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Friday, April 15, 2011

QuAIA withdraws from Pride Toronto parade

Councillor Georgio Mammoliti says he will not move to defund Pride Toronto next week, as he had previously announced.

The news comes after Queers Against Israeli Apartheid (QuAIA) withdrew from Toronto's annual Pride parade, according to a press release issued April 15. Instead, QuAIA will hold its own event, without Pride Toronto (PT), sometime during Pride Week.

"Last year’s struggle was around censorship and our right to march in our community’s Pride parade,” says QuAIA spokesperson Tim McCaskell in the press release. “With the City report settling that debate, now is the time for us to move beyond the parade to build our community’s response to Israeli apartheid.”

On April 13, PT and QuAIA were exonerated in a city manager's report, which concluded that PT had not broken the city's anti-discrimination policy.

Earlier this week, Giorgio Mammoliti promised to strip the festival of funds. But on April 15, he said that QuAIA had "done the right thing."

"Because of what they've done, you won't see me move a motion to take the funds away," Mammoliti tells Xtra.

With this news, it appears that the festival's city funding is secure for 2011. Last year, PT received $123,807 from the city, plus roughly $300,000 in-kind services like policing and cleanup.

But Mammoliti stopped well short of endorsing PT funding in future years, saying that all programs would be reviewed this year in an effort to find $700 million in savings. Mammoliti's comments play into the tone of QuAIA's press release, which chides Mayor Rob Ford's administration for using QuAIA as an excuse to defund the festival.

“Rob Ford wants to use us as an excuse to cut Pride funding, even though he has always opposed funding the parade, long before we showed up,” the release quotes QuAIA member Elle Flanders as saying. “By holding our Pride events outside of the parade, we are forcing him to make a choice: fund Pride or have your real homophobic, rightwing agenda exposed.”

In an interview with Xtra, Flanders says that Mammoliti will still be looking for ways to defund PT, even though with QuAIA's announcement, he's lost "the pretext" he was using this week.

"As usual, he's talking out of both sides of his mouth," says Flanders.

After the announcement, the Twitterverse lit up with comments, most of them thanking QuAIA for withdrawing. University of Toronto law professor Brenda Cossman called the move "brilliant strategy," while former fab editor (and Xtra contributor) Scott Dagostino characterized it as "a smart move, noble even."

"There's give and take in communities," says Flanders. "We think that the community has been generous to us, and it's time for us to be generous in return. When you're facing rightwing, homophobic governments, you've got to band together."

But for queer activist Ashleigh Ingle, who was active on the Pride file, the move is something of an ominous sign.

"It's a really sad day when the political climate of the city is in such a place that it will force a political organization out of the Pride parade," she says.

Gaybourhood Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam emphasizes that the 2012 budget will still be a tough slog. She's worried about cash for PT and Caribana, HIV/AIDS prevention and community groups.

QuAIA "might have been a convenient excuse, but now that that's been taken off the table, there's no reason not to carry on funding Pride," says Wong-Tam.

Another outspoken oppponent of PT funding during QuAIA's time as a participant, Councillor James Pasternak, says he now supports funding for the festival.

“I don’t have a problem with helping out cultural, civic festivals, whether they’re cultural festivals or parades,” Pasternak told the Toronto Star April 15.

In an interview with the National Post, Mammoliti remains bullish, saying that he "doesn't trust" QuAIA and wants to see a letter from Pride Toronto verifying that QuAIA is out. In his interview with Xtra earlier in the day, he indicated he wanted a letter from QuAIA saying they will not march.

 

 

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Friday, April 15, 2011 10:16 AM

I strongly commend QuAIA's self-sacrificing move in voluntarily withdrawing from the Pride Toronto parade and thus taking away the impetus from The Mayor and some Councillors like Mammoliti to defund Pride. MArching in the parade was not funding and never was as any LGBT group political , religious or social is allowed to march and do so without any city or Pride funds as long as they do not break any laws. But merely marching had become such a lightning rod to so many that withdrawing from the march is a very, very wise move by QuAIA as indeed there are other ways to raise consciousness on this issue outside of a PT march as the QuAIA press release states. Thank you all in QuAIA for making this gutsy move for the good of the greater LGBT community and PT itself!

james dubro ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 10:22 AM

The ball is back in your court, Mr. Ford.

Kim ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 11:42 AM

The Pride Coaltion for Free Speech should still march. And what happens if individual marchers across various contingents in the parade wear their QuAIA t-shirts...?

Shawn ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 11:04 AM

WOW! Here It is folk. True Bullying & Homophobia in the making. Right before our very eyes. I personally am on the fence in regards to Israeli Apartheid. I believe that is where the City Council should be aswell when it is pertaining to this issue. I did'nt even notice the group last year, and i was around every day. Ford and his clan made Apartheid bigger then the Pride Event itself. We have been Manipulated. BULLIES are running this Town!

Mark S Luciani ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 11:29 AM

Yay! I look forward to a hate-free Pride this year (just as they are celebrated everywhere else in the world!) Good riddance to bad rubbish!

William ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 11:28 AM

William, as I understand it, the Toronto city manager's report said QuAIA did not violate anti-discrimination policy and could not find how the term Israeli Apartheid is hate speech. We say it here in Israel all the time and we should know! I am guessing the same would be true for any court decision. Your mayor Rob Ford and other infantile megalomaniacs don't care for law, democracy, or your rights. You may be queer but you don't get what's happening here in Israel. Queers in Israel say "toda!" to QuAIA (thank you!)
Eyal, an Israeli Jewish gay guy who thinks that Toronto is better for QuAIA!

Eyal il


Friday, April 15, 2011 12:21 PM

@ William - you are out to lunch. The term "Israeli Apartheid" is clearly not hate speech. This has just been confirmed by the City Manager. What truly shocks me is the blind allegiance to the state of Israel that will brook no questioning, no debate, no discussion, no criticism - no matter what atrocities are committed by that country. No wonder peace eludes the Middle East.

GaySolomon ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 12:33 PM

Really not sure what I think about this.
I will say however that's it's long past that Pride get back to it's roots, stop being a public corporate event. Does it really need over a hundred trucks/floats and then the hundreds of individual marchers?
It's one of the things I loved about the Dyke March and I'm starting to see that head the same way as the pride parade.

I've started looking at the smaller pride events that happen outside of Toronto lately.

mary ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 1:10 PM

This is terrific news. Certainly queers have a right to protest the policies of the Israeli government but, I do not believe that Pride is the appropriate venue for poisonous Middle East politics. It is also a brilliant move because it will expose Ford and the fordites on council as the homophobes that they are when they still oppose funding.

Don ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 1:23 PM

Good It's about time!!! They never belonged there in the first place and now that they're done using pride to advance their own agenda they're leaveing. What a surprise.

George ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 1:52 PM

I agree that this is very brilliant strategy by QuAIA. I'm not a member of QuAIA, but I agree with their position esp. knowing that the "separateness" for South African apartheid was based on Canada's treatment of aboriginal people on reservations. We know how very wrong that was and continues in systemic ways today. I am tempted to wear a shirt to PRIDE that says Stop Israeli Apartheid on one side and Settle Aboriginal Land claims on the other.

susan ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 3:24 PM

You don't have to use hateSPEECH to be hateFUL.
I'm glad to see Pride refocussed on gay issues, love, tolerance, understanding, togetherness and respect.

William ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 3:46 PM

QuAIA are a bunch of haters. If Israel was half as bad as they claim, they wouldn't have to rely on lies and exaggerations. I've been to Israel and so I know. I've never been to Gaza and judging by the fact that they haven't been killed for being gay, neither has anyone from QuAIA. Wether their motivation is antisemitism or antidemocracy, this hate-filled group does not belong in a celebration of gay rights.

Lee ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 3:40 PM

QuAIA has no place marching in a civic, tax-payer funded event. Thanks for making the right decision QuAIA. Maybe there will be a white supremacist march you can attend somewhere else.

Melissa Cheung ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 4:51 PM

you canadians, (Melissa, William and Lee) can be very hateful yourselves. Lee, you may have been to Israel but you didn't serve in the army like I did and witness all the terrible human rights abuses we Israelis did to Palestinians. I cannot keep silent anymore. Find other soldiers like me who are "breaking the Silence" Not all Israelis are bad or racist, I don't think QuAIA says this -- ever. In fact I hear many of them r Jewish too. In Israel we need to have this conversation about how to change things and groups like QuAIA are speaking for us in the world. We talk about Apartheid in Israel and more and more people are saying these things must change. QuAIA doesn't make me feel hated, so why you William? Lee, I think you should go to Palestine next time you are in Israel. I can take you near there.
Eyal

Eyal il


Friday, April 15, 2011 4:18 PM

QuAIA has already been far more successful than I imagine they ever imagined they could be thanks to the efforts of Gladstone and his ilk to silence them. They're larger and their message has reached many millions more people than they ever could have hoped to achieve on their own if it hadn't been for the smear campaign against them full of lies and distorted reality. Why Gladstone and his ilk thought the LGBT communities would accept censorship at Pride is beyond me, especially considering all the attempts over the years to silence and censor us as queers. QuAIA has their victory already, they've been officially determined not to violate the city's anti-discrimination policy and that they don't use hate speech and are not a hate group and they've spread their message about Israel's policies far and wide gaining many supporters and sympthaizers to their cause. What other human rights group protesting another country's policies at Pride has ever had such success as QuAIA? Many people weren't even aware that there were other groups in Pride protesting against the policies of other countries, which is really quite sad when you think about it, but not QuAIA, thanks to all the efforts to censor/ban them everyone knows about them and their message. One of the morals of this story is that censorship will always fail, especially when looking to the LGBT communities to support it.

Now will the pro-Israeli apartheid marchers still be there this year? Will Kulanu still invite the anti-gay thugs from JDL, whose US chapter is recognized as a terrorist organization by the FBI and an actual hate group (as in the KKK and Stormfront) by the Southern Poverty Law Center, to march with them in Pride?

Rich ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 4:28 PM

@Eyal

More pink-washing

I really doubt you are from Israel when Xtra gives a country option on this website. So I'm going to say I'm from Saudi Arabia and I'm not since this website is blocked from people in the country(I've been there so I know this also being gay is pushed by death) also if you say this is true then why did Richard Goldstone says

"The allegations of intentionality by Israel were based on the deaths of and injuries to civilians in situations where our fact-finding mission had no evidence on which to draw any other reasonable conclusion. While the investigations published by the Israeli military and recognized in the U.N. committee’s report have established the validity of some incidents that we investigated in cases involving individual soldiers, they also indicate that civilians were not intentionally targeted as a matter of policy."-- Richard Goldstone

You can read the rest it has cleared Israel of everything the QuAIA and other Anti Israel groups say about Israel.
www.washingtonpost.com/.../AFg111JC_story.html

Also why would we want to go to Gaza anyway? did you hear the News that Palestinian Groups even killed a ISM activist who supported them Vittorio Arrigoni. Its all over the Israeli media www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/143577
and still blames your country if you are really there.

Wow why would anyone what to go there they even kill yes kill the people who support them.

Ben sa


Friday, April 15, 2011 4:23 PM

When do the protests start to try and get Jewish festivals/organizations to ban/censor any participating group in their events that it isn't fully supportive of all LGBT issues or that actively work with anti-LGBT organizations like the CJC does with McVety and his ilk? Of course that won't happen due to the same lack of support of censorship that protected QuAIA but I admit a small part of me would like to see it considering what some Jewish groups with all of their anti-LGBT views and connections have put Pride through this past year or so because a queer group that dared to criticize Israeli state policy and who wasn't even anti-Jewish or anti-Israel (check their website, they want to see an Israel that respects everyone's human rights not the destruction of Israel as some claim) participated in Pride.

Rich ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 6:49 PM

I don't understand Ben, a Salafist group that is more extreme than Hammas does this and you blame the entire palestinian population. This, even though Hamas itself was trying to free him. The Israeli state kills 1400 palestinians and anyone complaining is not being fair? As for Goldstone, if Israel didn't target civilians, they certainly couldn't care less if they died as it is evidenced by the number of children who died there and in Lebanon. In any case, Goldstone had it really tough, didn't he? He was ostracized by most of his people for daring to say something negative about Israel. Then Israel does "its own investigation" and he changes his tune... the UN has already said that the flip flop by Goldstone does not in any way invalidate their report.

Sean ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 6:24 PM

Who's next? AIDS groups? Anti-racist queers? Feminist queers? Queer human rights groups? Queer refugees? Queer NDPers? Leather Dykes? Great short term strategy maybe. Longterm political strategy? I don't think so. My Pride includes coalition, multi-issue, making the connections. Otherwise it's just a pretty tourist show.

Cassandra ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 10:54 PM

There IS a queer and trans rights movement in Palestine and what it demands FIRST AND FOREMOST is the end of the Israeli occupation and an end to the Apartheid policies and practices. Demanding an end to Israeli Apartheid in Palestine IS the first and foremost step in fighting for queer and trans rights.

Javier ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 10:47 PM

My Pride doesn't include attempts to reproduce foreign ethnic conflicts in Canada under the guise of "inclusiveness."

William ca


Friday, April 15, 2011 11:07 PM

QuAIA are nothing more than dabblers in grievance politics when they aren't tourists in another country's conflict of which they - and so many in the LGBT community - have no understanding whatsoever. I dare you to convince me that QuAIA and their cheerleaders are not ideologues who for reasons a Neo-Nazi could best explain, have a hate-on for Israeli Jews. How blind, stupid, and brainwashed do you have to be to bray on about Israel while Iran hangs gays from cranes? I've seen Pride Parades in Israel and when I see them in Damascus, Riyadh, Tehran, Jakarta, Aden, Amman, Gaza, Khartoum and a hundred other places where *real* oppression exists and gay rights are suspended if not a visit to an execution chamber, I'd urge you to tell QuAIA to go shove their agenda where the sun doesn't shine.

Michael ca


Saturday, April 16, 2011 2:48 AM

So they wanted to show that there are people in the LGBT community who are politically active and care about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. So they wanted to march as a part of the parade. So what's the big deal? Pride parade, as far as I see it, is supposed to represent the diversity of our community. If someone's opinions about Israel are different from the mainstream, it doesn't mean that they shouldn't participate in the Pride.

And this story is pretty alarming, because
the Toronto city administration is still looking for a way to stop the parade from happening, and it is ready to cancel the entire parade only because the Jewish/pro-Israeli community doesn't like one tiny group participating in it.

Dmitri ca


Saturday, April 16, 2011 9:25 AM

I never understood the objection to Israel Apartheid movements. It's a movement decrying the actions of a governments, actions which result in large civilian losses and hardship. It's not anti-Semitic, because it's not against an religion, or those who practise a particular religion. It's not against Israel's right to be a state. It's against policies of a government. If it were any other government at hand, it seems, this issue wouldn't exist. No one would get pissed off if there was a "Movement against Sudanese Apartheid", to object to the actions of the Sudanese government vis-a-vis it's oppressive treatment of some ethnic groups.

Julien ca


Saturday, April 16, 2011 11:47 AM

The fuglies from QuAIA have had their 15 minutes. Time for them to crawl back under their rocks. Someone in that group of idiots must have finally got the message that they weren't making any new friends by destroying Pride, getting it defunded by the city, and making it next to impossible to get corporate sponsors. They piggybacked their message of hate onto Pride for too long, and it it weren't for Pride, no one would notice or care about any of those losers. Good riddance!

Quentin ca


Saturday, April 16, 2011 9:09 PM

Quintin..and others...the true source of the hate speech was revealed on Friday when The Jewish Defence League protested outside of the Pride Offices. In simple terms this is hate based homophobia. A few of us attending with the sole purpose of observing. We were greeted with "look at the Petty homosexuals" and the last words spoken to us were "See you next week faggots" that witha few sprinklings of y\"you are lucky the police are here" I would say that the source of this hate speech is directly linked to the JAL and their messengers, Sue Ann Elvy and Martin Gladstone, who because they are gay have now given the Fords Mamolitis permission to continue the thinly disguised attacks on the LGBT.

Mark ca


Saturday, April 16, 2011 9:33 PM

How the defense vehicles are numbered? The numbering or identification system is quite different from civilian?

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Sunday, April 17, 2011 2:14 PM

Mark - thanks for pointing out precisely why the gay rights movement has absolutely nothing to gain from associating itself with a foreign ethnic conflict.

William ca


Monday, April 18, 2011 1:52 PM

No matter what Ford's intentions are, he has done us a great favour for helping us get that hate group out of our parade.

queero ca



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