

I'm quite surprised that Xtra would permit the writer to go on and on like this. A 50-word apology in the paper would have created fewer waves.

Danny - don't let your ego get you into a pissing match with the readers. You have to let these things go. Move on.

Greg ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:41 PM

Let's also not pretend that so much damage has been done by Danny, as the below link clearly highlights. www.xtra.ca/.../...tar_stages_a_comeback-7340.aspx

Andrew ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:39 PM

I notice that none of those defending Danny or trying to sideline the issue have addressed my question above. Ok, here is the truth about the situation: if Xtra! had written a story about an anonymous gay man who wasn't out and an editor had revealed that man's name on his facebook profile, I'm pretty sure this conversation would be entirely different. The truth is, IF DANNY HAD OUTED A GAY MAN ON HIS FACEBOOK PROFILE IN CONNECTION WITH AN XTRA STORY, HE WOULD PROBABLY BE FIRED BY NOW.

But since the person in question is a trans woman sex worker, no one with any power in the situation gives a shit.

That is the sad truth.

Savannah ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:19 PM

Dear readers,

Thank you for your comments.

Some of the facts seem to have been lost in this discussion.

• I have never outed a trans person or a sex worker. Lexi agreed to speak with Xtra about her life as a trans sex worker and provided photos and interview material.
• I have never used Lexi Tronic’s former surname.
• I never used Lexi Tronic’s former first name in an Xtra publication.
• I used Lexi Tronic’s former first name on my personal Facebook page in an effort to raise awareness. It was not used in a malicious way and I have stated to Tronic, and in this post, that I was not aware how distressing this could be for her.
• I have apologized to Lexi Tronic in a private conversation.
• Lexi has accepted my apology.
• I have removed the offensive post from my Facebook page.
• I have taken this lesson as a learning point and thanked Tronic for helping me to have it.
• I have used my personal experience to tell this story because it is part of the story.
• Xtra is using this discussion as a learning opportunity and we are hoping to continue a positive, respectful dialogue that will include members of Toronto’s trans community. Please stay tuned.

Danny Glenwright ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:02 PM

Danny you should look for a new job

Lisa ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:51 PM

Andrew FTW!!! (see about 3 posts up, and check the link.)

mike ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:56 PM

Because Xtra fucked up and printed her birth name without her permission a few years ago, now it's okay to keep doing the same thing?? So now anyone can do it, refer to her with incorrect pronouns, because Xtra did it a few years ago? That's exactly our point! If Xtra does it once, even on someone's facebook profile, it justifies everyone doing the same damn thing!!

Savannah ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:20 PM

nice mike. are you cisgender? i bet you are. my birth name has been in numerous publications in the past. but nowadays i don't want to hear them. and FTW? really? the broader point here is Danny is acting like a bully against the entire trans community. so no, you don't win. before, when he 'apologized' over the phone, it was over. this 'apology' printed in xtra, is an affront to our community and outright insults us. EVERY trans person i have spoken to is outraged by the response, more so than the original action. EVERY queer person i have spoken to sees immediately how wrong this is. maybe your ideas of reasonable discourse don't include trans people and our sensitivities.

Alaska ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:41 PM

I can hear it now on SUN TV: "We here at SUN found out more about this trans person from Gay and Lesbian news source Xtra... Xtra has revealed that [some trans person] used to go by [birth name]... ha ha what a funny story!!"

In short, if you don't trust SUN with that information, then it shouldn't appear anywhere in public whatsoever... in XTRA, on facebook, whatever.

Savannah ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:51 PM

Savannah, I think the point is that her pre-transition name (first and last name) appeared in Xtra in 2009. In this case, it did not appear in Xtra, but rather on the personal facebook page of an editor, and even then, from what I can gather, it was the first name only.

Some people just look for reasons to claim they are being wronged.

mike ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:26 PM

Yeah Mike, read how willingly Lexi accepted Danny's original apology (mostly her thoughts, related by me) and was willing to drop the issue, then re-read Danny's statement above and tell me who is going out of their way to feel wronged (by referring to something that happened 25 years ago!):

leftytgirl.wordpress.com/.../

Savannah ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:04 PM

And you have the facts wrong anyways: Xtra inappropriately used her birth name in print in 2009, then the editor inappropriately did the same thing on his facebook profile a few days ago, then refused to take it down when asked politely to do so by Lexi.

Savannah ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 6:00 PM

"Some people just look for reasons to claim they are being wronged."

i'll give you that one mike. but in this case, it's DANNY who is doing it by bringing up bullying from TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO in order to justify disrespecting the trans community. i've been transbashed by gay men several years ago, so i should just bring that up and bash that entire community about SIX TIMES as nasty.

another thing Danny needs to think about is how his remarks and allegations without clarification can be read as slander. I wonder what a lawyer would think?

Alaska ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:53 PM

it is not slander. slander is spoken. this is written, so it would be libel. and no, it is neither from a legal standpoint.

mike ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:31 PM

The xtra may bill themselves as a GLBT paper, but all who read it know that it is a paper for gay men. The Xtra has historically been transphobic, and mysogynistic. You have no right to talk about someones past, regardless of their history. Imagine working very hard for years for people to just see you how you are and one jerk decides to use your former name. Can you see how it will impact anyone who heard or saw you use it and how they will now treat her differently? Boo hoo you were picked on, and low and behold instead of taking a higher road you turned into the bully. Shame on you and Shame on Xtra for not deaking with this in an appropriate manner. By the way this is a major issue for trans folks, it is never your right to decide when, where, or who gets to know any of our past! Defenitely supporting the boycott of xtra. Trans people may not have a regular free publication, but with publications like Xtra who needs bashers?!?

Alex ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:09 PM

Slander was oral, Libel was written, now both are defamation and the old distinctions between the two no longer mean much in most, if not all provinces (can't speak for Quebec). To be defamatory a statement must be false, and it must also tend to lower the reputation of the subject in the eyes of right thinking members of society generally. If anything false was published, the possible resentment over prior bullying could mean the publication was with malice, which could lead to a higher damage award if there were litigation.

There may be a breach of privacy laws here, perhaps even an invasion of privacy. Journalistic purposes are generally exempt from privacy laws, but it seems this went beyond journalism into something more personal. A complaint to the appropriate privacy commissioner might be warranted if the subject wished to do so.

Publication of personal information about someone that places them in danger could also be something you could be sued for. The publisher would want to hope that nothing happens to the subject as a result of the publication. To put it bluntly, if you outed my kid, and they were killed as a result, I would most definitely sue you.

Leaving the legal issues aside, there may be a breach of journalistic ethics, as you don't out your sources I would think, but I'm not a real journalist so who am I to say? Doing so also means you may never be trusted by those sources again so I would also think it's not really a good career move.

I also don't see why any journalist would apologize and then write the longest "but....." that I have ever seen. It's hard to see any rational basis for that - it just stokes the coals back into a full fledged fire.

Of course, everyone should keep in mind that any time you talk to the media, you have to know they are a two edged sword, and one you are holding by the blade.

JT ca


Thursday, December 15, 2011 10:53 PM

Well, if nothing else, this thread is making me aware of issues I had never considered. So there's that... If nothing else it presents a great opportunity for opening some dialogue.

mike ca


Friday, December 16, 2011 12:48 AM

It's just Xtra being Xtra. I can remember the first article I read in this "publication" being about how Gays should disassociate themselves from the Mentally Ill Perverts who are Trans who are "sucking the oxygen" out of the fight for Gay rights.

It's better now than it was. That's not saying much.

Zoe Brain au


Friday, December 16, 2011 8:17 AM

I grew up on the prairies and lived in both Winnipeg and Regina and it's pretty much impossible for someone in a community so small to transition from one sex to the other without the entire community being aware of who they were before they transitioned. The use or revealing of former names is common and it's not transphobic, this situation was a simple misunderstanding rooted in the fact that being gay or trans on the prairies is a whole different ball game that many people raised in a larger city probably won't understand.

Nic ca


Friday, December 16, 2011 9:18 AM

Danny, you say you've never outed anybody and claim that you 'didn't realize' how distressing it could be for Ms. Tronic to have her former name splashed all over Xtra. (This, by the way, is something you could have avoided by doing some basic research, but you didn't make the effort, so here we are now.)

On the other hand, you openly admit to using Ms. Tronic's old name because you WANTED your former classmates to know her history. You maintain that this was 'the only way to tell the story' and that you won't apologize for it- something that shows that your understanding of trans people is too limited to get the basics right in your stories.

If you truly want peaceful, respectful and positive responses to your actions, start taking some responsibility when we point out your mistakes. Make a real apology and get educated instead of doing what you're doing here. That's the mark of a genuine ally.

N. ca


Friday, December 16, 2011 9:56 AM

"I grew up on the prairies and lived in bothWinnipegandRegina andit's pretty much impossible for someone ina community so smalltotransition from one sex to the otherwithoutthe entirecommunity beingaware of who they were before theytransitioned. The use orrevealing offormer names is common andit's not transphobic,thissituation was a simple misunderstanding rooted in the fact that being gay or trans on the prairies is a whole different ball game that many people raised in a larger city probably won't understand."

Nic: you're a fool. I'm from Alberta. It doesn't work that way at all. What a transphobic and stupid idea.

alaska ca


Friday, December 16, 2011 10:49 AM

OMG Nic... if we accept your logic, I'm pretty sure you could justify queer bashing and bullying as well, as long as it happens in the countryside and not the city.

After all, it's not really bullying it's just that "...this situation was a simple misunderstanding rooted in the fact that being gay or trans on the prairies is a whole different ball game that many people raised in a larger city probably won't understand."

Moral relativism = shitty politics

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Friday, December 16, 2011 10:11 AM

Savannah, really it appears that Lexi has been pretty good at highlighting her own history (and former name)herself (see the above article) when she wanted to. Did the 2009 article really use her name without her permission? Funny she hasn't asked for the article to be removed from Xtra's website but would insist that Danny remove the post from his facebook. What Danny did on his private facebook page seems less and less damaging once you see she has courted the media many times in the past. Sorry, but you can't live your life in the public spotlight for many many years and expect that no one will remember who you where. To call for a boycott of a paper and for someone to lose their job over this is an immense over reaction. To pretend that what happened to Lexi is in any way analogous to a closeted gay man being outed in the pages of gay paper is completely misguided. Lexi has chosen to be a public figure for the Trans community, to feign that any real damage occured by Danny's small transgression just rings hollow.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 10:28 AM

Lexi didn't write the article you are referring to, did she? No, she wanted her birth name to be removed then just as she wanted it to be removed now. Actually the main difference is that in the present she's in a better position to make it clear that this act is inappropriate.

Why do you guys keep referring to past disrespect as a means to justify disrespect in the present?

Andrew, I'm guessing that you aren't trans are you? What you don't understand is how trans people are disrespected in print all the goddamn time, and the fact that even queer media does the same thing is used as a justification for rightwing assholes to misgender us and publicly ridicule us. You think it's not as important as outing a gay man because it doesn't personally affect you.

All we were saying with the boycott is that if Xtra editors can't respect us, then they don't deserve to have our participation. So in that case we wouldn't comment for them any more in their stories, and we would find our own means to tell our own story. Why is that an over-reaction? Mainly I think it's because you don't care in the first place.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 10:24 AM

@Nic. I live in Alberta, a cisgender straight who works closely with the glbt community and I can tell you you're wrong on your assessment on how we're different. Yes, everybody gossips but it does not make it ok or acceptable to out gay and trans folks, especially not their past. If anyone cared enough to learn, that's basic knowledge of trans 101. YOU DO NOT EXPOSE A TRANS PERSON'S FORMER NAME AND YOU DO NOT OUT THEM. For anyone to think it's ok to do so it's ignorant and transphobic.

When Mr. Glenwright discussed Ms. Lexi's past and exposed her former identity on his Facebook page, which he excused it as his private page, he was gossiping, a conduct unbecoming of a "journalist". He abused his power as an editor with intimate knowledge of the subject of an article. I'm glad he apologized for it and it should've been dropped until he decided to make excuses for his action. Any apology that follows with a big fat BUT cancels the apology portion of the dialogue.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 11:13 AM


So I've read through much of the response and through the "article" and I have to say I'm not the least bit surprised.
It's a laughable to suggest that xtra as a whole is fully supportive of people born with transsexualism. Over the past many years of reading through xtra I've seen instances of where people were misquoted or had words twisted. I say that because I have personally known some of those in the past who had been interviewed only to see words or terminology worded/written not as was said by them.
It's more, in my mind, about arrogance and ignorance then about phobia of people born with transsexualism.
The arrogance is that, we are doing you a favor mind set that so many, not all, of the writers and editors wear on their sleeves. The ignorance in not even considering taking time to learn what is proper and what is not, when it comes to speaking about one's past, be they sex worker, born with transsexualism or both combined. And again arrogance to then not be willing to see why you were wrong in your selfish actions in outing a person.

Imagine the danger one is put into by being outed in a paper. It's bad enough seeing the Sun do it but then one knows what they are dealing with if they make the mistake of speaking with them on a personal subject(though I suspect in this case even they wouldn't have done this).

But a so called allied paper outing someone, placing them in danger, putting them into the target of the police eye and then trying to justify why they were right in doing so takes the cake.
Is it a wonder that some aren't willing to talk with your paper when it has no ethics? This makes it clear now that xtra has zero feeling of responsibility to protect a sources personal privacy and basic rights. And no Zoe, xtra isn't really any better now then it was when I first read through it in the 90s. And it's rather sad using the "it's just xtra being xtra crap. At a time in Ontario when bullying has been brought right to the forefront, when the government has finally weighed in with a tad stronger bill then was there before to help stop it from happening in schools, to see it happen in a queer paper is disgusting and it's no wonder the right wing zealots love to use it to attack queer rights. And don't kid yourself cause I've heard McStupid and his band of twits do it too many times now.

Just xtra being xtra. Well what do we all think when a bunch of boys are bullying the kid they think is gay?
Do we accept the, "it's just boys being boys"?

No this is just pure "getting my own back" and nothing less. That's the true reason for publishing the name.
Pure arrogance, ignorance and bullying one up man ship. Well Danny I sure hope you feel better about yourself now. And if something happens to her, in anyway, I hope you know who was to blame.

I'm thinking that if you don't want your personal information published in this paper, regardless of where you fit in the queer spectrum (or even if you aren't), don't interview with these people. They have now made it clear that trust in keeping you or your information safe isn't part of their policy.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 11:12 AM

I appreciate Danny’s clarifications. They are clear and not defensive (finally!). They do however require continued clarification. First, I’m still not clear what Danny apologized about. He stated in his clarification note “I used Lexi Tronic’s former first name on my personal Facebook page in an effort to raise awareness. It was not used in a malicious way and I have stated to Tronic, and in this post, that I was not aware how distressing this could be for her. I have apologized to Lexi Tronic in a private conversation”. However, in his initial response he said this “I also said (no secret to any of our old friends) Tronic’s birth name so those friends we both share would pause to read the story. I won’t apologize for that. It was the only way to tell that story.”. Please clarify – did you apologize for posting Tronic’s birth name or did you not? And if you DID apologize, then what did you apologize about, if not for posting Tronic’s birth name on your facebook wall? It is not the people who are writing comments who are misguided on ‘the facts’, but Danny seems to be contradicting himself. I would also argue that Facebook is not as ‘private’ as one might assume, haven’t most of us heard of people getting fired from their jobs or failing classes because of what they posted on facebook? Any one of Danny’s friends could have taken Tronic’s birth name and told anyone else they knew. This is more than possible, especially given the historical conflict between Danny and Tronic and because they themselves aren’t facebook friends.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 11:24 AM

"The xtra may bill themselves as a GLBT paper, but all who read it know that it is a paper for gay men."

That's factually incorrect. Xtra DOES NOT bill itself as anything other than "gay and lesbian press." Xtra has shown no interest in adding trans communities to their mission. Is this problematic? Fuck yes.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 11:39 AM

It's barely even trans 101 it's just basic etiquette.

Actually, it's very much an "insider" rule that would not be obvious to someone who hasn't spent time with trans people. I certainly made the mistake before I was set straight, and I'm "under the trans umbrella"! Outside of specifically trans circles, if anyone mentioned having changed their name (and to someone not in the know, identifying yourself as trans - if you *choose* to do so in the first place! - is basically saying that), what the previous name had been would be a pretty obvious follow-up question. It's a natural human curiosity. Heck, I even once had a little coffee table book dedicated to the former/legal names of celebrities.

Now, obviously most of us here know there are reasons why naming is for many transfolk bound up in a particularly painful way for many trans people in all kinds of baggage about identity, identities which most trans people have likely had disrespected on many occasions. But it's one thing to say we expect more than Trans 101 from queer periodicals - it's quite another to pretend as if not asking about former names is just some obvious common courtesy that any polite person would just magically know not to do to anyone, cis or trans. Own your issues, instead of projecting them onto everyone else. It's okay to say "This is disrespectful to me" instead of pulling random "rules of etiquette" out of your ass: the existence of this "obvious common courtesy" would be news to Peggy Post! In most cases, a journalist who *didn't* ask the question would be "sloppy"!

Let's face it, if all the basic points of "Trans 101" (like not asking about birth names) were just self-evident, we wouldn't need to teach Trans 101. We could just say "Be respectful to people." The fact is that there is no one-size-fits-all respect, and trans people have particular needs in order to be respected - needs that the average tedious Hollywood starlet de la semaine giving an interview does not share. But it would be as wrong to universalize trans people's experience onto that interviewee as it would be to extrapolate hers onto transpeople.

Many more people will be amenable to following your cues on how to address and interact with you if they aren't afraid you're going to bite their head off for not guessing your in-group mores without prompting. If you're going to test people instead of openly communicating your perspectives and needs, don't feign crocodile-shock or offence when they fail your test.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 12:16 PM

"Xtra | Canada's gay & lesbian news" <----- What about Trans communities? Why are they being excluded?

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Friday, December 16, 2011 12:35 PM

@Geoff,

You want to talk about journalistic standards? Fine. In this day and age, nobody needs to 'guess' how to be respectful of trans people. There are a lot of Trans 101 resources available, and some of them are even directed specifically at journalists. Not doing enough background research to avoid making this sort of newbie mistake (especially when you know that trans issues are sensitive) is sloppy journalism.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 12:46 PM

Geoff, what you're ignoring is that Lexi did ask Danny politely and privately to please take her birth name off of his facebook wall. He point-blank refused that request, even though she explained the reasons.

Are you suggesting that when non-trans people disrespect us, we should always just politely accept being disrespected? If we ask politely and they ignore us, what do you suggest then?

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Friday, December 16, 2011 12:44 PM

Well it appears that Lexi was perfectly comfortable having her birth name in Xtra 2 years ago since she did not organize a boycott of Xtra then or work very hard to have that offending article removed. No she was so outraged with Xtra that she happily participated in another article that featured her 2 years later! So much for past disrespect! As far as an overeaction, indeed immediately calling for someone to lose their job and a boycott rather than engaging in dialog is exactly that. "And if something happens to her, in anyway, I hope you know who was to blame" REALLY? for posting a former first name that she has readily talked about in the past on a private facebook page? This is a hysterical overeaction. The Trans people posting here need to look and see who their real enemies are....it is not Xtra or Danny.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 3:48 PM

This is simple. 1) unless you have permission, you DO NOT "out" anyone simply because you can. Doesn't matter if they're gay, bi, lesbian OR trans. You don't use a Trans person's former name without their DIRECT PERMISSION. Period. You don't get to act like the victim here, Mr Glenwright, as it was YOU who directly and in a PUBLIC FORUM, outed Ms Tronic without her permission. Contrary to your opinion, Facebook IS a public space. NOT a private one.

Then again, historically speaking, both Mr Glenwright AND Xtra have been anything BUT considerate of Trans issues. I suspect it goes right to the heart of the fact that the gay & lesbian sides of the community, have all too many people in them that just WON'T get it. There's what I would call a deliberate attempt by these communities to alienate the "BT" of LGBT. It's pervasive, obvious and regardless of the petty BS excuses made to cover the collective asses of those who discriminate, it's not acceptable.

Then again, whether in print (XTRA) or online (blogs, facebook), it's not like it's a new thing that people think that asking forgiveness is somehow more appropriate than simply taking a few minutes and clarifying with the individual(s) as to things like correct terminology, correct pronouns and what is acceptable to print and what isn't.

Clarification isn't a priority for some. A half assed "I'm sorry you're offended" line, isn't an apology. It's an insult that puts EVERYTHING on to their victim, refusing any and all actual responsibility themselves.

As usual.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 3:25 PM

I read Nic's comments regarding small communities... And being outed. First off, Neither Winnipeg nor Regina are "small towns". They're cities. Where one can be outed & expect no one to notice. In a truly small town (I live in one that has just over 1000 people total), being outed as trans, can literally be a death sentence. The list of dead every November 20th Trans Day of Remembrance bears that out. For those who aren't killed, they face intense hate, discrimination and fear. It's much easier to hide who you are & what you're doing in a population of 170 000 to over 600 000 as with Regina & Winnipeg respectively, than a town where the entire population is less than that of a poorly attended NHL hockey game.

While revealing names may be common, it's still out of line. It's still outing someone without their permission and it's still highly transphobic behaviour, despite Nic's assumption to the contrary.

If you don't have direct permission from the party involved, you DON'T DO IT. Ever. Period.

As someone who has been outed in a small community before, I know the risks. Only someone with either an extreme ego or no actual experience living as trans (or point in fact as a Trans woman, given Trans men are seen by society as "striving for improvement", something our misogynistic culture doesn't reflect back on Male to Female Trans people) in a small town would say.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 4:21 PM

I worked closely with Danny a few months ago as a freelancer for Xtra. And I can promise I won't do it again. He's a damaged person with an agenda. If he were so sorry, he'd just say it without the drama.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 5:10 PM

I found Danny's apology not even remotely genuine . I'm also a Winnipegger here and I happen to know both Danny and Lexi. Danny , you point out that Lexi was a bully, but fail to acknowledge that you were a bully for most of your adult life in Winnipeg when you were on a high horse being a drug dealer, poisoning the community - making fun of others in the gay community was a recreational past time for you (and i know this because I've been on the receiving end of your vile tongue! I'm glad to see that your ways have changed and that you're now a "activist" and consider yourself a voice for the trans community. There are alot of skeletons in your closet . As I do recall, you were the most heinous bully of them all. Anyone who knows how to use Google can find out Lexi's former name. I think however is the point thatyou are missing - She does not want to be called by it, even if you are trying to use it to bring "awareness" ! The only awareness you have created is that you're still that bully .

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Friday, December 16, 2011 5:12 PM

Isn't it interesting that on Lexi Tronic's personal website satanictannyslut.com she links to the very xtra story that apparently pains her so. www.satanictrannyslut.com/Lexi_Tronic/home.html

Check 'media'

The very story that she is so upset over, she seems to be quite happy to share with her followers.

And Junebug, it seems to me that Glenwright did mention in his post that he was also a bully in his past and he did say he and Tronic spoke about that. I believe by bringing up aspects of his past in order to bully him you can also be placed in the category of bully.

I think this story has come to an end. An unfortunate end for Tronic, who looks like a big old bully and hypocrite at the end of it all.

I'm just happy if people have learned from it. It seems xtra is the real winner for their attempt to make this a learning lesson and not get down and dirty with other nasty insult-hurling that has gone on here.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 5:09 PM

I just thought I should post that there is a link on Lexi's page to a previous Xtra article from 2009 where she uses her male name in and she doesn't seem to have any problem with that article. Just look under the "media" section where she links to the article herself.

http://satanictrannyslut.com/Lexi_Tronic/home.html

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Friday, December 16, 2011 6:31 PM

That website is not run by lexi but rather by a fan. She has asked the person who runs the site to remove that link for these precise reasons for a while, and he has refused to change anything. So lexi is not responsible and that article is another sore spot. in the article she does not personally use that name, the writer does. If anythimg this just illustrates further the kind of risks inherent in using our old names. It continues to harrass and oppress us. What you are pointing to is not evidence as to how she is ok with it, but rather how pervasive and far tea reaching the damage can be. For some time she has been trying to get the author of that website to take it down, so that she can avoid further association.

And besides. That is not why this matters to us in the trans community. What matters is the disrespect shown after we thought it was quickly dealt with. All I see in Danny's support are justifications for disrespecting us, for ignoring our very valid and impersonal complaint. Danny asks how we deign to represent the trans community, but right now I see tens of us responding, voicing our offense. Facebook has many trans people, cisgendered queers and even heterosexual allies criticizing this apology, not anything to do with the small altercation that started it. All of these justifications might have held water when it started but this 'apology' is the issue now. if lexi were not my friend and Danny was, I would kick his sorry ass to the curb for posting this. The young cisgender gay men who hear about this and respond with concern about their community's rampant disrespect for us and our long difficult struggle remind me that even if your kind are the majority, you are still wrong. Slavery was wrong thousands of years before it abandoned in most the world, homophobia has been wrong since before the Roman empire rose, and transphobic insensitivity is wrong right now, even if you don't care. When I am old and your kind of insensitive middle aged gay male attitude is now that annoying shit your grandpa says, and transpositive straight youth school you with their support and understanding(its already starting), I will remember this as a great representation as to how rude and boorish the cis community can be.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 6:46 PM

So let's all boycott Lexi's website.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 8:33 PM

I wouldn't mind if any of the trans speaking here would post some links to information they think would be helpful to educate the community. Yes, we can all google, but there is so much information out there maybe you could point us towards what you would feel is of better quality. All this bickering isn't really helping anything and we all know the feeling of discrimination, so maybe some education for those who are willing to be open minded would be a better direction for these comments. Every gay, bi, lesbian, trans, or what have you should be at least open to that.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 8:20 PM



www.transmediawatch.org/guidance_approaches.html

though this is from the UK it still makes sense. where it refers to laws being stacked towards the transgender individual, be aware that it may not be entirely irrelevant in canada. there have been situations where an old name was censored with the argument of endangerment.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 8:08 PM

Funny how fast the article got removed from Lexi's website once Xtra wrote about it.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 8:01 PM

"Funny how fast the article got removed from Lexi's website once Xtra wrote about it."

to clarify, she confided with me that it was removed by the fan who made it, because she renewed her pressure on him to take it off and in light of the controversy he chose now to honour the request.

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Friday, December 16, 2011 8:53 PM

[I'm posting these comments here from where I made them on the newer story].

Regarding Xtra's 2009 column, I want to clarify this point a bit. Lexi did indeed write to the author of the article and thanked that person for writing it. However she never explicitly stated anything about that person using her birth name in that email. I talked to Lexi about this in more detail and what happened is she did kind of hesitantly go along with that at the time, but she changed her feelings about that quickly over time. This is one of the complications of being trans though, if you slip up or a journalist slips up just once, that point is always used against you moving into the future. However, I should have spoken more carefully to this point on the other thread and confirmed my statement. I apologize for misspeaking about this. (But then again, when I apologize I do it unambiguously without adding insults into my apology).

Also regarding the website (www.satanictrannyslut.com/Lexi_Tronic/home.html ) that is a FAN WEBSITE that Lexi has absolutely no control over. She has asked that person multiple times to have the media link taken off and finally that has been honored.

Finally, regarding consent in 2011: Technically Xtra did have consent in 2009, that point should not be contested further (though the context should be kept in mind). However, in 2011, Mr. Glenwright posted Lexi's birth name on his facebook wall without Lexi's consent. Lexi then went and politely and privately asked him to take this down (for one thing, she doesn't want people in Winnipeg to think it is okay to call her by this name). Mr. Glenwright point blank refused this request. Even after he apologized to Lexi on the phone for having posted the information, he still failed to take down the facebook post until the next day, when Lexi called him a second time and pleaded with him to take the post down. Hence, there is no argument that in 2011 Lexi's birth name was posted on Facebook without consent, and even after being asked to take the information down, Mr. Glenwright refused. Those are just the facts of the situation.

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Saturday, December 17, 2011 9:56 AM

Xtra has published an article dealing with this controversy here:
www.xtra.ca/.../...t_sparks_controversy-11252.aspx

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Sunday, December 18, 2011 4:40 AM

Lexi's statement on this issue:

leftytgirl.wordpress.com/.../

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Sunday, December 18, 2011 9:05 AM

I've read many of the comments here. I've read Lexi's statement & the apolgy from Mr. Glenwright. No one has the right to disclose anything about anyone on FB without explicit permission-that's just common curtesy...in it's simplest form. Getting more into the "outing" of a trans person by sharing that individual's past name (& therefore gender presentation) is dangerous, not just rude! Facebook is open to anyone! Any transphob who has some kind of chip on his/her shoulder against transfolk & is of a violent nature, could find stated outted person & be very dangerous to that person! Where is the sensibility to this? Mr. Glenwright is a gay man-he should know of these dangers. In his apology, I got the distinct sense that he really doesn't think there is a true need to apologize, just is sort of going thru the motions due to pressures. His actions appear to me to be a subjective vindictive means to "paying back" Lexi for her past bullying actions when they were both younger. Grow up Mr. Glenwright & be a responsible reporter!

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Sunday, December 18, 2011 11:23 AM

Danny Dude, get a grip FFS. Are you an adult or a winy little child?
The past is what it is past, gone you have to let go. Letting go of the past and forgive you’re past oppressor is the single most life enhancing thing you can do. Holding on to the past like that is only poisoning your future; its acts like some ball and chin slowing you down every day. Give up that pas the hurting and the negative. To day is what counts, and by holding on to past grudges you’re only in the present increasing the bad.

I used to be bullied really badly in primary school, not because I was trans or gay or any thing, just because they had fun doing it. Not only was I called names, but got beat up pretty much every week and I was lucky if it was only once per week. It stopped when I was able to defend my self, when they where no longer able to inflict pain with their punches or name calling because I had grown numb to every thing. Not only that but my big brother as to be my biggest bully the one I could not get a way from when we moved or when I changed school. I could to day hold a grudge like you. But then when I go see my family and my brother would be there?? It would be hard for me to go see my parent as xmas cause my bro is there too or any other family gathering would be awkward, then I could opt to not go when my bro is at my parents. But then that would only punish my parents, my children who love their grandparents and cousins (my bro’s children). I decided long long ago to forgive them all for my sake, for my own good. S I can live on and be able to go forward and not have this pain and bad memories hunt me and slow me downs and mark the rest of my life.

Learn to forgive and let go for your own sake.

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Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:14 PM

I find it really disingenuous that Danny is here talking about the need for "dialogue," yet we learned today from Lexi's account that when she approached him about the issue, not only did he ignore her request to remove her birth name from his profile, then he BLOCKED her from contacting him on facebook and he initially refused her calls.

I think it's a funny thing to talk about the value of dialogue when you actually and actively refuse to listen to what someone is saying.

(I honestly didn't realize this point myself until Lexi sent me her account. This has erased all doubts in my mind about what is really going on here).

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Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:06 PM

I think you did a fairly decent job of trying to explain yourself, but from reading her response, I'm confused as to why you didn't just remove the name, and as to why you would have blocked her on Facebook.

I appreaciate when you say you've learned things, but I think you need a greater respect for the individuals you are interviewing. Being a good reporter does not necessitate publishing unconsensual personal history.

Also, you state you'd already forgiven the bullying but you brought it up! Lots of people do stupid things when they are young (and old). The point is to try and recgonize and move forward. In your case, as an adult, it would have been to remove the name out of respect. At this point it would be to simply apologize for your reticence to do so. Trying to explain it away via "good reporting" does not work. We are a queer community (that, as you say, should be working together), not the general public where details are shared without consent.

Finally, I agree that sometimes words can be thrown around too easily... but if you think you can just post a person's former name (even after they've asked for it removed), I do think that's cissexist or transphobic or whatever you might want to call it. That doesn't mean you are a massive transphobic individual, it just means that the particular action can be labeled that way.

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Sunday, December 18, 2011 12:07 PM

As a member of the trans community, I am appalled at the behavior of someone who is in a position of power representing a magazine that is supposed to promote the LGBT community. The only acceptable move now is for him to resign his position and leave the magazine. Until that day comes, I will not support such a worthless cause. When you attack a member of the LGBT and can not respond with a proper apology, you create distress within the community. We must stand firm as a whole to move forward. This person outing a trans person (note I didn't use his name) is a detriment to our community.

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Sunday, December 18, 2011 1:39 PM

you want to do something good for the community Danny?
how about you start by manning up and growing some balls. you need to accept responsibility for your actions and take the appropriate actions to see that you retain your personal integrity with the whole of the community which you clearly have failed to do.
i work closely with those in the trans community and work hard to make sure that our voice is heard. what you are showing is disgraceful and childish. you have outright damaged the integrity of your magazine and your own personal image within the community in which there is no coming back from with your statements.
it is time you find a new job and leave the writing and editorials to professionals who wont try to derail trans community.
your actions sir are a disgrace and you need to back down and show to all of us that you are MAN enough to accept that you acted unprofessionally. pack up your desk and go home!

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Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:31 PM

I can't believe how many people think it's appropriate to bring up that Lexi has consented to her birth name appearing in the past... In what other contexts would it be appropriate to assume that since something was "ok" 2 years ago, that it can happen now?

I also think that accidentally using someone's old name in conversation is quite different than deliberately using a name in print. A choice was made to publish every word in this "apology", everything said is deliberate.

Apologies don't include the word but; sometimes apologies involve mentioning that the intent wasn't to harm, however whether you agree with Lexi or not, she felt hurt by your use of her old name. The backlash is that there are multitudes of trans people who share her horror; if xtra, the so called voice of queer people, can perpetrate such a malicious and destructive act, then what safe havens and allies remain?

As a stealth trans person in many parts of my life, i would be shattered if someone felt it ok to out me. Whether the intent was harmful or not, doesn't matter, it would place me in an unsafe situation, and place me in fear of trans-bashing.

You want a dialogue? Great! Trans people want to be heard! A good start would be to offer some validity to this very serious concern and offer up a genuine apology- not some publicity stunt.

Oh and for the record, bullying a bully is still a form of bullying. It's never ok. If people responded with kindness instead, think of what would happen! Think of the respect you would have maintained with the trans community had you simply decided to be ethical and respectful. Sounds like you have some repairing to do!


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Sunday, December 18, 2011 4:52 PM

You call this an apology? What a prick!

People like you are the reason why people like me feel the need to distance ourselves from the LGBT community.

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Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:03 PM

lexi tronic's formal statement

leftytgirl.wordpress.com/.../

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Monday, December 19, 2011 4:30 AM

You should apologize. And remove her name from your Facebook. AND stop making assumptions about marginalized folks' stations in life. And look at your own cissexism and transphobia (and the very real power dynamics at play here).

It might also be a good idea to remove yourself from something with this sort of (supposedly) personal history in the future, which seems to be contributing to your bias and lack of clarity.

And, um... just admit that you fucked up and I dunno... maybe say sorry?

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Monday, December 19, 2011 10:47 AM

lets put this in context for you since you want us to keep talking GLENWRIGHT. where is it in the least bit acceptable to do what you are doing right now? you have shown clearly that you have it in your best interests to degrade the hard work of the generations before you to the state of toilet Spackle with your crying and moaning over some past bully who you then treated years later like a second rate lowlife. you fucked the pooch and now you are likely never going to hear the end of it. this may be a gay and lesbian magazine but transpeople are also (guess what?) GAY AND LESBIAN. stop backpedaling and do the right thing already. you suck the life out of the gay rights movement every time you open your face so do us all a favor and shut up.

Ellen ca


Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:17 PM

Hey Brooklyn Betty,

If you like, us "hicks, moose, and rubes" could show you how to get your federal government to legalize same-sex marriage. After all, your country is full of enlightened politicians just waiting to grant equal rights to sexual minorities.

Good luck with your downward spiral into economic and cultural oblivion.

Cordially,

George

George Jukas ca



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