Monday, October 18, 2010

Feisty Toronto mayoral debate cut short at The 519

Rob Ford may not have been at the mayoral debate at The 519 Church Street Community Centre Monday night, but that didn't stop the two other candidates or audience members from calling him a coward for not showing up.

Even before the debate got rolling, moderator Mathieu Chantelois called Ford's absence "disappointing."

"He's scared!" someone yelled from the middle of the audience, a standing-room-only crowd numbering around 300, which was largely divided between those wearing green Joe Pantalone shirts or purple George Smitherman shirts.

The debate was cut short by The 519 after Ford told Xtra last week that he could not attend due to "scheduling conflicts," said Matthew Cutler, manager of resource development and communication at The 519.

More time was shaved off the debate when Smitherman announced he too had a previous commitment and would be leaving the debate early. The debate lasted only about 30 minutes in total.

"There was a debate?" said Ward 27 candidate Susan Gapka. "I sat down, then everyone got up and left."

 Many in the crowd were shocked to hear Ford blew off the debate entirely. Ashleigh Gaul, 28, who was seated in the front row, just shook her head.

"That kinda stinks," she said. "I was really interested to hear how he reacts."

Bob Shearer, 65, said he was undecided about which candidate to vote for until the debate.

"When I see that Mr Ford doesn't have enough courage to appear in front of this group, my vote will go to Smitherman," he said. "I made my decision tonight. If Rob Ford can't set aside some time for tonight's debate, that's the end of it for me."

Before going on the attack against Pantalone, Smitherman reminded people about "the elephant in the room," vote-splitting. 

"For queers, wannabe queers and friends of queers, I have always been there," Smitherman said.

Some of the issues discussed included how the candidates will promote new businesses in the queer community, whether they support removing gender-specific questions on application forms, if they support increasing or decreasing funding allocation for community AIDS prevention work and what they plan to do about the growing bedbug problem in the Church and Wellesley area.

Smitherman and Pantalone were most divided on the question of supporting the creation of safe injection sites for drug users.

"I do not support safe injection sites because I am not convinced of its merits," Smitherman said.

Pantalone disagreed.

"So where will you put the safe injection site?" Smitherman asked. Pantalone said, "We'll find a place."

Himy Syed, a mayoral candidate not considered a frontrunner, who took Ford's vacant chair, joined the two candidates halfway through. 

Although he tried, Syed was not allowed to answer questions from the audience.

"I could have even answered from Ford's perspective," he jokingly told Xtra after the debate.

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Monday, October 18, 2010 10:07 PM

It seems that every body wants to hear Ford and not the others. If Ford does not participate every body is disappointed. He seems to be driving the election train. It shows how powerful he is and he is going to win

Sam ca


Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:08 AM

I want to vote for Joe, he is right on most of the issues. George just keeps making it harder for me to vote for him. He blew us off tonight.

Rick Barnes ca


Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:07 AM

What happened to Joe's opening remarks, you just have the end of his opening?

Rick Barnes ca


Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:01 AM

People wanted to hear from Ford at this debate because he'd undoubtedly make a complete ass of himself, again, and not because how "powerful" he might be.

Dan ca


Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:00 AM

Mayoral debate last night underwhelming though Joe got in some good shots and some very progressive positions (e.g supports Vienna Declaration while George sadly does not). 30 minutes is not enough for a good airing of views even with just 2 of the candidates there.

james dubro ca


Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:14 AM

^Rick: That would be my fault. We had some tech difficulties with the livestream, and I wasn't able to record until a few minutes after the event started. My apologies.

Brent Creelman, web editor ca


Tuesday, October 19, 2010 12:17 PM

So, when Slithy couldn't make it to a debate that was o.k. but when Ford can't make it out people's noses are all out of joint? (Bob Shearer, 65, said he was undecided about which candidate to vote for until the debate. "When I see that Mr Ford doesn't have enough courage to appear in front of this group, my vote will go to Smitherman," he said. "I made my decision tonight. If Rob Ford can't set aside some time for tonight's debate, that's the end of it for me.")

Is this how people will vote? Wha "I'm not going to vote for him cause he didn't show up!" (commence tempertantrum). GAWD! PATHETIC!

Jackson ca


Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:18 PM

what i find funny is how the 65 year old man, bob said he made up his mind to not vote for ford because he couldnt make time for the debate but then he decided to vote for smitherman, who also had to leave because he couldnt find time for the debate. what a joke.

amanda ca


Wednesday, October 20, 2010 9:14 AM

What I am seeing in this election campaign, which for Rob Ford has been aggressivly promoted by private hard right wing stations here all year is a promoter for Automobile Corperations, a member of the privatize everything right wing group, and a reasonable promoter of issues from the left. The Harper, Harris formula of saying very little specific and to demonize on these occasions, when he shows up all members of the city council who disagree with Rob Ford or GM or whoever or whatever drives the agenda of Ford is to the people of Toronto a dangerous development. With an obvious lack of interest in the poor and disabled Ford is promoting an agenda of disgraceful neglect of the people of Toronto. Crime always increases when people are hungry. Our standard of treatment of the poor are now so illegal in an international context that if it were possible I would recommend that poor people seek asylum from this country on the basis that there lives are in danger from corperate employees in this case Rob Ford most clearly. The promotion of increased lung cancer rates that the Rob Ford campaign is promoting is of course a result of the emphasise on the increased use of gas vehicles which are necessary in a community where transit is suppressed. Ford will work hard to keep as many automobiles running in the city as possible. Wake up people. Thats the identical policy of Mike Harris who cancelled at great cost any subway constuction that was in the works. These are car cancer corperate privatizers who will take your property and make many people very ill.

Glenn ca


Friday, October 22, 2010 7:41 AM

Rob Ford wouldn't come to our forum. Two people did, one left early. At least Rob Ford was straight about not wanting to be here.

The test - If Rob Ford had attended the LGBT forum, would George have left early or do you think he could have had the Montreal MP that came to endorse him wait until the debate finished.

Smitherman saw no need to talk or listen to us, presumably because he knows what we all want or to put it kindly, he brushed us off as a nuisance.

Rick Barnes ca



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